FSU hires Cornrow Norvell from bottom feeder Memphis

[Gator Fever]

I hope they don't get lucky with a decent hire. I thought he would be around another year.

 

[GatorFL]

Macsharkhumper may be available.

It's funny, but not really for them. Jimbo screwed them, then they followed if up by hiring a complete dud. If they don't get this next hire right they are Miami. Let's hope whomever it is is worse than Willie!

 

[Sec14Gator]

I need to know, Is Florida State still in Shambles? Please help. Asking for a friend.

 

[aka]

Instead of a gofundme, Thrasher went with the lesser known go****me account.

 

[oxrageous]

Mark Stoops? Good Lord, knock yourself out. The guy is a mediocrity and certainly not anyone that would concern me.

 

[rogdochar]

This from comments section on WT Fired article.

1. Saw this coming when he was first hired.
   
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   Guaranteed the next FSU Head Coach will have a lighter complexion.
   
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Kiffin[/QUOTE]

Swipe Les Miles from Kansas, making $2.5 mil, surely low buyout? He has been totally underrated (IMO)
Could there be a DC or OC that FSU might bite on.
Kiffin might be the smartest choice, since he'll bring his NFL Dad. Kiffin maybe has learned about hard work?
Anyway, with these "set-for-life" buyouts becoming such huge headlines, coaches will pour over playbooks of planning buyout routes.
$-Stuff will overshadow football program dream-jobs.

 

[Gatorraid81]

@CFTalk: Kentucky’s Mark Stoops headlines list of potential candidates to replace WiLLLLLLLie Taggart at FSU Kentucky’s Mark Stoops headlines list of potential candidates to replace WiLLLLLLLie Taggart at FSU

Any of those names would be better than Willie

 

[Gatorraid81]

Mark Stoops? Good Lord, knock yourself out. The guy is a mediocrity and certainly not anyone that would concern me.

He’s certainly given Mullen more trouble than I expected, with Kentucky talent.

 

[LagoonGator68]

Boosters let the pres know that they will back the decision to let Taggart go.
The hat has already been passed and the check is ready to be signed.
No way this move would have been made without this type of backing.

Florida State University President John Thrasher, a former House speaker, said ties to lawmakers are important to the schools, noting the role he and former Senate President Jim King, R-Jacksonville, played in advancing FSU’s agenda, including the creation of a medical school.

“It’s extraordinarily important,” Thrasher said, adding he is pleased by FSU’s contingent of 18 House members and eight senators in the 2017 session.

But Thrasher, who also served as a state senator, said the influence of alumni tends to even out over time.

“Everybody has had their turn,” Thrasher said. “But you know what, higher education is the ultimate thing. And I think everybody in the House and Senate leadership care about higher education, so we feel like we’re going to do fine.”

 

[oxrageous]

Here's the candidates:

Here's the bad news for Florida State after firing Willie Taggart

1. James Franklin, Penn State – We wrote this morning on Yahoo Sports that Franklin is USC’s likely top target. It’s reasonable to think FSU fired Taggart so soon because they wanted a jump on top candidates. Franklin has the experience, skill and recruiting cachet to revive the Seminoles. Does he risk the administrative migraines? His buyout is only $1 million, but his salary is $5 million and FSU would have to overpay.

2. Mario Cristobal, Oregon – Andy Miller and the Seminole Boosters could get invited to the Eugene Chamber of Commerce for an Economic Stimulus Award if Cristobal goes there. They’d have to pay $9 million up until Jan. 14, in addition to the $3 million they paid for Taggart. Cristobal is a Florida native and has long coveted this job. Does he leave stable AD Rob Mullens and the burgeoning program for the unknown in Tallahassee?

3. Matt Rhule, Baylor – He’s certainly navigated some messes before in his career, as he revived Baylor in the wake of sanctions. Rhule has learned with Pat Kraft at Temple and Mack Rhoades at Baylor how important alignment is in a coaching job. The alignment at FSU is not immediately visible.

