GatorTom85
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After destroying San Diego State, George Washington is playing in the NIT final against Valpo. What could have been? We had a chance to be #69!
You do realize that your reply re-enforces my argument, don't you?Tommy Bartlett won 21 games during the regular season when he inherited a team that was loaded to include the best player in school history (Neal Walk) that Norm Sloan left for him.
Oh by the way, he was fired 2-3 years later when the talent he inherited was gone.
Just saying, I don't think there is any comparison between the two situations.
Looks to me like we win the NIT if Egbunu plays. Not bad for a first year coach inheriting a losing team.
Just new angle thinking.
NIT used to be the preeminent tourney. (It started a year prior to NCAA tourney & had the
marquee venue Madison Square Garden.) In 1974 Al McGuire (Marquette) chose the NIT
over their NCAA offer. After that, the NCAA barred any school declining their tourney from
playing in any postseason games elsewhere.
Antitrust lawsuit filed, NCAA fixed by buying the NIT ... that's right, the NCAA owns the NIT in
both senses of that word. There is now favorable consideration (= it will happen) of expanding
March Madness to 96 teams ! This leads to most all Power-6 Conference teams getting in and
then #s 97+ can start complaining.
This different POV shows that by the earlier expansions of the MMadness, once NIT-bound teams
became Big Dance teams ... further expansion = top NIT seeds will be at MMadness = blurred lines.
PS>> Heard March Madness is considering inviting a year-away all-star team of Kentucky's
high school recruits.
You've been twerking Miley Cyrus again, haven't you?
You do realize that your reply re-enforces my argument, don't you?
Meh, maybe. The jury is certainly still out, but most of that "solid" team was coached last year by one of the best coaches in basketball-- and to a losing record. If we improve as much next year as we did this year, we will be worth watching.Yes, I can see that but I am also trying (maybe not so well) to say that there is no comparison to the two situations nor does winning twenty mean anything.
The Bartlett example proves that you can back into twenty wins without doing a great job. in Bartlett's case all he had to do was hold on.
In White's case he also inherited a solid team and backed into twenty wins without winning anything meaningful. The jury is out on White and I am still hopeful that he gets it going. However, I just fail to see how anyone that follows the team closely can consider White's performance this year a success. We play in THE worst major conference in the country and yet we finished 9-9.
I believe we had the 6th toughest SOS in the country - our OOC schedule was brutal for a first year coach. 20 wins was an accomplishment, if nothing else. But also agree that I would not call this year a success. If we had just reached the dance, I would have thought it a success, but we floundered down the stretch and did not deserve a bid.Yes, I can see that but I am also trying (maybe not so well) to say that there is no comparison to the two situations nor does winning twenty mean anything.
The Bartlett example proves that you can back into twenty wins without doing a great job. in Bartlett's case all he had to do was hold on.
In White's case he also inherited a solid team and backed into twenty wins without winning anything meaningful. The jury is out on White and I am still hopeful that he gets it going. However, I just fail to see how anyone that follows the team closely can consider White's performance this year a success. We play in THE worst major conference in the country and yet we finished 9-9.
If by most you mean less than half, then sure. Keep telling yourself that.Meh, maybe. The jury is certainly still out, but most of that "solid" team was coached last year by one of the best coaches in basketball-- and to a losing record. If we improve as much next year as we did this year, we will be worth watching.
As it stands now, our starting lineup projects to be RSJr Egbunu, RSSr (6th year) Murphy, Jr Robinson, So Allen, and Sr Hill, with Sr Leon the first guy off the bench. In college basketball it doesn't get much older than that.Next year our OOC SOS will not be as tough, but we'll also be playing all of our OOC away from home, which should pose a real challenge for this young team
The argument will still be that this isn't White's team and we'll have to wait for more of his recruits to come in.As it stands now, our starting lineup projects to be RSJr Egbunu, RSSr (6th year) Murphy, Jr Robinson, So Allen, and Sr Hill, with Sr Leon the first guy off the bench. In college basketball it doesn't get much older than that.
Maybe I should have said, 'inexperienced' team (BTW: we were just below the 300th youngest team for the season that just ended).As it stands now, our starting lineup projects to be RSJr Egbunu, RSSr (6th year) Murphy, Jr Robinson, So Allen, and Sr Hill, with Sr Leon the first guy off the bench. In college basketball it doesn't get much older than that.