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I don't think us being crappy has anything to do with it. I think we just don't have good recruiters. Gray seems to be a really good recruiter. And Mac is a really good recruiter. Other than that?
If being crappy had anything to do with it we would've not been able to pull in that stellar wide receiver class last year with that crappy product on the field.
I've never seen a DC with crappier recruiting skills than ours.
Love your posts, sofla, but Newton was a three star
Same discussion about offering a three star we are having here. Fourth star immediately thereafter, people said B/C uF offered, and fifth star during. My short term memory is suspect, but this isn't short term.
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I recall Dalvin Cook and Shavar Manual being 'committed' to us then pulling the surprise switch. Those both involved F$U and some shady recruiting tactics, but they are what they are - they trolled us and weren't really commits. Other than that, what other 4/5* did we have that were genuinely committed to UF but didn't sign?
On the 2/3* kids 'committed' but still looking around <<presses turbo pumper mode>> it is a logical plan B for them as they likely know they should be a plan B for UF. If we get a better kid, this one needs a place to switch to.
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I recall Dalvin Cook and Shavar Manual being 'committed' to us then pulling the surprise switch. Those both involved F$U and some shady recruiting tactics, but they are what they are - they trolled us and weren't really commits. Other than that, what other 4/5* did we have that were genuinely committed to UF but didn't sign?
On the 2/3* kids 'committed' but still looking around <<presses turbo pumper mode>> it is a logical plan B for them as they likely know they should be a plan B for UF. If we get a better kid, this one needs a place to switch to.
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Shaver flipped because he wasn't going to qualify for UF. He is still working on getting qualified for FSU
http://seminolepost.blog.palmbeachp...-signee-shavar-manuel-working-on-eligibility/
I'd love to see him fail to qualify, go JuCo, fail again, and eventually get flushed out of football all together.
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Shaver flipped because he wasn't going to qualify for UF. He is still working on getting qualified for FSU
http://seminolepost.blog.palmbeachp...-signee-shavar-manuel-working-on-eligibility/
Shavar should have never been the only option. We didn't sign any DTs the year before. We needed to sign FVKKING FOUR.... or five!!!! (In a Sabanesque defense a true DT/NT can play all three spots.) WTF are they thinking? DTs take two to three years to get big enough to play in the SEC.The staff still should have had a Plan B kid on the hook somewhere. I'd rather sign a DT committed to an FAU or UCF vs signing zero DTs at all.
And we didn't know he was a dummazz? Why not?Shaver flipped because he wasn't going to qualify for UF. He is still working on getting qualified for FSU
http://seminolepost.blog.palmbeachp...-signee-shavar-manuel-working-on-eligibility/
And we didn't know he was a dummazz? Why not?
If anyone looks at Bama's classes, they'll see that they always recruit multiple DT's. Seems like about 3 a cycle. Hard to project DT's, so you need numbers. I know you say it all the time.Shavar should have never been the only option. We didn't sign any DTs the year before. We needed to sign FVKKING FOUR.... or five!!!! (In a Sabanesque defense a true DT/NT can play all three spots.) WTF are they thinking? DTs take two to three years to get big enough to play in the SEC.
Thanks. Unlike some politicians I am willing to accept the written word. I still don't feel I am wrong by much. There has never been a question that he was a five star when he signed--a very big recruit. But he started out as a three star and rose. I see he was a four star when he committed but I would still be willing to lose money betting that he was a 3 star when offered. I remember people saying (joking?) that he was bumped up because offered. The rating services don't make it easy to find the history of their ratings, but you found he was a 4 star when he committed. Can you find his rating when offered? The point to all this being that rating services change their evaluations--sometimes by a great deal. Thanks again for the correctionI remember him as being a pretty big recruit. Where do you see him being a three-star when we recruited him? He was a five-star recruit on every recruiting service.
When he committed to us he was a four star on both scout and rivals. 247 did not exist back then. I don't think ESPN recruiting did either.
http://www.scout.com/college/florida/story/565839-cameron-newton-says-i-m-going-to-be-a-gator
The rivals article saying he is a four star. It's an insider article but here's the link. Click the news hyperlink. You'll need to scroll down. He committed to us on 9/7/2006 as a four star quarterback. He ended up being the number 2 overall QB in the class. I think Scout had Brantley rated higher.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/maple/41356
If anyone looks at Bama's classes, they'll see that they always recruit multiple DT's. Seems like about 3 a cycle. Hard to project DT's, so you need numbers. I know you say it all the time.
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Pretty much. Like you said, you can trust rush end recruiting some, but not DT's or 3-4 endsLike Bama we should have 8-10 down linemen every cycle. it's a numbers game, not all kids grow into their bodies. We haven't done that in the 6 years prior to McElwain.
Yeah, and even if they are good, they get hurt. 300lb men bashing on each other tend to do that.Pretty much. Like you said, you can trust rush end recruiting some, but not DT's or 3-4 ends