Spring Practice info: another spring in the books for UF football

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Five things we know about UF’s football team

http://www.gatorsports.com/2018/04/five-things-we-know-about-ufs-football-team/

1. QB race is tighter than ever

Heading into last Friday’s scrimmage, Feleipe Franks appeared to be the clear early leader for the starting role. He’d worked mostly with the No. 1 offense in practice and was sharp in passing drills, showing accuracy and the ability to go through his progressions to find the open receiver. Then in the scrimmage he looked like the old Feleipe, struggling with accuracy and turning the ball over. His performance — only seven completions in 22 attempts with three interceptions — has only tightened the race. And the QB who is the biggest threat to Franks is Kyle Trask, who had much better success moving the offense than Franks in the scrimmage. His confidence appears to be growing. Things could change over the next two weeks, but as it stands right now, it looks like a two-man race between Franks and Trask.

2. Receivers are getting open

Here’s something we haven’t seen in a while: UF’s wide receivers are creating separation from the defensive backs and getting open. And it’s not just the new guys — transfers Van Jefferson and Trevon Grimes — that are doing it. So are some of the receivers who could not get open a year ago, including Josh Hammond, Freddie Swain and Kadarius Toney. It is apparent that in Billy Gonzales the receivers are getting better coaching than they were the past two seasons. Before the start of spring, Gonzales talked about how important getting separation is and how there are ways to do it, there are coachable techniques. And we’re seeing it now.

3. Backs can scoot

Even with Malik Davis, UF’s second-leading rusher last season, out for the spring, the Gators appear to have plenty of talent and playmaking ability at running back. Jordan Scarlett is back and already appears close to regaining his 2016 form, which had been moving him closer to elite status. And he’s getting pushed by four others — Lamical Perine, Adarius Lemons, Dameon Pierce and Iverson Clement — who have done some impressive things this spring. Perine has been steady, maybe the hardest runner among the group, and Lemons put his dynamic playmaking ability on display with an 88-yard TD run in the scrimmage. The two true freshmen (Pierce and Clement) have not performed like true freshmen. Pierce could be the most natural runner among the backs and likely will be in the playing rotation in the fall.

4. The rush is on

Early indications are the Gators are going to have something on defense that was missing last season — a strong and steady pass rush. The defensive front generated a consistent pass rush in last Friday’s scrimmage, and did it without an assist from blitzing linebackers. And it wasn’t just the edge guys — Cece Jefferson, Jachai Polite and Jabari Zuniga — bringing the heat. The Gators were also getting a strong inside push from the tackles, true sophomore Tedarrell Slaton in particular. Defensive coordinator Todd Grantham is aggressive and likes to blitz, but if he can get pressure from the front three or four, it will allow him to drop more linebackers into coverage and possibly generate more big plays in the secondary.

5. CBs the real deal

Coming into the spring, we already had a pretty good idea how much talent the Gators had at cornerback in true sophomores Marco Wilson and CJ Henderson. Their strong, and sometimes spectacular, play over the past two weeks has only confirmed that they are potentially elite players in the DBU tradition. So, the Gators feel good about those two critical spots on defense. But not totally comfortable because depth is an issue that still has to be resolved between now and the start of the season. Right now, there’s a considerable drop-off at corner when Wilson and Henderson are not in there. The backups — C.J. McWilliams, McArthur Burnett and true freshman Trey Dean — haven’t played much, so they still have a long way to go.
 

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Even with all the experience I just dont think this line is talented enough to be one of the top 5 or so lines in the SEC. I hope Mullen can at least turn them into an average SEC line finally as that has eluded them so far. Ivey is the only one physically talented enough to be an elite lineman if he could learn his job mentally.

I think Heggie is all-SEC caliber. His return will give Hevesy a lot of options (i.e. move Johnson back to the bench).

I think Jordon lacks the natural talent, but he doesn't lack effort. He's coachable. I'm not sure how coachable Johnson is. So it's a toss-up between which one of those two is the next guy....unless Ivey moves back to OG.