4. P.J. Fleck, Minnesota – His buyout is $4 million, which isn’t insurmountable. Fleck has made both Western Michigan (13-1 in 2016) and Minnesota (8-0) relevant in a four-year span by going undefeated deep into the season, which shows he can do more with less. It’s the first time either has been on the national stage in generations. What could he do with the talent and brand of FSU?

5. Matt Campbell, Iowa State – The $6 million buyout would be a factor. The question lingers as to whether Campbell would leave his Midwestern roots when a Big Ten or NFL job could come calling.

6. Mike Norvell, Memphis – Because all of the above coaches have stable situations, none would sprint to Tallahassee. Norvell loves Memphis and has been paid well above Group of Five market at $2.6 million, but this is the caliber of opportunity he’s been waiting for. The timing here is good for Norvell, as he just had the eyes of the college football world on the job he’s done at Memphis this weekend. Bonus for cash-strapped FSU: Norvell’s buyout is only $500,000.

7. Mark Stoops, Kentucky – Don’t be surprised if this name garners serious interest. Stoops spent three years at FSU earlier this decade and has shown he can run a capable and professional program. There’s not much sizzle to Stoops, but FSU needs to find stability more than sizzle.

8. Scott Satterfield, Louisville – Want a coach to come in and fix a chronically underachieving and undisciplined program? Well, Satterfield just did that at Louisville, taking over a 2-10 program and having them 5-3 this season. Does he aim higher? The buyout is $5 million, which isn’t untenable.

9. Bryan Harsin, Boise State – Seminoles officials saw up close what a Harsin team looks like, as the Broncos upset FSU in the opener this season. Harsin’s 78 percent winning percentage is among the elite in college football, and he clearly could instill the needed discipline and offensive polish. The biggest question: Could he jump from Boise to the deep South?

10. Luke Fickell, Cincinnati – He’s headed toward back-to-back 10-win season and brings football sensibilities that would resonate at FSU. This would be another culture leap, as Fickell has essentially never lived outside the state of Ohio. It’s hard to argue with a coach who has gone 18-3 the past two years.

11. Tony Elliott or Brent Venables, Clemson – If FSU were to go the assistant coach route, the first glance would be at Clemson. If they wanted an accomplished offensive mind, they’d look at Elliott, who has been the most coveted offensive coach the past few years in the sport. Venables has been notoriously picky, but a job the caliber of FSU could move him to change his mind.

12. Jim McElwain, Central Michigan -- While this name might be surprising, there were a number of Seminole brass who felt McElwain got a raw deal at Florida. He knows the state, and his recruiting was solid as head of the Gators. Also, who better to want to extract revenge on their biggest rival?

 

[LagoonGator68]

Here's the candidates:

Here's the bad news for Florida State after firing WiLLLLLLLie Taggart

1. James Franklin, Penn State – We wrote this morning on Yahoo Sports that Franklin is USC’s likely top target. It’s reasonable to think FSU fired Taggart so soon because they wanted a jump on top candidates. Franklin has the experience, skill and recruiting cachet to revive the Seminoles. Does he risk the administrative migraines? His buyout is only $1 million, but his salary is $5 million and FSU would have to overpay.

2. Mario Cristobal, Oregon – Andy Miller and the Seminole Boosters could get invited to the Eugene Chamber of Commerce for an Economic Stimulus Award if Cristobal goes there. They’d have to pay $9 million up until Jan. 14, in addition to the $3 million they paid for Taggart. Cristobal is a Florida native and has long coveted this job. Does he leave stable AD Rob Mullens and the burgeoning program for the unknown in Tallahassee?

3. Matt Rhule, Baylor – He’s certainly navigated some messes before in his career, as he revived Baylor in the wake of sanctions. Rhule has learned with Pat Kraft at Temple and Mack Rhoades at Baylor how important alignment is in a coaching job. The alignment at FSU is not immediately visible.

4. P.J. Fleck, Minnesota – His buyout is $4 million, which isn’t insurmountable. Fleck has made both Western Michigan (13-1 in 2016) and Minnesota (8-0) relevant in a four-year span by going undefeated deep into the season, which shows he can do more with less. It’s the first time either has been on the national stage in generations. What could he do with the talent and brand of FSU?

