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What did you plead?

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That's also when 57.5% meant a lot more.... with the rules skewed towards offense 62% is the low bar for average. Now you can't hit a quarterback, touch a wide receiver, and the offenses are spread like never before. Wuerfell in todays college football would be a 70% passer.
SOS was hitting for 62% in '66, Wayne Peace was passing for over 70% in the 80s. Good is still good and sucks still sucks. 57% sucks and always has. Just sayin.'
 

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SOS was hitting for 62% in '66, Wayne Peace was passing for over 70% in the 80s. Good is still good and sucks still sucks. 57% sucks and always has. Just sayin.'

Steve Spurrier:
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Year
School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
1964
Florida SEC QB 10 65 114 57.0 943 8.3 5.4 6 10 126.3
1965 Florida SEC QB 10 148 287 51.6 1893 6.6 5.5 14 13 114.0
1966 Florida SEC QB 10 179 291 61.5 2012 6.9 6.8 16 8 132.2

Wayne Peace:
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School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
1980
Florida SEC QB 9 91 180 50.6 1271 7.1 5.4 5 9 109.0
1981 Florida SEC QB 11 159 273 58.2 1803 6.6 5.6 11 11 119.0
1982 Florida SEC QB 11 174 246 70.7 2053 8.3 7.2 8 10 143.4
1983 Florida SEC QB 11 186 292 63.7 2079 7.1

Danny Wuerfell:

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School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
1993
Florida SEC QB 11 159 273 58.2 2230 8.2 8.1 22 10 146.1
1994 Florida SEC QB 12 132 212 62.3 1754 8.3 8.1 18 9 151.3
1995 Florida SEC QB 11 210 325 64.6 3266 10.0 10.8 35 10 178.4
1996 Florida SEC QB 12 207 360 57.5 3625 10.1 10.6 39 13 170.6
 

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He has thrown several other great deep passes. Not his fault if Copeland has dropped them (he has) or if UGA takes a PTI so we don’t get the ball inside the 5 in 2018. There have also been several practice videos showing great throws deep.

Going simply by completions is a bit of a misnomer. I’m not saying it isn’t important, but am I going to say a great throw isn’t a great throw because of a drop or a PTI? No.

I actually agree with this. there's no problem with EJ's arm strength. obviously is running abilities are not in doubt, his accuracy is what I'm not sure of yet.

EJ's arm strength is definitely top notch. But, practice throws are nearly irrelevant to me. Also, I'm not suggesting he will not turn out to be a great deep ball passer. But, to categorize him as a great deep ball passer when he has completed one ever over three years (and his second longest was not a well thrown deep ball) is pumperiffic. Looking to two additional incompletions in 2018 doesn't change that either. It is all just too small of a sample size.
 

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He has thrown several other great deep passes. Not his fault if Copeland has dropped them (he has) or if UGA takes a PTI so we don’t get the ball inside the 5 in 2018. There have also been several practice videos showing great throws deep.

Going simply by completions is a bit of a misnomer. I’m not saying it isn’t important, but am I going to say a great throw isn’t a great throw because of a drop or a PTI? No.
Hate to agree with Donk, but you say that Emory's long ball would open up the run game. Until Copeland and our WRs start catching them, that's not likely to happen.
 

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Hate to agree with Donk, but you say that Emory's long ball would open up the run game. Until Copeland and our WRs start catching them, that's not likely to happen.
Arm strength doesnt open up the longball when the OC calls options and screen passes. If you are a DC and you arent crashing your safeties into the box (wait til he calls the play) then you are an idiot.

And longball doesnt open up anything in a run-first offense. Youre thinking Spurrier, long ball opened up the draw run game. Mullinz is the exact opposite. Thinks you run run run run run to "open" up the short passing game.
 
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Hate to agree with Donk, but you say that Emory's long ball would open up the run game. Until Copeland and our WRs start catching them, that's not likely to happen.

