Recruiting Official Recruiting Thread for the stretch run

[GatorBenji]

I just want to give muschamp a good ol

 

[GatorFin]

IAKOW Recruiting ‏@IAKOWRecruiting 4m4 minutes ago
I've spoken with three recruits, two of whom are committed to UF. All three said Will Muschamp negatively recruits against Florida

Rat ****lng B*stard

 

[GatorBenji]

It's unbelievable. He creates a disaster and then uses it to recruit against us. Anyone who even remotely defends this pos should be banned for life.

His nuthuggers should be ashamed of themselves

 

[Gator Wray]

It's unbelievable. He creates a disaster and then uses it to recruit against us. Anyone who even remotely defends this pos should be banned for life.

I give him Two years at Auburn. He will not be there the next time we play Auburn. Just wait and see.

 

[ATXGator]

It's unbelievable. He creates a disaster and then uses it to recruit against us. Anyone who even remotely defends this pos should be banned for life.

I take back everything nice I ever said about him

 

[MJMGator]

It's unbelievable. He creates a disaster and then uses it to recruit against us. Anyone who even remotely defends this pos should be banned for life.

It's a short list, but I could provide it if needed.

 

[GatorJ]

I can remember all the comments when people said they were really worried in Aug/Sept/Oct and even Nov. Comments like "I didn't know today was national signing day" and other rude remarks.

Damn.

Yep. And many people kept saying that recruiting wasn't that important. The kids who want to be Gators will come.

 

[GatorTAG]

I think the important thing is that the recruits know it and admit it. Muschamp might shoot himself in the foot if he's not careful. He's probably coming off as a butt-hurt turd to some of these kids.

 

[ATXGator]

InAllKindsOfWeather ‏@AllKindsWeather 3m3 minutes ago
Just remember, Will Muschamp: insulting the school you weren't good enough to stay at is a really bad idea: https://www.inallkindsofweather.com/blog/memo-to-will-muschamp-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you-heres-why.html …

 

[The Original DC]

You're underestimating the damage caused by the previous staff and the past couple of years. You don't just magically rebound in the mind of a recruit. And I'm not singling you out, because I too probably down played it a bit. Yes, we're the University of Florida, but that has been more of a negative than a positive for most of the past 4 years. The reason Meyer was able to step right in, create excitement, and pull out a pretty good 2005 class, is that we hadn't let Zook--and by extension UF--bottom out. We were UF, and just needed a fresh face. Not the case this time. I'd venture to say 75% of the bigger names essentially wrote us off after 2013, and were only willing to reconsider if it turned out to be a fluke year and we rebounded this past fall. That didn't happen. That's why we're losing New Smyrna kids to Arkansas. They were basically lost a year ago. And that's not even factoring in that the coach who some had developed a relationship with is now actively recruiting against us--swell guy that he is.

Only thing we can do now is hope some chips fall our way, and make do with what we have. JM, kind of like Spurrier in '90, is going to have turn our players into winners, and UF back into a place kid want to play.

The thing that confounds me about what you are describing, is the fact that we've seen other catastrophic coaching firings and losing seasons at other programs, yet those programs never struggled to the extent we currently are in recruiting. As effed-up as Muschamp and the last two seasons have been, Tennessee's stretch of the Kiffin disaster, followed by the Dooley disaster, followed by a long, embarrassing search where they were publicly turned down by several, including Muschamp, Strong and Cutcliffe, then a "best of what's left" hiring in Butch Jones, yet even in the middle of all that, they had respectable recruiting classes during those years, 20th, 17th and 10th if I recall. We're 95th! And there are other examples.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

It's unbelievable. He creates a disaster and then uses it to recruit against us. Anyone who even remotely defends this pos should be banned for life.

That sounds familiar.

There are still people here slobbing on Chimp knob.

 

[soflagator]

I think the important thing is that the recruits know it and admit it. Muschamp might shoot himself in the foot if he's not careful. He's probably coming off as a butt-hurt turd to some of these kids.

Perhaps his aim is as bad as his coaching ability, in which case, we can put this matter to rest.

