OSU crushes Michigan like bugs, ending playoff hopes

[CapitalGator02]

We see the casual fan suffers from denial too. They don't really want a legitimate national champion.

If they really believed a non preferred 5 conference champion would get blown out by the "big boys" then they wouldn't care if they made the playoffs or not. It would be no big deal.

In fact if they really believed it would be a blow out, the opposite reaction would occur and they would be begging a non preferred 5 conference champ to get in, since it would be a guaranteed win.

Again it is fear that causes panic in the brainwashed mind of the casual fan. Fear that the myths will be exposed and the truth realised. That all division 1 programs that win their conference are worthy of a playoff spot.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Your logic would only have validity if the teams with easier schedules than UCF were also undefeated. But that's not reality. Therefore, we must give credit where credit is due.

Any effort to discredit UCF (assuming they beat an explosive Memphis team again) or any other non preferred 5 conference champion, is simply delusional. That delusion is created by fear. Fear of having all the injunctions we've been taught by experts our whole lives be exposed as false.

Zodiac is Golden Dahlia's sock puppet.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Your logic would only have validity if the teams with easier schedules than UCF were also undefeated. But that's not reality. Therefore, we must give credit where credit is due.

Any effort to discredit UCF (assuming they beat an explosive Memphis team again) or any other non preferred 5 conference champion, is simply delusional. That delusion is created by fear. Fear of having all the injunctions we've been taught by experts our whole lives be exposed as false.

You speak of logic, but still haven't addressed the facts as presented. I give them credit for being undefeated playing a list of what UF would call paycheck games. Where we pay the other team to come in and take their asswhipping and leave. It wasn't that long ago UCF was one of those teams.

What is delusional, that UCF doesn't by their resume deserve a seat at the table? You have yet to address that, their resume. You keep on talking about their conference which is a bunch of also rans. There is nothing delusional about it, the playoff is for the 4 best teams in college football. It is true their resume doesn't have a loss, but it also doesn't have a single signature win. Not one. Their best win is Memphis, who they struggled with twice this season.

 

[Zodiac]

You speak of logic, but still haven't addressed the facts as presented. I give them credit for being undefeated playing a list of what UF would call paycheck games. Where we pay the other team to come in and take their asswhipping and leave. It wasn't that long ago UCF was one of those teams.

What is delusional, that UCF doesn't by their resume deserve a seat at the table? You have yet to address that, their resume. You keep on talking about their conference which is a bunch of also rans. There is nothing delusional about it, the playoff is for the 4 best teams in college football. It is true their resume doesn't have a loss, but it also doesn't have a single signature win. Not one. Their best win is Memphis, who they struggled with twice this season.

Their resume consists of 25 straight wins including one over the only team to beat Alabama in forever. Plenty of schools have played even easier schedules and failed mightily. At some point we have to acknowledge this is a team that needs an upgrade in competition and give them a shot at the "big boys." The real big boys like Alabama that won't play them in the regular season.

I would wager they get that win streak snapped in emphatic fashion. But it doesn't matter what we think. It has to be done on the field to be legitimate, not talked about on message boards.

 

[oxrageous]

It has to be done on the field to be legitimate, not talked about on message boards.

Personally, I think it should be discussed on this message board perpetually. Bring your friends.

 

[Back Alley Gator]

Why does any of that HAVE to happen? None of it HAS to happen. They can continue to play their weak schedule in their weak conference and bitch about being treated like a weak team in a weak conference playing a weak schedule and the rest of the world can go on ignoring them like we've done for the last 100 years.

 

[MJMGator]

Their resume consists of 25 straight wins including one over the only team to beat Alabama in forever. Plenty of schools have played even easier schedules and failed mightily. At some point we have to acknowledge this is a team that needs an upgrade in competition and give them a shot at the "big boys." The real big boys like Alabama that won't play them in the regular season.

I would wager they get that win streak snapped in emphatic fashion. But it doesn't matter what we think. It has to be done on the field to be legitimate, not talked about on message boards.

They won 25 straight this season?

 

[TheDouglas78]

Their resume consists of 25 straight wins including one over the only team to beat Alabama in forever. Plenty of schools have played even easier schedules and failed mightily. At some point we have to acknowledge this is a team that needs an upgrade in competition and give them a shot at the "big boys." The real big boys like Alabama that won't play them in the regular season.

I would wager they get that win streak snapped in emphatic fashion. But it doesn't matter what we think. It has to be done on the field to be legitimate, not talked about on message boards.

No they have 11 wins... 2017 has no barring on their resume for 2018. This has already been addressed. No one is saying they don't need an upgrade in competition, they are the ones to blame for that though. So Alabama opened the season against FSU, Fresno State, and Colorado State but they are scared of UCF. UCF is the same tier as Fresno States and Colorado States of the world and a tier FSU. But yes, the big boys are scared of UCF....

 

[Zodiac]

Programs like Alabama have lived off past successes to garner favoritism in the polls, so why shouldn't everyone else?

