Jaden Rashada joins powerhouse Arizona State; named starting QB as true freshman

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@pdizz22: tweet of the year

Not sure about the accuracy of this. Unless UF (I know it’s Gator Collective, but UF is easier to write) contractually agreed to indemnify a party, they wouldn’t be required to do so.

Just because UF benefits from the breach of the contract by Rashada, doesn’t mean we have to indemnify Rashada. Those contractual damages would be Rashada’s to eat. I’m done underestimating UF’s stupidity, but I doubt they’d be dumb enough to put a clause in Rashada’s deal indemnifying him for any suit arising from his previous deals with other schools

Now, UF could MAYBE be sued for some tortious interference of contractual relationship, but that’s a heck of a lot harder to prove.

I think Rashada realized that if you sign conflicting contracts, it usually doesn’t end well. He’s playing big boy games, with big boy contracts and money, but he’s been conspicuously silent. He’s hiding under mom’s skirt right now

He knows he messed up, and he’s trying to clean it up.
 

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IMO we should have told Rashada to enroll and keep his contract with life Wallet. I mean, he didn’t sign with Miami, that would be illegal. He signed with Life Wallet for his Name and image. He could still do that with the Gators. If there was any wording that it had to be as a result of him signing with Miami under current law that would be illegal. That would put the ball in Life Wallets court to cancel the deal themselves.

Problem solved.
 

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Not sure about the accuracy of this. Unless UF (I know it’s Gator Collective, but UF is easier to write) contractually agreed to indemnify a party, they wouldn’t be required to do so.

Just because UF benefits from the breach of the contract by Rashada, doesn’t mean we have to indemnify Rashada. Those contractual damages would be Rashada’s to eat. I’m done underestimating UF’s stupidity, but I doubt they’d be dumb enough to put a clause in Rashada’s deal indemnifying him for any suit arising from his previous deals with other schools

Now, UF could MAYBE be sued for some tortious interference of contractual relationship, but that’s a heck of a lot harder to prove.

I think Rashada realized that if you sign conflicting contracts, it usually doesn’t end well. He’s playing big boy games, with big boy contracts and money, but he’s been conspicuously silent. He’s hiding under mom’s skirt right now

He knows he messed up, and he’s trying to clean it up.
How much of that tweet is speculation? Is it now, reported by a credible source, we offered $7 million? Hope not. And from what it says above DEAL BREAKER in the tweet is true, can we reliably believe no agreement was signed? It does sound like the tweeter is saying we did offer to bail him out if scUM's NIL sued.
 

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the bigger issue if true, and whats beginning to be lost in in all this, is why in the cinnamon toast FCK is a pencil necked gumbi looking MFer getting 6/7 mil a year deals for doing absolutely nothing yet in college? :facepalm:
It’s not per year. The total said $7M over 4 years…which is still insane IMO.
 

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If anyone is creating these NIL deals as NOT being incentive based, they are fuching morons
 

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Sitting at my daughters basketball game here at Berkeley, one of the school admins was talking about our sitch to some of the other parents and how crazy NIL has made all this. When asked about Keeley and if he had any issues, she said “no, Saban makes his players earn their NIL endorsements through play, he doesn’t promise players anything like UF did with this kid”!

Sounds like whatever BJs the collective promised this kid ended up ****ing us instead. As I’ve stated before, if kids expect to get paid like this before even stepping foot on a field they can **** off, that’s a locker room nightmare waiting to happen.

That’s not true. Saban can’t tell a player that the player is prohibited from signing an NIL deal unless/until they hit certain metrics on the field. The courts have already given players the legal right to earn money off their NIL. If a player can score an endorsement with a company for $1,000,000 to appear in commercials or for showing up at taco stand grand openings, there’s nothing Nick can do to stop it.

Second, look no further than Bryce Young. Saban openly stated the kid had already inked $1m in deals before he ever stepped foot on campus…and Saban wasn’t bytching when he said it.
 

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It’s my understanding that there still cannot be true pay for play arrangements. I could be completely wrong here, but I think it’s still against the rules to either commit/sign with a school based on funds promised, or for the school to not give them whatever was promised if they don’t sign. Ironically, it was one of the funny parts regarding Rashada’s flip from miami. He was still signed as a client of Life Wallet according to what I read and so was still being compensated(though I’m sure much less than had he played there). Again, I could be incorrect. But I thought there had to be a distinction between NIL arrangements agreed upon, and actually being paid upfront for signing.

You’re way off base with this. NIL is Name/Image/Likeness. A big part of a player’s image is being a player at a particular school. For sake of discussion, let’s say QB at Miami. Being the Miami QB is a huge part of the player’s image. If a business or collective can’t stipulate in the agreement that it’s contingent upon being on the UM roster, then that pretty much blows up the entire deal. For example, if the kid quits the football team but stays enrolled at UM and lays on the beach every day, the other party to the contract isn’t obligated to keep paying him…they’re not getting what they contracted for so bye bye contract. Same thing goes if the kid goes to UF instead of Miami. You certainly don’t expect the local Miami restaurant to continue to pay the kid to use his face on TV commercials? The fact that he’s a UF player instead of a UM player means his endorsement of the restaurant is most likely severely diminished, if not now an outright liability to the restaurant because his image is not the same as when the agreement was reached, so bye bye endorsement deal.
 

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You’re way off base with this. NIL is Name/Image/Likeness. A big part of a player’s image is being a player at a particular school. For sake of discussion, let’s say QB at Miami. Being the Miami QB is a huge part of the player’s image. If a business or collective can’t stipulate in the agreement that it’s contingent upon being on the UM roster, then that pretty much blows up the entire deal. For example, if the kid quits the football team but stays enrolled at UM and lays on the beach every day, the other party to the contract isn’t obligated to keep paying him…they’re not getting what they contracted for so bye bye contract. Same thing goes if the kid goes to UF instead of Miami. You certainly don’t expect the local Miami restaurant to continue to pay the kid to use his face on TV commercials? The fact that he’s a UF player instead of a UM player means his endorsement of the restaurant is most likely severely diminished, if not now an outright liability to the restaurant because his image is not the same as when the agreement was reached, so bye bye endorsement deal.

Yes, I understand the premise behind NIL. And I may be wrong in some of my understanding. But it was reported and discussed here as well as on cane boards that JR was still a client of Life Wallet and couldn’t just stop getting paid completely. I’m sure Ruiz had it incentivized and that was where the bulk would’ve been made. But it wasn’t a case of dropping him based on his flip to us. The point is it isn’t even about name, image and likeness at this point(which was always going to happen). It’s pay for play, little more. They just can’t openly say it.
 

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Just had an interesting breakfast conversation with an ASU guy. Said Rashada visiting there this weekend, that he doesn’t think they can afford him, and that his Dad (a former ASU player) is a known problem and likely behind all the issues we had with him here.
 

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Yes, I understand the premise behind NIL. And I may be wrong in some of my understanding. But it was reported and discussed here as well as on cane boards that JR was still a client of Life Wallet and couldn’t just stop getting paid completely. I’m sure Ruiz had it incentivized and that was where the bulk would’ve been made. But it wasn’t a case of dropping him based on his flip to us. The point is it isn’t even about name, image and likeness at this point(which was always going to happen). It’s pay for play, little more. They just can’t openly say it.
A breach of contract for pay for play.

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