If Ivey moves back to OG, who replaces him at OT? We know Taylor is the other OT, and hopefully he improves as well. But outside of Ivey and Taylor, is it TJ Moore? Forsyth? Delance?

Then there's the JUCO kid, who was a 2nd team all-American last year.

It's only been 6 or 7 practices so far, so I'm not going to panic. But Law and others are right, if this OL gets it's sh*t together we should see a much improved offense (which isn't saying much).
 

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I saw part of Ricky Bobby last weekend. It occurred to me that Butters reminds me of that fat driver that Ricky Bobby replaced.

His mindset rubbed off on the whole team.
Holy Crap yes. Replace the chicken sandwich with a PB&J.

Dan Mullen even soundsl ike Ricky Bobby. I just wanna go fast.
 

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Soooo....why not "trash" the guy? You just pick and chose the nice hard working guys to verbally abuse? Dick.
Bc he has actually played football in HS and is a Div 1 player, albeit a Sunbelt one.
 

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Five things we know about UF’s football team

http://www.gatorsports.com/2018/04/five-things-we-know-about-ufs-football-team/

1. QB race is tighter than ever

Heading into last Friday’s scrimmage, Feleipe Franks appeared to be the clear early leader for the starting role. He’d worked mostly with the No. 1 offense in practice and was sharp in passing drills, showing accuracy and the ability to go through his progressions to find the open receiver.

Agree with the clear leader part up until the scrimmage. I've also seen it reported his accuracy has improved. As far as going through his progressions? Andreu is the only one I've seen report this. Everyone else I've read says the opposite.


5. CBs the real deal .

Mullen himself said there is no depth at CB. Chauncey has looked great at nickel. Dean is up and down. McWilliams and Burnett will never see the field unless injuries hit. Brian Edwards and Dean seem to be the 2 guys in the lead for the back up to Wilson and CJ. Edwards supposedly had a very good scrimmage.
 

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2. Receivers are getting open

Here’s something we haven’t seen in a while: UF’s wide receivers are creating separation from the defensive backs and getting open. And it’s not just the new guys — transfers Van Jefferson and Trevon Grimes — that are doing it. So are some of the receivers who could not get open a year ago, including Josh Hammond, Freddie Swain and Kadarius Toney. It is apparent that in Billy Gonzales the receivers are getting better coaching than they were the past two seasons. Before the start of spring, Gonzales talked about how important getting separation is and how there are ways to do it, there are coachable techniques. And we’re seeing it now.

He should have said the last 7 seasons. :facepalm:

I'm so ready to have a functional offense again.
 

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4. The rush is on

Early indications are the Gators are going to have something on defense that was missing last season — a strong and steady pass rush. The defensive front generated a consistent pass rush in last Friday’s scrimmage, and did it without an assist from blitzing linebackers. And it wasn’t just the edge guys — Cece Jefferson, Jachai Polite and Jabari Zuniga — bringing the heat. The Gators were also getting a strong inside push from the tackles, true sophomore Tedarrell Slaton in particular. Defensive coordinator Todd Grantham is aggressive and likes to blitz, but if he can get pressure from the front three or four, it will allow him to drop more linebackers into coverage and possibly generate more big plays in the secondary.

I'm not ready to shout these praises yet. Look who they are getting the push against. Its our Oline that has been bad to putrid the last few years. I'll definitely wait for the season to get going and we actually play against a real line before I declare we have a pass rush again.
 

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If this headline isn't an understatement I don't know what is....


Veteran Florida offensive line facing ‘last chance to get it right’ with new voice setting the tone

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/florida-gators-football-offensive-line-john-hevesy-coach

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — Drift far enough toward the back end zone of the Florida practice fields, and John Hevesy’s voice becomes the soundtrack to the spring.

He’s loud, he’s direct and he’s trying to coax a returning group of Gators offensive linemen into a better collective unit than they’ve been at any point these last few years.

As has been clear through spring practice, that’s going to be a process.

