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Color me NOT surprised. Thank the good whatever that I left prior to the paper straw BS.
UF's Football Facilities - Finally begins (on lacrosse)
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Color me NOT surprised. Thank the good whatever that I left prior to the paper straw BS.
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That’s exactly what you’re saying. If the boosters cared like you think they do, they would be livid with how their money has been spent. Livid, rich people do not keep tossing money into a black hole that makes them angry. I believe they care more about naming rights than anything. I’m also saying there are many, not all, who enjoy winning in many sports and are not pushing for a football arms race.You think they REALLY want to spend top 3 money and get nothing in return.
- Jun 9, 2014
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OK... ok..... I hope youre wrong.
Sadly, I agree it is clearly a problem that they havent cared ENOUGH about winning or ensuring their money isn't wasted. Im sure many just bought into Mushchump/McElstain/Mullinz disasters "are building championships" fever. However, they did finally force Fooley to "retire" (but not leave the building). That's a start.
I believe the patience with Mullinz getting facefkked by Ugly and being a laughing stock on the recruiting trail will run out quickly.
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Cared enough is probably a fair compromise. I think they probably value football more than the other sports but not to the level we do on this site. Which makes me wonder how valid the last sentence is. UGA losses will not fly long term but recruiting? I doubt they care enough about that. In my experience, rich people believe they pay people to do certain jobs and expect results - they might micromanage but I doubt it is down at the head coach level. I am guessing they micromanage at the AD level, if they do.
Now, I do not think AD’s are powerless. I just follow the money and generally live by the rule of thumb that those who control it have the most power. The AD is nothing without their money. Or their power.
- Jun 9, 2014
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That is the thing. The booster money doesnt matter as much these days because of conference and TV money.
in 1990 this wasn't the case.
in 1990 this wasn't the case.
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If your argument is that booster influence is less than it was in 1990, I am totally on board and have missed that throughout this discussion. I do not remember it coming up though...
https://www.fa.ufl.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2018_University_Athletic_Assoc_Audited_FS.pdf
Not the most current but first to pop on google for me. Booster contributions are less than SEC/NCAA money but still significant (page 25). $37M out of $149M is a lot of influence. $45M is definitely more and gives the AD some serious power. Ticket sales also account for $32M of that which should somewhat act as a balance to that. With respect to capital projects - 36% comes from “private contributions” (i.e. donations). You do not think those private contributors have a good amount of influence into how their money is spent? Especially considering that the rest is from bonds and operating revenue?
- Jun 9, 2014
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Maybe. Or not. You really think there is an invisible cadre of alums out there demanding we have the worst football facilities in the the conference but the best baseball and softball facilities?
I think they just don't know. And our cadre of sycophants in the press havent made a peep for a decade and a half. We had people just a few months ago on here amongst the most fanatical arguing that we didn't have a facilities problem.
Or a support staff problem.
Or a recruiting staff problem.
I hope youre wrong and the UAA aren't happy to accept being 2nd to 4th in the division forever.
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They just don’t know? Come on man. What don’t they know? If football was their priority, they would assuredly know that their private contributions were not going to football over the last three decades since nothing had been built. All they would have to do is swing by GC and they would get their fill of all the football program deficits with respect to our peers.And don’t throw out BS you know is not true. No, I do not think boosters are demanding slumlording our football program while creating Taj Mahals for non-revenue sports. I think they care about getting their name on something and funding a department that stays out of the headlines/consistently produces an overall top product (which - and this totally an opinion - is why I believe the manager’s discussion narrative spent two whole pages on how we rank in various all sports rankings).
- Jun 9, 2014
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They get the quick tour, shown Heavener and move on.
PLENTY of people seemed to think we were JUST FINE. Several here still think we are.
Yes, I agree some are just looking to get their name on something. Ive seen it at another school where the football facility and cancer facility have the names of people who no doubt don't know how many points there are on a football.
Again, I hope your wrong or we will never leave the lost decades.
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that’s my entire point! Boosters, etc that wield the power think we’re fine! They’re not upset with how their money is spent. If they were, they’d tighten the purse strings and force change. AD may be more powerful today than 90 but he’s still at the mercy of the boosters and president.I mean... I hope I’m wrong too because it’s a lot easier to fix personnel issues than revenue control issues. Unfortunately, actions speak louder than words - look at Clemson, Bama, and UGA. Their boosters are all in on football and shell out tons of cash. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that they get better stuff more often.
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It will just keep dying then. Revenue is flat or decreasing while everyone else rises.
AD's office doesn't care bc they still get their 350k-1 mil salaries.
AD's office doesn't care bc they still get their 350k-1 mil salaries.
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I suspect only the very large dollar boosters have much influence, a few thousand dollars probably has little to none. Now they might listen, but being influenced by small donors opinions is a stretch to me.
- Jun 9, 2014
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Hugh found a hot chick in booty pants and a tight tshirt even at Liberty?
Really, Im not surprised.
What conference are they in now? That's really the level of football we should be playing. Something that's within reach for us so we can compete with the others in the conference.
Harvard is Div 1AA after all.
Really, Im not surprised.
What conference are they in now? That's really the level of football we should be playing. Something that's within reach for us so we can compete with the others in the conference.
Harvard is Div 1AA after all.
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Oh, I know.... I just really f'n hate Georgia! Just putting that out there. ;)
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It clearly says it's not happening.
The baseball stadium happened, the new operation center for the maintenance guys happened but the stand alone will be at a standstill once the site is cleared and a power pole is set up. SMDH, I'm so sick of this shjt. We need more money because we spent it all on money sucking non revenue generating bullshjt.
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WTF are you talking about???? They’re demolishing McKethan, clearing the debris, setting up utilities & laying the foundation. That’s a normal construction initial phase. It also says the funds are in place.
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No, it says next phase TBD what do you think that means. It damn sure doesn't mean a full go.