I haven't said anything about it opening up the running game. I was just agreeing with the sentiment he throws a nice long ball. In fact, I think in the main post I said it would be his improvement or lack thereof in the intermediate passing game that would dictate the offense as without that the D can just stack 8 in the box. Intermediate passing in the middle of the field impacts how the D uses its linebackers.

And yes, they will have to catch them more. Copeland's drops are also an issue coming into the season as he's had a few over the years. Granted, he's had some great catches like his TD against Carolina in 2019.
 

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I haven't said anything about it opening up the running game. I was just agreeing with the sentiment he throws a nice long ball. In fact, I think in the main post I said it would be his improvement or lack thereof in the intermediate passing game that would dictate the offense as without that the D can just stack 8 in the box. Intermediate passing in the middle of the field impacts how the D uses its linebackers.

And yes, they will have to catch them more. Copeland's drops are also an issue coming into the season as he's had a few over the years. Granted, he's had some great catches like his TD against Carolina in 2019.
My mistake, Truth. Please accept my apology. I confused Homer's post with yours.
 

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So, there's no such thing as improvement via repetitive practice, repetitive game-play execution, QB- WR timing coordination, advancing visual field acuity, experience towards snap-quick decisions, etc. EJ is solely responsible for his team. Be nice if AR becomes a bash-forward runner.
Need to see our receivers take charge of ball ownership. Go Gators, work yourself clear in our thinking. Set us GC naysayers straight.
 

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So, there's no such thing as improvement via repetitive practice,
There is no such thing as fuchsing douchebag being anything other fuchsing douchebag.

You fuchsing udiots can sit here and pray that next year is the year Mushchump, McElshark and Mullinz are not Mushchump, McElshark and Mullinz all you want.

Wait til next year is never going to come with these losers.
 

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There is no such thing as fuchsing douchebag being anything other fuchsing douchebag.

You fuchsing udiots can sit here and pray that next year is the year Mushchump, McElshark and Mullinz are not Mushchump, McElshark and Mullinz all you want.

Wait til next year is never going to come with these losers.
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This is for the haters. Top 10 most talented teams in the country. Also, UF was ranked 2nd, behind Bama, when it comes to developing players.

College football's 10 most talented teams this season

There's a f*cking thread on this already. smh

This isn't for "the haters", it's an argument FOR "the haters" - meaning the man has a "top 10 most talented team" and he can't win sh*t with it, telling us he can't coach either!
 

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There's a f*cking thread on this already. smh

This isn't for "the haters", it's an argument FOR "the haters" - meaning the man has a "top 10 most talented team" and he can't win sh*t with it, telling us he can't coach either!
you gotta admire his homerism! :lol:
 

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Those rankings are garbage.

1. For anyone who believes we have more talent and depth than a&m with fisher at the crootin helm, I've got some beachfront property in new mexico to sell you. Real cheap.

2. I also dispute we have more talent than Oregon despite being in the southeast. Cristobal is a talent signing machine. We are absolutely not.

3. The gator "five stars" they highlight are cast-offs from other teams. The ones that have played so far (shorter, cox) have played more like 3 stars to the surprise of no one considering the circumstances around their acquisitions.

4. The gap between us and the teams above us is huge and isnt accounted for in a numerical ordering. You want a more informative data point? Put up talent level bar graphs for each of the teams side by side. It wont look so rosy.

5. Even if we swallow the whole load and believe it all, we are, by the authors own commentary, 4th in our own conference in talent. Lets celebrate! :facepalm:
 

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This is for the haters. Top 10 most talented teams in the country. Also, UF was ranked 2nd, behind Bama, when it comes to developing players.

College football's 10 most talented teams this season

That's nice, but 3 teams on our schedule are ranked ahead of us in talent, and it's not that close of a gap. Mullen's track record vs more talented teams and the fact that he consistently loses at least one head scratcher every year doesn't help either.

If we were in the Pac12, then we'd be favorites to win the conference. Currently, we're not even favored to win the SEC east, and this ranking explains why.
 

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