It's time to officially fire up the head coaching search. Who you got?

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Which gets you invited to the Citrus Bowl.......again. While the two teams we lost to are are pushing for a playoff spot. Not sure how many more meaningless Novembers I can endure before I move on and just start playing golf on Saturday's in the fall.
 

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Which gets you invited to the Citrus Bowl.......again. While the two teams we lost to are are pushing for a playoff spot. Not sure how many more meaningless Novembers I can endure before I move on and just start playing golf on Saturday's in the fall.

But while I understand your point, you’re in essence making the one I’ve stated over and over. If this is 2011, we’re all fine with that. If we’re honest, we’re not mad at 2018-2019. We’re mad at 2010-2017. That wasn’t going to change under anyone’s watch. No one likes to lose, and I was furious Saturday. But you can’t speed things up. If you want to scrap it with a 17-5 coach and start again, I’m fine with that. But he’s also not going to come in and fix things instantly. It’s not happening. We lost a decade. How many teams just turn on a dime after that and dominate?

If we win out, and lose 3 games next year, Mullen will have the same amount of losses as Spurrier did through his first three seasons. And he’s been on record many times talking about that ‘90 team he inherited and how much it helped. You really think Mullen would say the same about our current squad, or last years? Acting as if what he’s done is nothing is ridiculous.

Again, I get the frustration. But it should be about much of what preceded Mullen more so than what we’ve seen since.
 
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But while I understand your point, you’re in essence making the one I’ve stated over and over. If this is 2011, we’re all fine with that. If we’re honest, we’re not mad at 2018-2019. We’re mad at 2010-2017. That wasn’t going to change under anyone’s watch. No one likes to lose, and I was furious Saturday. But you can’t speed things up. If you want to scrap it with a 17-5 coach and start again, I’m fine with that. But he’s also not going to come in and fix things instantly. It’s not happening. We lost a decade. How many teams just turn on a dime after that and dominate?

If we win out, and lose 3 games next year, Mullen will have the same amount of losses as Spurrier did through his first three seasons. And he’s been on record many times talking about that ‘90 team he inherited and how much it helped. You really think Mullen would say the same about our current squad, or last years? Acting as if what he’s done is nothing is ridiculous.

Again, I get the frustration. But it should be about much of what preceded Mullen more so than what we’ve seen since.
@soflagator just stop. Too reasonable. Destined to fail.
 

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But while I understand your point, you’re in essence making the one I’ve stated over and over. If this is 2011, we’re all fine. We’re not mad at 2018-2019. We’re mad at 2010-2017. That wasn’t going to change under anyone’s watch. No one likes to lose, and I was furious Saturday. But you can’t speed things up. If you want to scrap it with a 17-5 coach and start again, I’m fine with that. But he’s also not going to come in and fix things instantly. It’s not happening. We lost a decade. How many teams just turn on a dime after that and dominate?

If we win out, and lose 3 games next year, Mullen will have the same amount of losses as Spurrier did through his first three seasons. And he’s been on record many times talking about that ‘90 team he inherited and how much it helped. You really think Mullen would say the same about our current squad, or last years? Acting as if what he’s done is nothing is ridiculous.

Again, I get the frustration. But it should be about much of what preceded Mullen more so than what we’ve seen since.
I get your point, but the Spurrier analogy doesn't hold water. Steve won the SEC in his first two seasons and then had a third year swoon with a young but talented team (two true freshman tackles that were stalwarts for years, but green in year 1). I get that this isn't all on Mullen, but the fatigue is real. I'm not a casual fan. I either care or I don't. I don't need to just be entertained for the day. There are plenty of things I can do to fill my Saturdays. For 35+ years I've dedicated by Saturday's in the fall to my gators. If they really don't care about winning anymore, I'm beginning to wonder why I should care anymore too.
 