5. Matt Campbell, Iowa State – The $6 million buyout would be a factor. The question lingers as to whether Campbell would leave his Midwestern roots when a Big Ten or NFL job could come calling.

6. Mike Norvell, Memphis – Because all of the above coaches have stable situations, none would sprint to Tallahassee. Norvell loves Memphis and has been paid well above Group of Five market at $2.6 million, but this is the caliber of opportunity he’s been waiting for. The timing here is good for Norvell, as he just had the eyes of the college football world on the job he’s done at Memphis this weekend. Bonus for cash-strapped FSU: Norvell’s buyout is only $500,000.

7. Mark Stoops, Kentucky – Don’t be surprised if this name garners serious interest. Stoops spent three years at FSU earlier this decade and has shown he can run a capable and professional program. There’s not much sizzle to Stoops, but FSU needs to find stability more than sizzle.

8. Scott Satterfield, Louisville – Want a coach to come in and fix a chronically underachieving and undisciplined program? Well, Satterfield just did that at Louisville, taking over a 2-10 program and having them 5-3 this season. Does he aim higher? The buyout is $5 million, which isn’t untenable.

9. Bryan Harsin, Boise State – Seminoles officials saw up close what a Harsin team looks like, as the Broncos upset FSU in the opener this season. Harsin’s 78 percent winning percentage is among the elite in college football, and he clearly could instill the needed discipline and offensive polish. The biggest question: Could he jump from Boise to the deep South?

10. Luke Fickell, Cincinnati – He’s headed toward back-to-back 10-win season and brings football sensibilities that would resonate at FSU. This would be another culture leap, as Fickell has essentially never lived outside the state of Ohio. It’s hard to argue with a coach who has gone 18-3 the past two years.

11. Tony Elliott or Brent Venables, Clemson – If FSU were to go the assistant coach route, the first glance would be at Clemson. If they wanted an accomplished offensive mind, they’d look at Elliott, who has been the most coveted offensive coach the past few years in the sport. Venables has been notoriously picky, but a job the caliber of FSU could move him to change his mind.

12. Jim McElwain, Central Michigan -- While this name might be surprising, there were a number of Seminole brass who felt McElwain got a raw deal at Florida. He knows the state, and his recruiting was solid as head of the Gators. Also, who better to want to extract revenge on their biggest rival?

Tommy Bowden is the word on the street to Nolies

 

[GatorFL]

Here's the candidates:

Here's the bad news for Florida State after firing WiLLLLLLLie Taggart

1. James Franklin, Penn State – We wrote this morning on Yahoo Sports that Franklin is USC’s likely top target. It’s reasonable to think FSU fired Taggart so soon because they wanted a jump on top candidates. Franklin has the experience, skill and recruiting cachet to revive the Seminoles. Does he risk the administrative migraines? His buyout is only $1 million, but his salary is $5 million and FSU would have to overpay.

2. Mario Cristobal, Oregon – Andy Miller and the Seminole Boosters could get invited to the Eugene Chamber of Commerce for an Economic Stimulus Award if Cristobal goes there. They’d have to pay $9 million up until Jan. 14, in addition to the $3 million they paid for Taggart. Cristobal is a Florida native and has long coveted this job. Does he leave stable AD Rob Mullens and the burgeoning program for the unknown in Tallahassee?

3. Matt Rhule, Baylor – He’s certainly navigated some messes before in his career, as he revived Baylor in the wake of sanctions. Rhule has learned with Pat Kraft at Temple and Mack Rhoades at Baylor how important alignment is in a coaching job. The alignment at FSU is not immediately visible.

4. P.J. Fleck, Minnesota – His buyout is $4 million, which isn’t insurmountable. Fleck has made both Western Michigan (13-1 in 2016) and Minnesota (8-0) relevant in a four-year span by going undefeated deep into the season, which shows he can do more with less. It’s the first time either has been on the national stage in generations. What could he do with the talent and brand of FSU?

