Recruiting 2019 NSD: 4* DE Khris Bogle and 4* CB Elam signs

[-THE DUDE-]

Just catching up on all of this.... nice pissing contest going on!!

The Charles Moore situation is unbelievable. Thank GOD we didn't "land" him. Wow! I said this earlier, but I regret the staff not pushing harder for Dorlus. I think we'll be fine w/ next year's haul, I just hope a couple of those 2020 kids are ready to play in 2020 - at least providing a few quality snaps per game.

Chip Kelly is a disaster out there. Curious how long he lasts there.

Good job by Mullen and staff, and the 2020 class is off to a great start.

From what I understand there were UF writers with Dorlus commitment/signed articles already done and ready to submit the night before ESD...then signs with Oregon. I think our staff pushed hard. There was either something shady going on or he decided he didn’t want to compete in the SEC.

 

[ATXGator]

Just a lot of this kinda stuff from yesterday. So many seem so unsatisfied as if we should've expected more with this class. My point stands. We've been a boring and bad football team since these recruits were in elementary school. Mullen is finding a way to make Florida football fun and energizing again.

Just wish people could celebrate how far we've come in such a short time and then be expectantly hopeful for future classes... But alas! We're sports fans which in and of itself, makes us fanatical ,which lends itself to the inability to look at things analytically or logically... I get it. I'm that way often too...

As I said in my original post... I am Happy with this class, just not thrilled. I'm not jumping up and down, but I am definitely satisfied, but that doesn't mean we don't need to get better. This class is good for us because of where we are, but it is not OK to continue to have classes like this.

 

[BMF]

From what I understand there were UF writers with Dorlus commitment/signed articles already done and ready to submit the night before ESD...then signs with Oregon. I think our staff pushed hard. There was either something shady going on or he decided he didn’t want to compete in the SEC.

Yeah, it seemed like it was a done deal. I expressed my displeasure with it, as there were 4 or 5 other higher rated kids we were in on....and it seemed the staff backed off (or he did, who knows?). Hindsight being 20/20, I think we all wish he had signed. If he had delayed signing early he would have been one of the most sought after DL's remaining. I think he transfers from Oregon within two years. He would have been a perfect Plan B for us, as he's a much better Luke Ancrum type.

 

[-THE DUDE-]

Yeah, it seemed like it was a done deal. I expressed my displeasure with it, as there were 4 or 5 other higher rated kids we were in on....and it seemed the staff backed off (or he did, who knows?). Hindsight being 20/20, I think we all wish he had signed. If he had delayed signing early he would have been one of the most sought after DL's remaining. I think he transfers from Oregon within two years. He would have been a perfect Plan B for us, as he's a much better Luke Ancrum type.

I wanted him for sure...not elite but a couple years with Savage he could be quality depth. But...if he chose Oregon because he didn’t want to compete in the SEC then I’m glad he didn’t

 

[T REX]

As I said in my original post... I am Happy with this class, just not thrilled. I'm not jumping up and down, but I am definitely satisfied, but that doesn't mean we don't need to get better. This class is good for us because of where we are, but it is not OK to continue to have classes like this.

There's actually a set of posters...I'll call them Pumper Dumpers...if you aren't doing cartwheels and popping champagne for every little thing they have a breakdown and make negative comments. It's not enough to be happy or satisfied...you have to be beyond that.

Me: I'm happy
pumper dumper: But you're not happy enough

 

[Tay Bang]

There's actually a set of posters...I'll call them Pumper Dumpers...if you aren't doing cartwheels and popping champagne for every little thing they have a breakdown and make negative comments. It's not enough to be happy or satisfied...you have to be beyond that.

There's actually a set of posters...I'll call them the Founders, who are dumper's dumpers. If you aren't bitching and moaning about every aspect of UF athletics, they have a breakdown and make negative comments (and facepalms) and dislikes until the non-Founders go away. It's not enough to be miserable...you have to be beyond that.