UCF would most likely get destroyed in a playoff setting. Wouldn't be the first massacre in these playoffs nor the last.

When you're record is undefeated and you're carrying championship hardware you deserve a playoff spot. You earn that right to get spanked and humiliated in front of millions.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Programs like Alabama have lived off past successes to garner favoritism in the polls, so why shouldn't everyone else?

Again were you bring in an argument, that is disproven and you drop.... Alabama also plays a schedule that backs up that favoritism, UCF doesn't. Again, what is UCF best wins of 2017, the compare them to the best wins of the other teams are those wins in the same conversation?

UCF would most likely get destroyed in a playoff setting. Wouldn't be the first massacre in these playoffs nor the last.

They haven't proven they are one of the four best teams. With an undefeated schedule it should be easier, but they didn't play anyone of note.

When you're record is undefeated and you're carrying championship hardware you deserve a playoff spot. You earn that right to get spanked and humiliated in front of millions.

They won the AAC. Would you say that championship hardware is the same as the SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, or Pac-12. Hell you could make an argument it isn't as impressive as wining the Mountain West Conference or C-USA.

 

[Zodiac]

Nobody can prove they aren't one of the top 4 teams. This is the whole problem with the mythical system in place. In this system playoff matchups are decided by subjective judging criteria and not an objective, fact based protocol.

A biased subjective system will never identify the four best teams and make a playoff out of it. Never. It's delusional to think it could.

 

[URGatorBait]

Nobody can prove they aren't one of the top 4 teams.

Top 4 teams don't give up 33, and 36 points to Austin Peay, and FAU respectively.

 

[MJMGator]

Nobody can prove they aren't one of the top 4 teams. This is the whole problem with the mythical system in place. In this system playoff matchups are decided by subjective judging criteria and not an objective, fact based protocol.

A biased subjective system will never identify the four best teams and make a playoff out of it. Never. It's delusional to think it could.

No one can prove any school isn’t one of the top 4. All you can go off is their resume and the eye test. UCF fails at both.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Nobody can prove they aren't one of the top 4 teams. This is the whole problem with the mythical system in place. In this system playoff matchups are decided by subjective judging criteria and not an objective, fact based protocol.

A biased subjective system will never identify the four best teams and make a playoff out of it. Never. It's delusional to think it could.

you complain about subjective nature of things, when the data/facts are brought forth you do not address them. You still have yet to address their resume, what about their resume... what they have accomplished as part of the 2018 season puts them above the 4 teams that have been selected?

 

[Zodiac]

I'll say it again. An objective playoff system would consist of only conference champions. You win your conference you win a playoff spot. Every team understands before the season starts what is needed to be achieved. Fail and you have only yourself to blame. No crying after the fact.

The trash system in place now guarantees another mythical champion and isn't any better than the rest of the exceptionally flawed systems before it. Still left with no legitimacy.

 

[TheDouglas78]

I'll say it again. An objective playoff system would consist of only conference champions. You win your conference you win a playoff spot. Every team understands before the season starts what is needed to be achieved. Fail and you have only yourself to blame. No crying after the fact.

The trash system in place now guarantees another mythical champion and isn't any better than the rest of the exceptionally flawed systems before it. Still left with no legitimacy.

Which is why most of us believe ND doesn't belong. But that wouldn't put UCF in either.

 

[Zodiac]

I am also a proponent of the NCAA downsizing its division 1 considerably in order to produce a more competitive season and worthwhile championship. The more programs you have the more watered down your product becomes.

In another thread I proposed downsizing to 24 current division 1 schools based off all time wins. This is somewhat arbitrary but it does reward those with the combination of seniority and historical division 1 success.

You would have two divisions of 12 or four divisions of 6. Division winners would battle for the championship.

Alas, it is something the masses don't want. They are content with the overall lack of competitveness week in and week out. They want their useless bowl games and rivalries instead of something much greater.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Top 4 teams don't give up 33, and 36 points to Austin Peay, and FAU respectively.

You cant prove that Austin Peay isnt a power house. They arent in the playoff either.

 

[URGatorBait]

You cant prove that Austin Peay isnt a power house. They arent in the playoff either.

 

[oxrageous]

I am also a proponent of the NCAA downsizing its division 1 considerably in order to produce a more competitive season and worthwhile championship. The more programs you have the more watered down your product becomes.

In another thread I proposed downsizing to 24 current division 1 schools based off all time wins. This is somewhat arbitrary but it does reward those with the combination of seniority and historical division 1 success.

You would have two divisions of 12 or four divisions of 6. Division winners would battle for the championship.

Alas, it is something the masses don't want. They are content with the overall lack of competitveness week in and week out. They want their useless bowl games and rivalries instead of something much greater.

Zodiac makes some interesting points, I see both sides of this. It is a weird system that half of the teams have no chance at a playoff spot even if they win all their games. I think they should separate those teams into a different division where they can be eligible for their own NC.

The other idea that gives them a chance is my 64-team playoff.