“Rome wasn’t built in a day, brother. We got a ways to go. We got a ways to go,” Hevesy, the offensive line coach, said after the first few spring practices. “I think they are buying into it. But it’s just, again, it’s like anything. You need to do it 10,000 times before it’s perfected. So we are on about 300. So we got a ways to go.”

Left tackle Martez Ivey passed on the NFL draft to return for his senior season, while left guard Tyler Jordan and right guard Fred Johnson also are seniors who have been in and out of the starting lineup since their freshman seasons. Junior right tackle Jawaan Taylor has started the last two seasons, and redshirt junior center T.J. McCoy has started since late in the 2016 season.

And maybe at some point Brett Heggie, the starting left guard last fall, will return from the knee injury that ended his encouraging redshirt freshman season and continues to keep him out this spring.

Normally, that kind of experience would be viewed as an obvious asset. But with this group, it just further underscores the questions and doubts about the unit.

For all the experience the offensive line carried into last season — former coach Jim McElwain boldly dubbed the group the strength of the team — Florida ended up ranking 123rd out of 129 FBS teams in sacks allowed (3.36 per game) while getting manhandled up front by its tougher opponents (Michigan, Georgia and Florida State, to name a few).

“For me and like for Fred and for Tyler it is our last chance. Our last chance to get it right, last chance to, you know, do what we came here to do,” Ivey said Friday after the Gators’ first spring scrimmage. “We didn’t come here to go 4-7. We came here to compete for championships and win a championship. I mean, that’s my mindset, that’s their mindset. It should be everybody’s mindset around here.”

But what is going to flip the switch with a group that has endured many of the same struggles for several years now?

“I would say Coach Hevesy. He’s been really big on fundamentals and technique. I’d say just us being fundamentally sound,” McCoy said. “You know, we’ve got a new offense, most of our install is done and now it’s just knowing how to do it, the different techniques. Coach Hevesy’s really big — really big — about technique. In my opinion he’s Coach [Nick] Savage on steroids when it comes to technique. He’s a very intense guy, and he’s really big on us doing the thing right, doing everything right. And just having the attitude and really being the protectors of this offense.”

Savage, of course, is the Gators’ new strength and conditioning coordinator who set the tone for the team during offseason workouts.

Hevesy, meanwhile, has been with Mullen since they worked together at Bowling Green under Urban Meyer. They continued on together to Utah, Florida (for two national championships), Mississippi State and now back to Gainesville.

Mullen believes in Hevesy’s ability to get the most out of his units, and that is his challenge now.

That is why his voice is strained during practice yelling out commands and holding his linemen accountable for mistakes.

During Florida’s open practice for fans and media two Saturdays ago, Hevesy was the loudest coach on the field.

“I’m tired of sacks. Pay attention!” he yelled to his unit, among other things, during live team drills.

Like McCoy said, he’s taking this veteran group all the way back to the basics this spring.

“Fundamentals. Fundamentals. We’ve got a long time to make sure we learn the assignments — everything we talk about is learning what, how and why: What to do, how to do it and why you’re doing it,” Hevesy said.

“My biggest thing with them is discipline. I can’t stand offsides, and we’ve done it too many times. We did it about five times [in practice],” he said after that practice about two weeks ago while speaking with reporters. “That’s just mental discipline and focus on what you have to do. We have to pay attention, we have to be on things, and that takes no talent to listen to the cadence. But there’s enough there to work with. Now it’s just a matter of who is going to step up with all the things we’re working on.”

Florida has some newcomers to the unit with redshirt sophomore Jean DeLance, who sat out last season after transferring from Texas; JUCO addition Noah Banks; freshman early enrollee Chris Bleich; and a couple of more freshman signees on the way this summer.

But so far none have overtaken the incumbents on the first team. Those guys are now on their third offensive line coach in three years, with the hope that Hevesy can be the one to unlock more potential than what the group has collectively exhibited to this point.

Time will tell.

Rome wasn’t built in a day, and more than three years into the process, the Gators’ offensive line remains under construction as well.

