Fitzgerald Fired: Northwestern Hazing Culture

[oxrageous]

You knew as soon as the media got a hold of this nothingburger story that the coach would be fired. Sign of the times. All it takes is one Jonathan Martin-type to do it.

Eventually, all the Jonathan Martin's of the world will kill the sport of football (and all sports, really) for good.

 

[gardnerwebbgator]

Fitz fired. As he should’ve been.

Northwestern fires Fitzgerald amid hazing claims

Northwestern fired longtime coach Pat Fitzgerald amid allegations of widespread hazing within the football program. Defensive coordinator David Braun is expected to be named the Wildcats' acting coach, sources told ESPN.

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David Shaw is too logical a replacement choice here with all the academic side to deal with.

 

[Homer J]

Mullen would be licking his chops thinking we’re going to steal all those 3* players…

 

[t-gator]

He should be able to keep his job if he does one of those naked qb center exchanges with an assistant

 

[GatorJ]

some chatter that Hartline would be a good fit.

Yes please.

 

[SGG]

If I told you the schit my fraternity did to our pledges back in the 80s, the cops would show up at my door and execute me on the spot.

There’s a thread for this in the saloon ….

 

[Zambo]

There’s a thread for this in the saloon ….

Believe me, there”s no thread for this.

 

[cover2]

You knew as soon as the media got a hold of this nothingburger story that the coach would be fired. Sign of the times. All it takes is one Jonathan Martin-type to do it.

Eventually, all the Jonathan Martin's of the world will kill the sport of football (and all sports, really) for good.

If a coach allows that kinda crap to go on, whether knowing and supporting or blissfully ignorant, sooner or later it’s going to get out of the capsule. When it does, he no longer has total control of his future. If a team wants to have the student athletes take corrective responsibility, set up a leadership counsel under supervision and run it that way. Glorifying what’s tantamount to a prison hierarchy isn’t the way.

 

[GatorJ]

It looks like Back Alley Gator thinks that all these guys should be naked and running up each other’s Back Alleys.

 

[Back Alley Gator]

It looks like Back Alley Gator thinks that all these guys should be naked and running up each other’s Back Alleys.

No. I think they should have been men and solved their own damn problems. Noone hazes you unless you let them.

 

[GatorJ]

No. I think they should have been men and solved their own damn problems. Noone hazes you unless you let them.

I’d agree on the level of the NFL. Not college athletics.

 

[oxrageous]

If a coach allows that kinda crap to go on, whether knowing and supporting or blissfully ignorant, sooner or later it’s going to get out of the capsule. When it does, he no longer has total control of his future. If a team wants to have the student athletes take corrective responsibility, set up a leadership counsel under supervision and run it that way. Glorifying what’s tantamount to a prison hierarchy isn’t the way.

It went on for 100+ years of sports without any issues.

 

[cover2]

It looks like Back Alley Gator thinks that all these guys should be naked and running up each other’s Back Alleys.

Sometimes acceptance trumps self confidence

 

[cover2]

It went on for 100+ years of sports without any issues.

I don’t believe that extreme has been or is what’s normal. Would you let a bunch of “teammates” hold you down and dry hump you or willingly put your hands on another guy’s junk or have him put it on yours? I’m telling you there’s a better way to develop a team bond. If it’s a survival of the fittest, the coaches should be perfectly capable of setting up man-to-man or team competitions to make those determinations. Urban Meyer was great in this aspect despite whatever may be thought of him personally. This secret society bull schit has been over-glorified. I’ll finish by saying that successful teams need some thugs, but they can’t be the rulers nor can that mindset prevail.

 

[Back Alley Gator]

Sometimes acceptance trumps self confidence

Sounds like an opportunity to develop more self confidence.

 

[oxrageous]

Would you let a bunch of “teammates” hold you down and dry hump you or willingly put your hands on another guy’s junk or have him put it on yours?

Let them? Hell, I'd instigate.

 

[cover2]

Sounds like an opportunity to develop more self confidence.

Brother, as a player and later as a coach, I had all the opportunities I needed to develop self-confidence during spring and summer workouts, two-a-days, fall practice, games, and off-season workouts. The guy I played for wasn’t f’n around and he knew how to pair us or team us up to create competition. You learned to win these battles and develop that pride and self-confidence and it often started by getting beat and then deciding whether to go again and bring more with you next time or find an easier sport. The culture he developed didn’t include a bunch of naked gay schit glorified as “Spartan” or some other heraldic nonsense.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

You knew as soon as the media got a hold of this nothingburger story that the coach would be fired. Sign of the times. All it takes is one Jonathan Martin-type to do it.

Eventually, all the Jonathan Martin's of the world will kill the sport of football (and all sports, really) for good.

Ox was one of the guys nude dry humping freshman during his senior year

 

[oxrageous]

I was primarily trying to trigger GatorJ. I could picture him clutching his pearls bad over this dumb story. He probably lost sleep. Spittle flying from his mouth as he expressed his disgust to his wife over dinner concerning this "knuckle dragger" coach.

It appears his skin is getting thicker.

 

[B52G8rAC]

Sometimes acceptance trumps self confidence

Sometimes Trump's self confidence inhibits acceptance. Whoops, wrong thread.