5. Matt Campbell, Iowa State – The $6 million buyout would be a factor. The question lingers as to whether Campbell would leave his Midwestern roots when a Big Ten or NFL job could come calling.

6. Mike Norvell, Memphis – Because all of the above coaches have stable situations, none would sprint to Tallahassee. Norvell loves Memphis and has been paid well above Group of Five market at $2.6 million, but this is the caliber of opportunity he’s been waiting for. The timing here is good for Norvell, as he just had the eyes of the college football world on the job he’s done at Memphis this weekend. Bonus for cash-strapped FSU: Norvell’s buyout is only $500,000.

7. Mark Stoops, Kentucky – Don’t be surprised if this name garners serious interest. Stoops spent three years at FSU earlier this decade and has shown he can run a capable and professional program. There’s not much sizzle to Stoops, but FSU needs to find stability more than sizzle.

8. Scott Satterfield, Louisville – Want a coach to come in and fix a chronically underachieving and undisciplined program? Well, Satterfield just did that at Louisville, taking over a 2-10 program and having them 5-3 this season. Does he aim higher? The buyout is $5 million, which isn’t untenable.

9. Bryan Harsin, Boise State – Seminoles officials saw up close what a Harsin team looks like, as the Broncos upset FSU in the opener this season. Harsin’s 78 percent winning percentage is among the elite in college football, and he clearly could instill the needed discipline and offensive polish. The biggest question: Could he jump from Boise to the deep South?

10. Luke Fickell, Cincinnati – He’s headed toward back-to-back 10-win season and brings football sensibilities that would resonate at FSU. This would be another culture leap, as Fickell has essentially never lived outside the state of Ohio. It’s hard to argue with a coach who has gone 18-3 the past two years.

11. Tony Elliott or Brent Venables, Clemson – If FSU were to go the assistant coach route, the first glance would be at Clemson. If they wanted an accomplished offensive mind, they’d look at Elliott, who has been the most coveted offensive coach the past few years in the sport. Venables has been notoriously picky, but a job the caliber of FSU could move him to change his mind.

12. Jim McElwain, Central Michigan -- While this name might be surprising, there were a number of Seminole brass who felt McElwain got a raw deal at Florida. He knows the state, and his recruiting was solid as head of the Gators. Also, who better to want to extract revenge on their biggest rival?

Why would Franklin leave Penn State for FSU or USC? He's got a premier job, makes about $6 mil and is signed thru 2022.

As for the others, the only two names that would concern me-and both are risks-are P.J. Fleck and Mike Norvell.

 

[Okeechobee Joe]

The guy I hope they don't get is Mike Norvell.

 

[Musclepug]

Rob Co (@musclepug54) tweeted at 7:37 PM on Sun, Nov 03, 2019:
This!
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[Gator By Marriage]

Here's the candidates:

Here's the bad news for Florida State after firing WiLLLLLLLie Taggart

1. James Franklin, Penn State – We wrote this morning on Yahoo Sports that Franklin is USC’s likely top target. It’s reasonable to think FSU fired Taggart so soon because they wanted a jump on top candidates. Franklin has the experience, skill and recruiting cachet to revive the Seminoles. Does he risk the administrative migraines? His buyout is only $1 million, but his salary is $5 million and FSU would have to overpay.

2. Mario Cristobal, Oregon – Andy Miller and the Seminole Boosters could get invited to the Eugene Chamber of Commerce for an Economic Stimulus Award if Cristobal goes there. They’d have to pay $9 million up until Jan. 14, in addition to the $3 million they paid for Taggart. Cristobal is a Florida native and has long coveted this job. Does he leave stable AD Rob Mullens and the burgeoning program for the unknown in Tallahassee?

3. Matt Rhule, Baylor – He’s certainly navigated some messes before in his career, as he revived Baylor in the wake of sanctions. Rhule has learned with Pat Kraft at Temple and Mack Rhoades at Baylor how important alignment is in a coaching job. The alignment at FSU is not immediately visible.

