Pulse on Napier

[Spurdog98]

SOS would have Toney packing already. Can you imagine this D against the 95 Nebraska team?

 

[78]

SOS would have Toney packing already. Can you imagine this D against the 95 Nebraska team?

SOS tolerated Zook running the D for three miserable seasons before he demoted him to ST.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

In order to trigger the maximum amount of people, I will state I was completely satisfied with the season.

archives here I come....

 

[AuggieDosta]

SOS tolerated Zook running the D for three miserable seasons before he demoted him to ST.

...where he excelled and Bob Pruett held Nebraska to 62 points before SOS decided to go with Stoops.

 

[78]

And Bob Pruett held Nebraska to 62 points before SOS decided to go with Stoops.

And FSU's pass rush wasn't neutralized until SOS finally gave in to the shotgun. Plenty of examples of where, in time, good things came.

 

[CU-UF]

My take,
I am surprised by the significant number of fans that are such absolutists about results. Meaning if there are not 8-9+ wins in his first year he is a complete failure and on to the next one. The fact of the matter is UF over the last 20 years has churned through more coaches than any other high-profile P5 program. A popular saying here and elsewhere is that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. In this context, like it or not, the best course for the program is to actually give him an opportunity to succeed by taking a wider picture of program performance than just W/Ls. That doesn't mean that performance on the field is not subject to criticism, but so many rather than constructive criticism, frame their criticism as a means of justifying their belief/position that Napier is a failure or was never the right coach(despite not even completing his first year). Some go so far as such trivial things like, he just isnt animated enough, or he congratulated our opponent through some coach-speak or the selective memory route, SOS would have never.... No one would give two craps if he posted 10 wins. These are not criticisms but just a manifestation of internal biases.

While not totally unexpected, the 6-6 season is still disappointing, but there were periods of visible improvement against a very challenging first-year schedule. The off-season and obviously second year is going to be determinant for me. If Napier is truly a "process guy" then I would expect some serious self-evaluation and tweeking of what he is doing as head of the program. I highly doubt it will be as extreme as hiring an OC or firing DC, but I would expect some recognition of the issues and some moves to address them. If he says its all fine and we need to try harder, I would have another flag in the negative camp for him.

On a sad side note, it looks like for at least the next 3 years, its Georgia's world and we are living in it.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

Winning or losing the bowl game doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

That's mullenesque....You go out there and win every battle on every play on every down on every drive in every quarter of every half of every game .....it's how dominance and a winning mindset are formed and ingrained into a program.......What did Meyer used to expect from his players? 5-6 seconds of relentless effort on every play.

 

[AuggieDosta]

My take,
I am surprised by the significant number of fans that are such absolutists about results. Meaning if there are not 8-9+ wins in his first year he is a complete failure and on to the next one. The fact of the matter is UF over the last 20 years has churned through more coaches than any other high-profile P5 program. A popular saying here and elsewhere is that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. In this context, like it or not, the best course for the program is to actually give him an opportunity to succeed by taking a wider picture of program performance than just W/Ls. That doesn't mean that performance on the field is not subject to criticism, but so many rather than constructive criticism, frame their criticism as a means of justifying their belief/position that Napier is a failure or was never the right coach(despite not even completing his first year). Some go so far as such trivial things like, he just isnt animated enough, or he congratulated our opponent through some coach-speak or the selective memory route, SOS would have never.... No one would give two craps if he posted 10 wins. These are not criticisms but just a manifestation of internal biases.

While not totally unexpected, the 6-6 season is still disappointing, but there were periods of visible improvement against a very challenging first-year schedule. The off-season and obviously second year is going to be determinant for me. If Napier is truly a "process guy" then I would expect some serious self-evaluation and tweeking of what he is doing as head of the program. I highly doubt it will be as extreme as hiring an OC or firing DC, but I would expect some recognition of the issues and some moves to address them. If he says its all fine and we need to try harder, I would have another flag in the negative camp for him.