 

[T REX]

He's bringing in 1/3 of the 3*'s that Mac did... That's drastic improvement.

I am happy. I think Mullen had a great year overall. We brought in ten 3 stars...I'm fuzzy on your math. I don't remember Mac bringing in 30 three stars. We are headed in the right direction though. That's the most important thing.

 

[Alagator]

Do you think we win on the field titles without elite talent? Show me the last team that did that?

To answer your question:

2016 Clemson Rivals team recruiting ranking average was: 11.25 (cracked the top ten ONLY once and that was a top 5...the other three classes all outside the top 10) There rankings were as follows: 14, 14, 13, 4 (The lone top 5 class were freshman that year) Not sure how many freshman contributed, but the majority of the contributors to that championship team ranked on average as 13.6.

2018 Clemson Rivals team recruiting ranking was: 10 The rankings were 4, 6, 22, 8 (The same top 5 class (now seniors so we assume major contributors), two top 10 classes, and one class outside the top 20).

11.5 ranked class, and 10th ranked classes (on average per Rivals) beat the perennial #1 ranked classes of Alabama twice in three years.

Point is: Common denominator was difference maker at QB and solid coaching. With good coaching and a stud QB (who we hope we have in EJ!), it can be done with Top 10 classes. NOW... I fully expect our classes to start edging into Top 5 beginning next year. So this year was a pretty good start to our climb back to the top of the mountain... assuming our coaching is on task. Mullen appears up to it and also it appears he's upgrading our assistant coaching as well....

 

[T REX]

There's actually a set of posters...I'll call them the Founders, who are dumper's dumpers. If you aren't *****ing and moaning about every aspect of UF athletics, they have a breakdown and make negative comments (and facepalms) and dislikes until the non-Founders go away. It's not enough to be miserable...you have to be beyond that.

Not sure if you are insinuating me or not but I am happy about about Mullen and the direction of our program. It's a good class and next year should be our "special" class. If you think people are negative right now you're probably as clueless as you sound. And looking back...we nailed it on both Chump and Butters. A big fat I told you so.

 

[Sec14Gator]

THIS is why people say Gator fans are entitled

Nah, THIS is why people say (and are correct) that Gator fans are entitled:

So many seem so unsatisfied

No one is upset with this class or "so unsatisfied". We're bytching at each other over the degrees of excitement and level of satisfaction or complacency. As Saban has showed the SEC, being satisfied is not the path to the above greatness, which took him until this year to match our SEC Championship game appearances and go ahead in wins (even after the run Bama has been on).

All I've seen on here are people, who are happy, saying that moving forward this class will not be good enough.

Most of those posters are also acknowledging the path we appear on for 2020-2021.

 

[T REX]

To answer your question:

2016 Clemson Rivals team recruiting ranking average was: 11.25 (cracked the top ten ONLY once and that was a top 5...the other three classes all outside the top 10) There rankings were as follows: 14, 14, 13, 4 (The lone top 5 class were freshman that year) Not sure how many freshman contributed, but the majority of the contributors to that championship team ranked on average as 13.6.

2018 Clemson Rivals team recruiting ranking was: 10 The rankings were 4, 6, 22, 8 (The same top 5 class (now seniors so we assume major contributors), two top 10 classes, and one class outside the top 20).

11.5 ranked class, and 10th ranked classes (on average per Rivals) beat the perennial #1 ranked classes of Alabama twice in three years.

Point is: Common denominator was difference maker at QB and solid coaching. With good coaching and a stud QB (who we hope we have in EJ!), it can be done with Top 10 classes. NOW... I fully expect our classes to start edging into Top 5 beginning next year. So this year was a pretty good start to our climb back to the top of the mountain... assuming our coaching is on task. Mullen appears up to it and also it appears he's upgrading our assistant coaching as well....

Stud QB? Watson and Lawrence were both number the 1 QB and both 5 stars. EJ wasn't near either of those guys coming out of high school. Can't we just be happy with the track we're on. Do you have to compare us to Clemson? I mean, we're no where near them. I sit here...happy with our trajectory and I see whacked out posts that are seriously going off the deep end.