4. P.J. Fleck, Minnesota – His buyout is $4 million, which isn’t insurmountable. Fleck has made both Western Michigan (13-1 in 2016) and Minnesota (8-0) relevant in a four-year span by going undefeated deep into the season, which shows he can do more with less. It’s the first time either has been on the national stage in generations. What could he do with the talent and brand of FSU?

5. Matt Campbell, Iowa State – The $6 million buyout would be a factor. The question lingers as to whether Campbell would leave his Midwestern roots when a Big Ten or NFL job could come calling.

6. Mike Norvell, Memphis – Because all of the above coaches have stable situations, none would sprint to Tallahassee. Norvell loves Memphis and has been paid well above Group of Five market at $2.6 million, but this is the caliber of opportunity he’s been waiting for. The timing here is good for Norvell, as he just had the eyes of the college football world on the job he’s done at Memphis this weekend. Bonus for cash-strapped FSU: Norvell’s buyout is only $500,000.

7. Mark Stoops, Kentucky – Don’t be surprised if this name garners serious interest. Stoops spent three years at FSU earlier this decade and has shown he can run a capable and professional program. There’s not much sizzle to Stoops, but FSU needs to find stability more than sizzle.

8. Scott Satterfield, Louisville – Want a coach to come in and fix a chronically underachieving and undisciplined program? Well, Satterfield just did that at Louisville, taking over a 2-10 program and having them 5-3 this season. Does he aim higher? The buyout is $5 million, which isn’t untenable.

9. Bryan Harsin, Boise State – Seminoles officials saw up close what a Harsin team looks like, as the Broncos upset FSU in the opener this season. Harsin’s 78 percent winning percentage is among the elite in college football, and he clearly could instill the needed discipline and offensive polish. The biggest question: Could he jump from Boise to the deep South?

10. Luke Fickell, Cincinnati – He’s headed toward back-to-back 10-win season and brings football sensibilities that would resonate at FSU. This would be another culture leap, as Fickell has essentially never lived outside the state of Ohio. It’s hard to argue with a coach who has gone 18-3 the past two years.

11. Tony Elliott or Brent Venables, Clemson – If FSU were to go the assistant coach route, the first glance would be at Clemson. If they wanted an accomplished offensive mind, they’d look at Elliott, who has been the most coveted offensive coach the past few years in the sport. Venables has been notoriously picky, but a job the caliber of FSU could move him to change his mind.

12. Jim McElwain, Central Michigan -- While this name might be surprising, there were a number of Seminole brass who felt McElwain got a raw deal at Florida. He knows the state, and his recruiting was solid as head of the Gators. Also, who better to want to extract revenge on their biggest rival?

Any of these guys would be an upgrade, though I suspect at least half would be inclined to decline. Interesting tidbit about Franklin and USCw. Had not heard that one. Wonder what the effect of Willie’s firing will have on a schools like USCw; will they fire Helton sooner rather than later so as not to lose out on a preferred candidate?

 

[Zambo]

I think Todd Grantham is ready for his first head coaching job at FSU.

Thanks man, I just laughed out loud.

I've been out working in the garage all day and I come in to find this thread. As if the weekend couldn't get any worse.

 

[Zambo]

I suspect at least half would be inclined to decline.

Why isn't the "down" escalator called a de-escalator?

 

[Gator By Marriage]

Why isn't the "down" escalator called a de-escalator?

Why do fat chance and slim chance mean the same thing?

 

[gatormandan]

12. Jim McElwain, Central Michigan -- While this name might be surprising, there were a number of Seminole brass who felt McElwain got a raw deal at Florida. He knows the state, and his recruiting was solid as head of the Gators. Also, who better to want to extract revenge on their biggest rival?

:):)

 

[NovaGator]

Thrasher, Bense, Jim King, T.K., D’Alemberte, Don Tucker, and just about every other Speaker of the House for the last 30 years have been Nole grads

With that kind of backing, anyone who doubted that FSU could handle the buyout was living in a dream world.