Venting Thread: Billy is proud of Kirby

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Gator fans respond: What in the hell is he talking about?

 

[SGG]

Gator fans respond: What in the hell is he talking about?

This is about the third or fourth “turning point” we’ve had this season.

He also got mighty testy when a reporter said that he claimed there was a talent gap earlier in the week. I don’t know if anyone else saw the exchange but that’s about the most passion I’ve seen from the guy at a presser. He said “I did NOT say that. Never said that.” And then proceeded to stare the guy down for several seconds

 

[G8trwood]

If you say talent gap, you are pointing your finger at the players. Not good for a coach or recruiting. I assume that is why he got mad. Or sports center was showing the highlights on the back TV

We got ole sling, so the question is, Dixie Chopper or Walmart Yardman

 

[soflagator]

This may be true, and if it is, don't you think it's a problem? I want a cold blooded coach who would sit Hurts for Tua if it helped the team.

That's not saying I think AR should be sitting... I would bet the chances of AR succeeding in another offensive system are much higher than another QB succeeding in Napier's system.

We’ll see. I don’t agree. There have been plays there that he just misses. We’re infatuated with measurables and “what ifs”.

And @lagator , I’m not suggesting he’s being forced to start AR. I’m saying that he’s been a fan favorite since last year and has a ton of local support. It’s a delicate situation, not a conspiracy. If he’d started anyone else day 1 there would’ve been a riot. We’ll see how he handles things going forward. QB isn’t the only issue, but it’s one of them.

 

[Gatorbait25]

So URG and red rockets solution to improve our team is to bench our best player in Anthony . Brilliant !

 

[MJMGator]

So URG and red rockets solution to improve our team is to bench our best player in Anthony . Brilliant !

He’s far from our best player. He might not even be our best QB. I have no idea what QB you’ve been watching this year.

 

[soflagator]

So URG and red rockets solution to improve our team is to bench our best player in Anthony . Brilliant !

How is he definitively our best player? What data supports that? Id say Etienne is probably a better overall player right now. Pearsall as well.

Ftr, I’m not even suggesting a benching in that he doesn’t start next week. But in some of these losses, I’d be good with seeing Kitna get some snaps. We have nothing to lose.

 

[Gatorbait25]

He played poorly against Kentucky . He was actually pretty good yesterday . Any coach would love to have AR.

 

[soflagator]

He played poorly against Kentucky . He was actually pretty good yesterday . Any coach would love to have AR.

And yet, as I said last night, he had three total SEC offers including us. The rest either G5 or lower P5 schools. And he was at Elite11. So why didn’t they offer?

 

[Spurdog98]

He played poorly against Kentucky . He was actually pretty good yesterday . Any coach would love to have AR.

Georgia Southern would be drooling for him until his first run and he comes up gimpy.

 

[Gatorbait25]

And yet, as I said last night, he had three total SEC offers including us. The rest either G5 or lower P5 schools. And he was at Elite11. So why didn’t they offer?

Great question . Not sure and frankly don’t care at this point . Think what Riley or Heupel could do with the guy .

 

[FireFoley]

How is he definitively our best player? What data supports that? Id say Etienne is probably a better overall player right now. Pearsall as well.

Ftr, I’m not even suggesting a benching in that he doesn’t start next week. But in some of these losses, I’d be good with seeing Kitna get some snaps. We have nothing to lose.

Billy Ray O'Cyrus Torrance or whatever his name is. is the best player on the UF offense. Problem is if an offensive lineman is your best player, chances are you are not going to be competitive. but hey he will get his payday so good for him

 

[soflagator]

Great question . Not sure and frankly don’t care at this point . Think what Riley or Heupel could do with the guy .

CW and HH are in a different world. Specifically the latter.

 

[URGatorBait]

Great question . Not sure and frankly don’t care at this point . Think what Riley or Heupel could do with the guy .

It's difficult to coach mental weaknesses and AR is loaded with them.
Accuracy could be improved but bad habits are tough to break and again the mental aspect trumps everything.

 

[Gatorbait25]

CW and HH are in a different world. Specifically the latter.

Those guys would look amazing playing for Billy and handing off the ball on 3rd and 8 from the 10

 

[Alumni Guy]

Until we get the right calls made on 3rd down, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL, don’t expect greatness.

 

[5-Star Finger]

This is about the third or fourth “turning point” we’ve had this season.

 

[MJMGator]

He played poorly against Kentucky . He was actually pretty good yesterday . Any coach would love to have AR.

He’s played poorly at times in every single game. Go back and see how many wide open receivers he’s overthrown. It happens in every single game. Go back and see how times he’s forced the ball while not seeing a wide open receiver, as well. He almost never runs when he should…instead handing it off into a stacked front.
He’s constantly not making the right reads/decisions and he has no touch. Everything is on a rope! Great kid with endless potential but he is far from a good QB at this point in time. His limitations are a large part of our offensive woes.

 

[OcalaGator83]

I see the pumps have already started snorting the Hopium. "If Billy makes changes this offseason" "If Billy benches AR" "If Billy does XYZ" then it's all going to come together like the perfect gumbo.

Come on guys, this is the same excuse train I've been reading for the past 10 years. "If Chump would just hire an OC and stay out of the offense," "If Sharky would just fire Nuss," "If Cousin Eddie would just fire Grantham."

I've got bad news for you, I watched his offense last year before I knew he he was. If you think some magic transformation is going to happen just because he has "his" QB you have no idea what you're talking about. It was the same old crap he runs here. Sure a better QB may actually make the proper reads and complete some passes, but the running up the middle on a 3rd and 8 that we absolutely have to win a game is going to remain.

Napier has way more in common with Jimbo Fisher than he does with Nick Saban.

 

[soflagator]

He’s played poorly at times in every single game. Go back and see how many wide open receivers he’s overthrown. It happens in every single game. Go back and see how times he’s forced the ball while not seeing a wide open receiver, as well. He almost never runs when he should…instead handing it off into a stacked front.
He’s constantly not making the right reads/decisions and he has no touch. Everything is on a rope! Great kid with endless potential but he is far from a good QB at this point in time. His limitations are a large part of our offensive woes.

The one thing that stood out in the USF game last year was EJ’s hesitation when scanning the field. He would have open WRs that would be covered by the time he got it there. He had a QB coach for 4 full seasons and had also watched Trask excel at timing. And yet, he couldn’t. Fast forward to the fsu game 10 games later, and he was the same. Bowl game. Same. It’s a processing issue and generally someone either has it or they don’t. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard “he’s open”, “throw it”, “what are you waiting for?” from the fans around me at games this year. That isn’t a lack of QB coaching, nor is it an indictment of any offensive system, even if I’d be ok seeing something else. That’s a player that has trouble making the reads and can’t recognize when to make a throw, or take off. I know I sound harsh, and I still like AR. But these issues are him first. And history says they don’t usually correct themselves.