Pumper dumper.

 

[T REX]

Nah, THIS is why people say (and are correct) that Gator fans are entitled:

No one is upset with this class or "so unsatisfied". We're bytching at each other over the degrees of excitement and level of satisfaction or complacency. As Saban has showed the SEC, being satisfied is not the path to the above greatness, which took him until this year to match our SEC Championship game appearances and go ahead in wins (even after the run Bama has been on).

All I've seen on here are people, who are happy, saying that moving forward this class will not be good enough.

Most of those posters are also acknowledging the path we appear on for 2020-2021.

Pumper dumpers. Posters that are upset you're not as happy as them. Whack a doodles. This is the happiest I've ever seen this board. For some, it's not enough.

 

[SaltyGator]

You sayin' he didn't even get the PBJ's right?

I have really have no idea but he failed at everything else, I imagine he failed at that too.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

One thing everyone particularly our astrologist should understand the day after signing day is that each player who signed with UF is now a Gator. They are not two stars or four stars, they are Gators. They now get to compete to get on the field.

Sadly many won't get on the field. And in some ways even sadder each of us will immediately turn our backs on them and focus on UF getting someone better than each of them via transfer or in the next class.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Ala is easily the angriest pumper we have.

 

[T REX]

Ala is easily the angriest pumper we have.

Angry Pumper? I like that better than Pumper Dumper.

 

[alcoholica]

You guys remember when Mac was complacent and acted like winning the East was a huge accomplishment. That’s how a bunch of you sound now.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

2018 Clemson Rivals team recruiting ranking was: 10 The rankings were 4, 6, 22, 8 (The same top 5 class (now seniors so we assume major contributors), two top 10 classes, and one class outside the top 20).
....

Well, Im not to quibble with your math but this is certainly one of those times when statistical terms like mean and medium would serve well. That is they had three classes that were top 10 and one outlier (probably when they were full). Tonsay they averaged 10 when they had three top classes and two elite ones doesnt quite tell the whole truth, does it?

I can also show you, somewhere a comparison regarding 5 stars and 5 star and high 4 stars) showing that Clemson has been top 3-5 rosters for a long time.

That kind of stuff matters.

If we have a #4 and a #6 class to follow this #9, Im sure everyone will be happy, particularly if our team quickly fills up with a Clemson- sized helping of gamechanging five stars. (Our five stars seem to have been anything but gamechanging lately.)

Clemson is reasonably well-coached and extraordinarily prepared. They have a giant coaching staff that rivals Bammers with literally hundreds in the bowels of the building cutting film and grading and doing game prep. It matters, too.

Moreover, Clemson, frankly, can get away with slightly less depth, as they are in a two team conference and the second team is a dumpster fire.

We dont have several of these luxuries.

 

[Tay Bang]

Not sure if you are insinuating me or not but I am happy about about Mullen and the direction of our program. It's a good class and next year should be our "special" class. If you think people are negative right now you're probably as clueless as you sound. And looking back...we nailed it on both Chump and Butters. A big fat I told you so.

That's the beauty of being a dumper. You are "right" when things don't work out, which is most of the time as, for example, only one team can win an SEC championship every year. When things work out, the dumpers are "happy and pleased". It's a no lose situation. Sit back and snipe at the pumpers. The easy way. The lazy way. .

 

[T REX]

That's the beauty of being a dumper. You are "right" when things don't work out, which is most of the time as, for example, only one team can win an SEC championship every year. When things work out, the dumpers are "happy and pleased". It's a no lose situation. Sit back and snipe at the pumpers. The easy way. The lazy way. .

I'm sorry I responded. You're right. I was lazy. It was awesome being a pariah and hated on here. Lazy. Yup. You'd think going with the grain and just floating along with everyone else on the LAZY river would be "lazy" instead of being accused that you are a serial killer. Yeah, that sounds lazy.

Clueless.