Recruiting 2022 Recruiting Thread: Evers and CJ Smith Decommit

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Do not make the mistake of erasing how Napier's going to react to losing any game =heis going to be angry about it. He is going to ruminate fiercely over the week on it. And make his staff do that also, focusing on conveying corrections to players. Won't such a details-man use the film room like never before.? {there's a catch-phrase, like never before.} Let it unfold.
 

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I fear our posters may not initially embrace CBN's recruiting. His repeated emphasis on evaluation suggests to me that his evaluation may frequently disagree with the recruiting services evaluation so beloved by donk and otbrrs.
 

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theory = choplogic that cuts off the rotten parts of the truth
 

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I fear our posters may not initially embrace CBN's recruiting. His repeated emphasis on evaluation suggests to me that his evaluation may frequently disagree with the recruiting services evaluation so beloved by donk and otbrrs.
Exactly I think he knows what works with his system and he goes and gets what he knows will develop into talent to win. He might have drafted 3 stars before but at the end of their college careers they get drafted to play in the NFL
 

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First time in a long time I have hope.
Billy just seems like he has his chit together of course proof is in the pudding but I believe we have something special here.
 

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Here's a decently written article about Napier's burn-it-down strategy and what's transpired so far:

The Rebuild: Billy Napier begins to surgically repair Gators program, and build his army - In All Kinds Of Weather


This is a good read as to what BN is doing. Long, but good.

"Among the host of analysts that Billy Napier has brought onboard so far include Ryan O’Hara (QB), Jamar Chaney (LB) and Joe Hamilton (general personnel analyst on defense). Also joining the Billy Napier staff “army” are Ashour Peera and Kyle Kazakevicius in yet-to-be-announced roles, and Andrew Burkett as the Director of Research & Evaluation.




And this doesn’t even begin to put a dent into the new assistant coaching staff. Billy Napier has hinted that he plans to add between about 40-50 analysts to his Florida staff. For perspective, Nick Saban- who more or less invented the analyst role, at least in the form it exists today- has about a dozen analysts on his staff in a given year, occasionally reaching the mid-teens. Napier already dwarfed that number with his staff at Louisiana. Now he plans to top the numbers of his own norm-shatteringly large staff at UL at Florida, and he’s certainly off to a good start."
 

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I fear our posters may not initially embrace CBN's recruiting. His repeated emphasis on evaluation suggests to me that his evaluation may frequently disagree with the recruiting services evaluation so beloved by donk and otbrrs.

It’s not just Donk, or myself, or a handful of others that highly value the recruiting services and their equally proven evaluations. It’s literally every team that has won a NC over the past few decades. Napier said as much in his opener, referencing the recruiting rankings of Alabama and uga and the fact that they played for the SEC the night before.
So to shift now into this “stars don’t matter” conversation is ridiculous.

I’ll repeat what I said prior to BN’s hiring, and again voiced last week. My concern is that we might be once again having to stomach an approach that is contrary to conventional wisdom out of “trust”. I say maybe, because it’s obviously way too early to say anything definitive. But we’ve gone from a complete identity change in ‘11, to a trust that somehow a coach is so good he can win with 2-3*’s in ‘15, to we don’t need to recruit because we can outscheme everyone in 2018, to now this. I don’t know why we have to complicate things. We know what works. So it’s frustrating to see and hear an approach that by his own admission may not make much sense at times and may take some patience. I don’t get why we can’t just be normal and do what UF does best.

Spurrier showed it can be done, as did Meyer. Yes they inherited better situations, but they also held on to guys like Baker, Haupt and Murphy who were marginal players that committed to the previous staff and were open to suitors after the change. It would’ve been easy to dismiss them. He didn’t. And much of the rest of that class were players that we’d targeted all year with Zook. He simply landed them and built off of it. Saban’s 2007 class was similar. Those guys know how to evaluate too, and both of them would’ve taken Gibson, Lightsey and probably Evers in their transition class, just from a perception standpoint.

I’m hopeful for Wednesday and beyond, and will again say that I want to see Napier kill it here for a long time. Really like a lot of what he brings to the table. But if we fumble things the rest of the way, I’m also not blindly falling into line and saying everything is fine because “we have a better idea” as former commits are snatched up by teams that either have are in the playoff this year or have been recently.
 

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We'll see how it all works out on Wednesday.

I have no problem with Napier PURGING some of these recruits. We all complained that Mullantham didn't recruit, so we can actually sit back and say, WDWHA!
 

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Like I've said,...we have needed to do something differently. Because, what we've been doing with our past loser coaches did not accomplish very much except for spending a lot of money and have us wandering in the football wilderness. If Napier's approach seems different, I'm ok with that because he can actually show us where it's been successful. Wtf did some the the past coaches have to show us? They were friggin making it up as they go and we see where that got us. Give the man time, he seems to actually know what he's doing. Hope is a terrible thing to give the hopeless if you can't deliver, so we'll have no trouble tarring and feathering him if he proves to be just another schmuck.
 

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The biggest indicator of how this recruiting class will be if kids that were committed to other schools we offer sign early to us or don't sign at all anywhere shows we got them thinking about us and that's a positive sign
 

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Like I've said,...we have needed to do something differently. Because, what we've been doing with our past loser coaches did not accomplish very much except for spending a lot of money and have us wandering in the football wilderness. If Napier's approach seems different, I'm ok with that because he can actually show us where it's been successful. Wtf did some the the past coaches have to show us? They were friggin making it up as they go and we see where that got us. Give the man time, he seems to actually know what he's doing. Hope is a terrible thing to give the hopeless if you can't deliver, so we'll have no trouble tarring and feathering him if he proves to be just another schmuck.

I’m ok with giving a new approach a whirl if we’re stuck on a deserted island and trying to build a boat out of coconuts. But we’re not. We have the materials and the blueprints of exactly what to do. And to a slightly lesser degree what not to do. While I agree that what we’ve been doing hasn’t worked, as I’ve said, they also decided on a strategy that involves dismissing those blueprints and/or materials, insisting that their way would work. Now, don’t get me wrong, Napier’s strategy isn’t some lazy approach like that of the previous two and is much more noble in its nature. But it’s still a risky strategy that I don’t feel is necessary.
 

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It is risky.
But, if nothing changes, nothing changes. And, if you always do what you always did you always get what you always got.
 

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But it’s still a risky strategy that I don’t feel is necessary.
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