Recruiting 2022 Recruiting Thread: Evers and CJ Smith Decommit

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I certainly get that but the way they all mention Mullen and BG doesn’t sit right with me. Are the decommits from OU, LSU and ND mentioning the old coaches and staff in their announcements? I honestly don’t know. Anyway, hate to lose anyone but if they aren’t bought in with the new staff it’s better not to waste a scholly on them now, only to lose them in the Portal later..

Uh...muLLLLLLen and his garbage staff got fired while Riley and Kelly snuck out in the middle of the night might have a little bit to do with why they aint thanking them.
 

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Spurrier and Myer inherited some pretty talented teams. Any coach would have been glad to inherit such teams. I thought Mullen inherited depleted roster after Butters, but after watching our team this year, I have to believe he one upped Butters.

And I don't buy the assertion that he is okay with losing. That one of those negativity/extrapolations/rush to judgement things that Ox was talking about. Napier wants to win as much as anybody. Napier knows he's not winning the SEC in 2022. So why create personnel and culture issues in the future that may impact your ability to win 2023+?

It's okay to be critical of him, but to go all negative and imply that he doesn't care about winning, hyperbole.

obviously he wants to win. But he is showing by his actions that he is OK losing in the short term to accomplish his long-term goals. My point is both of those things can exist and we’ve seen it. Yes, Spurrier and Meyer both inherited better teams. But they also played the bad they were dealt and made the most of it. With some contributions from a freshman or two, there’s no reason we can’t be a good team next year. There is talent there and there is/was talent in this class. He’s letting it slip through his fingers, knowing it will bite him. A great example would be Dee Webb. Meyer hated Dee Webb. You could see it. He represented everything Meyer hated in his attitude, his sloppy play, etc. But Meyer also knew that he was one play away from having converted WR Reggie Lewis at corner. So he stomached him in 2005 until he could get replacements because he wasn’t willing to lose in the process. That’s someone who not only loves winning but hates the idea of losing. That’s my point.

And back to Gibson, even if you felt he wasn’t your perfect fit, you have to know that there’s a real chance you’ll have to face this kid, a Top50 player if you don’t land him. So when Meyer recruited Bo Williams out of FtL, who didn’t fit our scheme at all, it was to keep him away from fsu. And when we took Fayson, despite having Tebow at QB and a better version of him in Harvin, it was the same thing.

I respect your take, and admit I may be hyperbolic to some degree, but wait until JG catches his first TD against us. I can guarantee you I’ll have company.
 

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Is that your suspicion, or ... ? It seems classless to tell a long time highly rated commit that he would not be welcomed or allowed to join the class. Why not just say "there will be two QBs and you can be one of them.. we welcome you". If it doesn't work out he transfers.
Yes, nothing more than just my take on it. And i dont care how he was rated. What I KNOW is that every QB mullen wants ends up sucking cawk. Mullen wanted Evers. That's all I need to know.
 

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Any chance he's thinking he has enough QBs and WRs already and needs to focus on linemen and RBs? Just throwing the question out there as I don't really follow recruiting. Also, any chance he has no problem playing freshmen?

Even if he does think that, it's not like this class was anywhere near full.
 

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You may be correct in general, but this is not strictly true. It has worked before. The Bear at A&M was famous for it. I had a close friend d at Bama when the Bear came to Bama. He used players he didn't want as tackling dummies to free up their scholarships. Please don't say anything obvious, like this is a different generation. I know that. I merely note that your absolute dictum about never working is historically inaccurate.

Don't forget Saban. He cleaned house his first year and they had an atrocious first year.
 

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Uh...muLLLLLLen and his garbage staff got fired while Riley and Kelly snuck out in the middle of the night might have a little bit to do with why they aint thanking them.

Like I said, I honestly don’t know so if they haven’t been then that certainly makes sense. Are they doing that at LSU, UM and other places coaches were fired? I don’t follow recruiting at those schools closely but maybe you do. Just curious but it’s not something I remember from the recruits we lost after Chump and Butters firing either.
 

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I see this thrown around by all of the recruiting writers. But, they say transition classes are notorious for being utterly useless. If true, then I don’t care. Gibson is the only one I wanted. I’m not panicking at all. I’ll make my judgment after next year’s class. Let him actually build his organization first. Plus, I’ve seen reports we already have another QB coming in. Whether he is as highly ranked as Evers I don’t know.

Kyle Pitts was on MuLLLLLLLLenz transition class. Definitrly not "utterly" useless.
 

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It’s recruiting athletes, not some billion dollar M&A process. Two of the three kids that bailed from Mullen and his staff of idiots have now committed to Smart and Saban. So while I think Mullen sucked, the idea that because he liked him he must be garbage is dumb. As is the idea that you need to study a Top50 WR with great speed out of your home state for 3 months to determine whether or not he’s any good. Watch one of those aforementioned coaches gladly take Gibson within a week or so. Maybe it’s time to speed up.
 
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You may be correct in general, but this is not strictly true. It has worked before. The Bear at A&M was famous for it. I had a close friend d at Bama when the Bear came to Bama. He used players he didn't want as tackling dummies to free up their scholarships. Please don't say anything obvious, like this is a different generation. I know that. I merely note that your absolute dictum about never working is historically inaccurate.

Well I’m not going to imply that this is a different generation of players, because as you point out that is obvious. But it’s also a different generation financially. Go back to the long rant I posted early this morning. The reason it doesn’t work is because for lack of a better word, the AD commits fraud in that he tells the coach he’ll have time while simultaneously telling boosters it will be quick. No one is shelling out millions to watch someone burn things to the ground and stumble through the first three years. Like @GatorInKnox pointed out, that’s what happened with Charlie at Texas. Boosters will never sit idly for several years so someone can create their own version of UF football, especially when some of the pitfalls were avoidable. This isn’t 1950s football. It a bazillion dollar business that moves way faster. The clock already started ticking. If this persists, he’ll never see year 4. That is reality.
 

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Nick Evers. His mama came on the podcast. His mama! "My little boy just didn't feel the chemistry. Not like with Dorky Dan. Dorky Dan was cool, he connected with my little boy".

Not saying Napier is not falling on his face, but losing this kid seems like losing a Mullen level competitor.
 

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Letting a top 50 Fl WR slip through your fingers because of your “process” is inexcusable. I am on board with most of what I have seen so far. We can live without Evers and Smith, but keeping Gibson in the class was important. How do you not prioritize that? This is a real head scratcher for me, there was no possible downside to putting a priority on keeping him.
 

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You guys a hilarious we get a coach that actually recruits and 2 guys jump ship and it's the ship is sinking. He's building a new ****ing ship it takes time.

Napier reveals to the recruit that he's interested in a running QB, so the recruit takes off running.?? :confused:
 

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I dont know how players will gel with Billy but listening to his last team they friggin loved the guy and so did the fans. Does that mean he will be the next Saban? I dont have a clue. I really hope we see a couple 4 stars and maybe one 5 star flip our way so we can all feel better.
 

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I'm not particularly worried.
The last staff didn't recruit or develop talent well. Kids leaving are their kids. And tbh, we don't know what they got told. Maybe it was just enough to test their loyalty.
 
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