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I mean, someone can. They’ll just look awfully stupid.You meant that as a challenge, right?
I mean, someone can. They’ll just look awfully stupid.You meant that as a challenge, right?
We need bagmen. Sal Sunseri is all of a sudden a star recruiter at Bama. He did chit when he was here.Lets be real here, im very pleased overall with mullen and the direction of the program, but the recruiting has to pick up or we will plateu right around 9-10 wins a year and that will be our living space. Our own Mark Richt to be brutally honest.
I've heard the 'win and they will come' mantra from many for years... its only marginaly true. We are winning, and because of that, we are getting some. But there are teams out there that arent winning nearly as much that are getting more, because winning is only part of the recipe, and like it or not, it isnt the main ingredient. If you can only have one, wins or stud recruiters, the stud recruiters will land you more talent than the wins will. Its been historically proven over and over again. Kids are young and impressionable, and the right salesman can sell ice to an eskimo. No matter how counterintuitive it seems, its just truth, and its because these are 17 and 18 yr old kids and they dont make decisions like adults do.
We will likely finish this year as good or better than last based on what weve seen so far this season and in comparison to our SEC east peers and remaining schedule, but I'd be surprised if we end up much different on signing day than last recruiting cycle because of it. Gators were probably the second hottest team in the nation by seasons end, second only to Clemson... and look what it got us. A meh class with a couple of hail mary's that never had a chance of stepping on campus, just to make things look a little better on signing day. Tell me how a similar finish (very likely) this year is going to be any different?
We need to jettison some dead weight and get some crooters. I dont put this on Mullen... yet. It's on his personnel, but its his job to make moves to his staff once these issues are identified. If he doesnt, then it is on him. Get to work.
Let's win the East maybe even win the SEC, then let's talk. Let's beat Georgia first.Agreed, winning helps marginally.
With us winning and FSU/UM sucking we should be loaded. Even UGAy is showing cracks. That we are not says volumes about the recruiting staff. This is the perfect storm for us yet so far we haven't been able to take advantage of it. Recruiters are like salesman, either you're a closer or you're not, there's no in between. We need closers.
I'm praying that Mullen makes changes to the staff. If it takes a subpar class this year for him to realize it then so be it.
Well it is GCMB....I mean, someone can. They’ll just look awfully stupid.
Not overly exciting...but we did land a commitment tonight from a PWO long-snapper out of Sarasota, 6'5 220lbs, August Drews - also plays TE:
There’s literally no way to disagree with this. 100%, dead on.
I mean, someone can. They’ll just look awfully stupid.[/QUOTE]
Oh know you don't -- baiting me by showing how qualified I am.
Not overly exciting...but we did land a commitment tonight from a PWO long-snapper out of Sarasota, 6'5 220lbs, August Drews - also plays TE:
A PWO is a walkon.Nothing against this kid but why? Aren't LS's typically walkons?
Ah, didnt catch that. I guess the other thing is it's not like we don't have scholarships to spare.A PWO is a walkon.
I agree with most of it, but I also think you take it too far. Richt is a pretty poor example imo, didnt he have pretty good recruiting classes?Lets be real here, im very pleased overall with mullen and the direction of the program, but the recruiting has to pick up or we will plateu right around 9-10 wins a year and that will be our living space. Our own Mark Richt to be brutally honest.
I've heard the 'win and they will come' mantra from many for years... its only marginaly true. We are winning, and because of that, we are getting some. But there are teams out there that arent winning nearly as much that are getting more, because winning is only part of the recipe, and like it or not, it isnt the main ingredient. If you can only have one, wins or stud recruiters, the stud recruiters will land you more talent than the wins will. Its been historically proven over and over again. Kids are young and impressionable, and the right salesman can sell ice to an eskimo. No matter how counterintuitive it seems, its just truth, and its because these are 17 and 18 yr old kids and they dont make decisions like adults do.
We will likely finish this year as good or better than last based on what weve seen so far this season and in comparison to our SEC east peers and remaining schedule, but I'd be surprised if we end up much different on signing day than last recruiting cycle because of it. Gators were probably the second hottest team in the nation by seasons end, second only to Clemson... and look what it got us. A meh class with a couple of hail mary's that never had a chance of stepping on campus, just to make things look a little better on signing day. Tell me how a similar finish (very likely) this year is going to be any different?
We need to jettison some dead weight and get some crooters. I dont put this on Mullen... yet. It's on his personnel, but its his job to make moves to his staff once these issues are identified. If he doesnt, then it is on him. Get to work.
With Donk as Blutarski....I mean, someone can. They’ll just look awfully stupid.
He’s recruiting slightly better than what we’ve had the last 4 years and is on pace for 9-10 wins again. I’d say its pretty realistic.9-10 wins is optimistic with this kind of recruiting. We will be wishing for Richt 2.0. The whole wait for the results on the field is ridiculous. We are significantly ahead of Miami and FSU in terms of results on the field, yet our recruiting to this stage is about the same.
He’s recruiting slightly better than what we’ve had the last 4 years and is on pace for 9-10 wins again. I’d say its pretty realistic.
The 247 team talent composite isn’t the end all be all but here’s the last few years:The attrition in the 2019 class was significantly above average and with adjustment after attrition we are barely in the top 20.
Gonna trigger Slev w this.The 247 team talent composite isn’t the end all be all but here’s the last few years:
2015-15th
2016-16th
2017-17th
2018-12th
2019-15th
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Everything triggers @Slevin. Its what he does.Gonna trigger Slev w this.
The 247 team talent composite isn’t the end all be all but here’s the last few years:
2015-15th
2016-16th
2017-17th
2018-12th
2019-15th
I tried to find the revisited 2019 rankings but I want to say we fell to 16th-ish - which is right in line with the average talent we’ve had on hand. Additionally, probably not a whole lot of variation between teams in the teens. I’m guessing our 2020 class is around 10th or so when all is said and done and will keep our talent composite about the same.
TL;DR - Rankings don’t support your claim.