“I feel like we needed what happened to us last year,” McCoy said. “We thought it was going to be our year last year and it wasn’t. I believe everybody on this team, especially on the offensive line, we have a bad taste in our mouth and we’re just ready to prove everybody wrong and to prove that we can be the strength of the team.”

Last chance for them to do it right and they come out to the first scrimmage (in front of the fans no less) flat with no energy or urgency...not going to buy their talk until I see it
 

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Last chance for them to do it right and they come out to the first scrimmage (in front of the fans no less) flat with no energy or urgency...not going to buy their talk until I see it

They actually only played in front of the media. But point taken....

I like @divits idea of putting all the "starters" on the 2nd team for a few practices and see if it lights a fire under their fat, lazy asses. There's enough bodies on campus now that there's enough 2's and 3's waiting their turn. If these guys keep underperforming, why not try the next guy?
 

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They actually only played in front of the media. But point taken....

I like @divits idea of putting all the "starters" on the 2nd team for a few practices and see if it lights a fire under their fat, lazy asses. There's enough bodies on campus now that there's enough 2's and 3's waiting their turn. If these guys keep underperforming, why not try the next guy?

Ah yes you are correct
 

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I think Heggie is all-SEC caliber. His return will give Hevesy a lot of options (i.e. move Johnson back to the bench).

I think Jordon lacks the natural talent, but he doesn't lack effort. He's coachable. I'm not sure how coachable Johnson is. So it's a toss-up between which one of those two is the next guy....unless Ivey moves back to OG.

If Ivey moves back to OG, who replaces him at OT? We know Taylor is the other OT, and hopefully he improves as well. But outside of Ivey and Taylor, is it TJ Moore? Forsyth? Delance?

Then there's the JUCO kid, who was a 2nd team all-American last year.

It's only been 6 or 7 practices so far, so I'm not going to panic. But Law and others are right, if this OL gets it's sh*t together we should see a much improved offense (which isn't saying much).

I have a feeling Ivey will stay at LT the whole season. Hopefully this staff gets his mind right.
 

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Agree with the clear leader part up until the scrimmage. I've also seen it reported his accuracy has improved. As far as going through his progressions? Andreu is the only one I've seen report this. Everyone else I've read says the opposite..
Which of our writers do you believe? I sure as hell dont believe Andreu, Drooley or Bowl. None even have the slightest semblance of acumen at analyzing football. Frankly I doubt any have ever participate in any organized sport.

No, beer chugging contests do not count.
 

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Which of our writers do you believe? I sure as hell dont believe Andreu, Drooley or Bowl. None even have the slightest semblance of acumen at analyzing football. Frankly I doubt any have ever participate in any organized sport.

No, beer chugging contests do not count.

I like Goldkamp.
 

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I like Goldkamp.
He wont really say anything though. everything is so veiled or nuanced. last year when Butters was talking about the best OL in the SEC, offensive explosion coming, receivers open everywhere etc, Andrew Gravey was parroting everything, and was a little concerned, but Goldcamp would mostly just say "Uh huh". You could tell by the tone of his voice he didn't believe it, but he certainly wouldn't say it or write it. I don't know what to think.

I know at one point Dwagstank threw Gator Country off campus for a bit. I think they are gun shy.
 
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Which of our writers do you believe? I sure as hell dont believe Andreu, Drooley or Bowl. None even have the slightest semblance of acumen at analyzing football. Frankly I doubt any have ever participate in any organized sport.

No, beer chugging contests do not count.

I take what they say with a grain of salt. The scrimmage reports are a perfect example. They made it sound good for the most part. The o-line play excluded. Mullen refuted all of that. I read or listen to most of them except for those from the other site. I did post a tweet from Andreu the other day which was a first for me. That won't happen often. So, Bowl (on rare occasions), Nick de la Torre, Spivey, Kassidy Hill, Will Miles, Jake Winderman, Bill Sikes, Ryan Young, Jeff Cordozo, Ryan Green (on occasion), and a few others.
 

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Beer chugging = five years of college

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