On a sad side note, it looks like for at least the next 3 years, its Georgia's world and we are living in it.

Best post of the year and one that perfectly expresses the situation at UF and my feelings.

 

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Another example of how it takes time is tight end. Napier by all accounts appears committed to implementing the 12-man attack through simultaneous use of "move" and "attached" tight ends to create matchup problems for smaller, more mobile defenses adapted to the spread.

You'd hardly know it by the lack of tight end use this year. He doesn't have the personnel. Yet.

 

[FireFoley]

My take,
I am surprised by the significant number of fans that are such absolutists about results. Meaning if there are not 8-9+ wins in his first year he is a complete failure and on to the next one. The fact of the matter is UF over the last 20 years has churned through more coaches than any other high-profile P5 program. A popular saying here and elsewhere is that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. In this context, like it or not, the best course for the program is to actually give him an opportunity to succeed by taking a wider picture of program performance than just W/Ls. That doesn't mean that performance on the field is not subject to criticism, but so many rather than constructive criticism, frame their criticism as a means of justifying their belief/position that Napier is a failure or was never the right coach(despite not even completing his first year). Some go so far as such trivial things like, he just isnt animated enough, or he congratulated our opponent through some coach-speak or the selective memory route, SOS would have never.... No one would give two craps if he posted 10 wins. These are not criticisms but just a manifestation of internal biases.

While not totally unexpected, the 6-6 season is still disappointing, but there were periods of visible improvement against a very challenging first-year schedule. The off-season and obviously second year is going to be determinant for me. If Napier is truly a "process guy" then I would expect some serious self-evaluation and tweeking of what he is doing as head of the program. I highly doubt it will be as extreme as hiring an OC or firing DC, but I would expect some recognition of the issues and some moves to address them. If he says its all fine and we need to try harder, I would have another flag in the negative camp for him.

On a sad side note, it looks like for at least the next 3 years, its Georgia's world and we are living in it.

Good post. But I would subscribe that the definition of the insanity at UF is keeping the same incompetent AD or AD's year after year and expecting a different result. That is where the insanity truly lies.

 

[LaylaGator]

For the record, I have not seen a single person call for the firing of Sunbelt Billy at the end of Season 1. We all acknowledge that he is ours for the foreseeable future, but we can also acknowledge that he does a pisspoor job of gameday coaching at the same time.

 

[78]

Gatorbait25 has already volunteered Napier's name for lead shift cook at the Ocala Waffle House.

 

[Gatorbait25]

And FSU's pass rush wasn't neutralized until SOS finally gave in to the shotgun. Plenty of examples of where, in time, good things came.

Zook was Bud Foster compared to Patty cake

 

[AuggieDosta]

Good post. But I would subscribe that the definition of the insanity at UF is keeping the same incompetent AD or AD's year after year and expecting a different result. That is where the insanity truly lies.

You can't change them every year.

 

[78]

Zook was Bud Foster compared to Patty cake

Zook certainly didn't hurt for athletes on D. We had them.

 

[AuggieDosta]

For the record, I have not seen a single person call for the firing of Sunbelt Billy at the end of Season 1. We all acknowledge that he is ours for the foreseeable future, but we can also acknowledge that he does a pisspoor job of gameday coaching at the same time.

Then you weren't reading posts on this website. There have been several ridiculous posts proclaiming exactly that.

 

[LaylaGator]

Then you weren't reading posts on this website. There have been several ridiculous posts proclaiming exactly that.

Bump a single post where someone said Billy should be fired now.

 

[AuggieDosta]

Bump a single post where someone said Billy should be fired now.

I think you have the same search capability as me.

 

[LaylaGator]

I can't bump something that's not there.

 

[cover2]

Good post. But I would subscribe that the definition of the insanity at UF is keeping the same incompetent AD or AD's year after year and expecting a different result. That is where the insanity truly lies.

You do realize that if Foley expires anytime soon, the FBI already has you as a prime suspect.