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But while I understand your point, you’re in essence making the one I’ve stated over and over. If this is 2011, we’re all fine with that. If we’re honest, we’re not mad at 2018-2019. We’re mad at 2010-2017. That wasn’t going to change under anyone’s watch. No one likes to lose, and I was furious Saturday. But you can’t speed things up. If you want to scrap it with a 17-5 coach and start again, I’m fine with that. But he’s also not going to come in and fix things instantly. It’s not happening. We lost a decade. How many teams just turn on a dime after that and dominate?

If we win out, and lose 3 games next year, Mullen will have the same amount of losses as Spurrier did through his first three seasons. And he’s been on record many times talking about that ‘90 team he inherited and how much it helped. You really think Mullen would say the same about our current squad, or last years? Acting as if what he’s done is nothing is ridiculous.

Again, I get the frustration. But it should be about much of what preceded Mullen more so than what we’ve seen since.
Too logical. STFU Captian Spock.
 

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I get your point, but the Spurrier analogy doesn't hold water. Steve won the SEC in his first two seasons and then had a third year swoon with a young but talented team (two true freshman tackles that were stalwarts for years, but green in year 1). I get that this isn't all on Mullen, but the fatigue is real. I'm not a casual fan. I either care or I don't. I don't need to just be entertained for the day. There are plenty of things I can do to fill my Saturdays. For 35+ years I've dedicated by Saturday's in the fall to my gators. If they really don't care about winning anymore, I'm beginning to wonder why I should care anymore too.

I feel your pain. I just don’t know that it’s as much about not caring as it is making some major mistakes and paying quite a price for it.

And to your point about winning the SEC, ‘91 was a great season and team. But assuming your words were meant to imply he won it both his first seasons, I can assure you if Mullen had lost a game 45-3 to an SEC team and someone here claimed we “won” the conference, there are a select group that would douse that with water before the post even went live. Again, maybe that’s not what you meant. But 1990 was very similar to ‘18.

In any event, Spurrier like most, rarely best teams that had a decided talent advantage(fsu, Neb, miami), routinely lost to teams with comparable talent (Syracuse, ND, 4 times to ut, 3 times to Aub) and even had those moments where he just lost games against inferior opponents(MisSt twice, Mich St, Lsu’97).

He’s considered the best ever and as I said, he has openly talked about that ‘90 team being great. Outside of a few receivers, one Tackle and a DB, who would ever consider our ‘18 roster to be great?

The SEC also didn’t have a team playing for the NC in either of those first two seasons. The landscape has changed. Starting points are very different.
 
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@soflagator had a great point the other day. If last season was 2011, is anyone really upset? Anyone upset with this year? Probably some frustration but we’re all generally happy. The angst says more about 2011-2017 than it does about what CDM has done so far. He may not be the long term solution but he’s the best we were gonna do in 2017 and if he helps bring credibility back to the brand, fantastic. Let’s be real - Chump and Mac with Foley made UF an embarrassment.
 

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Which gets you invited to the Citrus Bowl.......again. While the two teams we lost to are are pushing for a playoff spot. Not sure how many more meaningless Novembers I can endure before I move on and just start playing golf on Saturday's in the fall.
Why wait??
 

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I mean... that’s like... your opinion man.

And maybe you’re right - I don’t doubt you would be dissatisfied but I doubt you represent the majority here. I think you could come around to Mullen if the results were more to your liking but you’ve admitted many times your starting point was negative (in this scenario, you wouldn’t have much MSU results to look at).
 

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I get your point, but the Spurrier analogy doesn't hold water. Steve won the SEC in his first two seasons and then had a third year swoon with a young but talented team (two true freshman tackles that were stalwarts for years, but green in year 1). I get that this isn't all on Mullen, but the fatigue is real. I'm not a casual fan. I either care or I don't. I don't need to just be entertained for the day. There are plenty of things I can do to fill my Saturdays. For 35+ years I've dedicated by Saturday's in the fall to my gators. If they really don't care about winning anymore, I'm beginning to wonder why I should care anymore too.
This.
 

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And maybe you’re right - I don’t doubt you would be dissatisfied but I doubt you represent the majority here.
Majority of what? The majority of people who havent also quit due to the Lost Decades? We are the 5-10% that is left.
 

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