 

[The Original DC]

IAKOW Recruiting ‏@IAKOWRecruiting 4m4 minutes ago
I've spoken with three recruits, two of whom are committed to UF. All three said Will Muschamp negatively recruits against Florida

To any normal human being paying attention, as in parents of recruits, this has to be an instant turn off to Muschamp. Makes me sick just thinking about it. It's an instant glimpse into his character and I hope recruits are seeing through it. I'd respond with "weren't you in charge for the last 4 years?!"

 

[GatorFin]

The ONLY logical option really does seem to be the mega commitathon Signing day extravaganza route. Otherwise it flat out doesn't make sense.

 

[GatorTAG]

The thing that confounds me about what you are describing, is the fact that we've seen other catastrophic coaching firings and losing seasons at other programs, yet those programs never struggled to the extent we currently are in recruiting. As effed-up as Muschamp and the last two seasons have been, Tennessee's stretch of the Kiffin disaster, followed by the Dooley disaster, followed by a long, embarrassing search where they were publicly turned down by several, including Muschamp, Strong and Cutcliffe, then a "best of what's left" hiring in Butch Jones, yet even in the middle of all that, they had respectable recruiting classes during those years, 20th, 17th and 10th if I recall. We're 95th! And there are other examples.

Also, we have huge lists of official and unofficial visits the next 3 weekends. If our brand is so damaged why are we garnering so much attention? And if you were thinking about coming here but hadn't committed yet, I'm sure seeing all those recruits coming in would make you a little nervous.

 

[soflagator]

The thing that confounds me about what you are describing, is the fact that we've seen other catastrophic coaching firings and losing seasons at other programs, yet those programs never struggled to the extent we currently are in recruiting. As effed-up as Muschamp and the last two seasons have been, Tennessee's stretch of the Kiffin disaster, followed by the Dooley disaster, followed by a long, embarrassing search where they were publicly turned down by several, including Muschamp, Strong and Cutcliffe, then a "best of what's left" hiring in Butch Jones, yet even in the middle of all that, they had respectable recruiting classes during those years, 20th, 17th and 10th if I recall. We're 95th! And there are other examples.

Well, to be honest, Kiffin was 9-4(I think) in his first campaign and had a ton of EEs's that were locked in by the time he left. So Dooley inherited a solid class and simply had to keep a few in the fold, while grabbing a few new names. With the success that they'd had in 2009(beating uga, almost upsetting us and Alabama) they were actually trending up. Now you could make a case about his first class, but I think he just got a handful of players to commit or flip and then things launched from there. He's a solid recruiter.

But again, they weren't 4-8, losing to GSU. I mean Wyoming was bad, but even they aren't GSU bad. And to their credit, that was the final straw for Fulmer. That was the only point where they flirted with or 2013 debacle. Otherwise, they kept some measure of respectability. We waited, when all logic said we shouldn't. It's biting us.

And as I said, I think we can still get into the 20s, even if only based on volume with fillers. I just don't see much beyond that.

 

[LagoonGator68]

So I'm guessing there was never a clause in WM's contract saying he can't pursue our recruits

There is a clause but it is negated if Auburn was recruiting the player before Chump was fired.

 

[GatorJ]

Also Meatchicken is 97th right now. So if you want a comparison. There we go.

 

[The Original DC]

Well, to be honest, Kiffin was 9-4(I think) in his first campaign and had a ton of EEs's that were locked in by the time he left. So Dooley inherited a solid class and simply had to keep a few in the fold, while grabbing a few new names. With the success that they'd had in 2009(beating uga, almost upsetting us and Alabama) they were actually trending up. Now you could make a case about his first class, but I think he just got a handful of players to commit or flip and then things launched from there. He's a solid recruiter.

But again, they weren't 4-8, losing to GSU. I mean Wyoming was bad, but even they aren't GSU bad. And to their credit, that was the final straw for Fulmer. That was the only point where they flirted with or 2013 debacle. Otherwise, they kept some measure of respectability. We waited, when all logic said we shouldn't. It's biting us.

And as I said, I think we can still get into the 20s, even if only based on volume with fillers. I just don't see much beyond that.

Kiffin was 7-6 and his departure from UT was awful timing for the program. Then they had three straight seasons of 6-7, 5-7 and 5-7. 4-8 was bad, but not near as bad as a four-year stretch of 20-29.

 

[TNgator20]

Just read some not good news on GC from Spivey about Cowart....by looks of that article it looks like we are no longer in the picture? What tha heck just happened?!?!?!