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Zook was leaps and bounds better than Mac at this point. He recruited very well and beat some quality teams. Mac hasn't done either.Zook
Zook was leaps and bounds better than Mac at this point. He recruited very well and beat some quality teams. Mac hasn't done either.Zook
Zook's teams won on talent despite Zook. When we lost it was often on Zook. Zook didn't have a clue what he was doing.Zook was leaps and bounds better than Mac at this point. He recruited very well and beat some quality teams. Mac hasn't done either.
At least he was capable of brining enough talent to attempt to overcome his shortcomings. Mac can't.Zook's teams won on talent despite Zook. When we lost it was often on Zook. Zook didn't have a clue what he was doing.
Zook was able to recruit at UF no doubt. Didn't hurt that he was following Spurrier. How well did he recruit at Illinoise? I'll answer that for you. He had a couple of good classes for Illinois but then once the newness wore off they went back to average. He was a hard worker no doubt but I think his success had more to do with UF's rep at the time.At least he was capable of brining enough talent to attempt to overcome his shortcomings. Mac can't.
He won't be here then, so that ranking will change dramatically.Uhh, isnt our 19 class #1?
I give no ****s about what he did elsewhere. How well do you think Mac would recruit there?Zook was able to recruit at UF no doubt. Didn't hurt that he was following Spurrier. How well did he recruit at Illinoise?
I see your confusion. You think I'm commenting on Mac. I'm not. I'm talking about Zook.I give no ****s about what he did elsewhere. How well do you think Mac would recruit there?
Zook was able to recruit at UF no doubt. Didn't hurt that he was following Spurrier. How well did he recruit at Illinoise? I'll answer that for you. He had a couple of good classes for Illinois but then once the newness wore off they went back to average. He was a hard worker no doubt but I think his success had more to do with UF's rep at the time.
He won't be here then, so that ranking will change dramatically.
If you say so. Was Zook recruiting offensive players?I wouldn't be so sure on that. Zook was the workhorse for the recruiting classes that led to those 95 and 96 Championship game teams. Those were about the only years we truly matched FSU in talent under Spurrier.
I'm comparing the two. Zook>Mac IMO.I see your confusion. You think I'm commenting on Mac. I'm not. I'm talking about Zook.
If you say so. Was Zook recruiting offensive players?
How is this different than Mac, honestly? Most every loss we've had has been by and large attributed to piss poor coaching, playcalling, and game management and the complete inability of Mac and co to make adjustments. And he was brought in to fix the offense but it's still a freaking train wreck and no better than chumps.When we lost it was often on Zook. Zook didn't have a clue what he was doing.
Look, there is no doubt Zook could recruit, but this oft repeated line is simply wrong. Spurriers two highest rated classes and his only #1 class (Berlin's class) occurred AFTER Zook left.I just remember people saying back then Spurrier wasn't big on it and Zook was helping to draw top recruits to UF. It seemed to dropoff some when he left also.
If you think that we had the talent to beat F$U and Alabama the last two years?How is this different than Mac, honestly? Most every loss we've had has been by and large attributed to piss poor coaching, playcalling, and game management and the complete inability of Mac and co to make adjustments. And he was brought in to fix the offense but it's still a freaking train wreck and no better than chumps.
because those are the only teams we've lost to... riiiight.If you think that we had the talent to beat F$U and Alabama the last two years?
No, that isn't the concern. He didn't inherit shyt, no doubt. We shouldn't have been absolutely SKULLFVKKED 7 times. We shouldn't still be waiting on his first offensive TD vs Clowtown, and our offense should be WORSE than Chimp's. But, no, we didn't have the talent to beat Clowntown or Trailerebammer.If you think that we had the talent to beat F$U and Alabama the last two years?
Let's see who did we lose to. In 2015 any win was a miracle with Treon. We lost to LSU. BTW losing to LSU is not an uncommon occurrence for us. In 2016 Tennesse; AA starting, lucky to be up at half. Arkansas was a complete and utter coaching failure.because those are the only teams we've lost to... riiiight.