Will Grier suspended rest of season for taking PEDs

[Mr2Bits]

Oh I don't think there is a cover up. Now that you mention it, I guess I wonder if the first one was UAA administered and the second by the NCAA, I have no idea, but I suppose that could explain why no games are at risk. I guess that conflicts with what coach mac said about not knowing until Sunday. Hard to believe the school would know he failed a test 2 weeks prior and coach Mac wouldn't. I guess I'm wondering Edgar Thompson is indeed correct in his article.

From what I gathered on the NCAA site, the UAA and the NCAA work together for testing. The NCAA provides a list to each UAA every week that has random names on it. All tests are arranged by the UAA but performed by a NCAA rep and the athlete it not allowed to leave the room until the pee cup is filled. The only time its not random is before and after Championship games where they test "I believe" the entire team.

In the event there is a failure, the UAA is notified a player failed the test and they have to be taken to an NCAA testing facility. If the second is positive again, the player is immediately suspended a year the second the player and UAA are notified.

I could not find a time frame on the results but in recalling when I had to pee in cups for work, it was 3-5 days. So yea, he was likely tested before Ole Miss, informed he failed before Mizzou, failed the second one before and notified on Sunday. Not sure what Macs knowledge was but if they were truly concerned, I think we would have seen more Treon than we did.

 

[URGatorBait]

From what I gathered on the NCAA site, the UAA and the NCAA work together for testing. The NCAA provides a list to each UAA every week that has random names on it. All tests are arranged by the UAA but performed by a NCAA rep and the athlete it not allowed to leave the room until the pee cup is filled. The only time its not random is before and after Championship games where they test "I believe" the entire team.

In the event there is a failure, the UAA is notified a player failed the test and they have to be taken to an NCAA testing facility. If the second is positive again, the player is immediately suspended a year the second the player and UAA are notified.

I could not find a time frame on the results but in recalling when I had to pee in cups for work, it was 3-5 days. So yea, he was likely tested before Ole Miss, informed he failed before Mizzou, failed the second one before and notified on Sunday. Not sure what Macs knowledge was but if they were truly concerned, I think we would have seen more Treon than we did.

Your last paragraph sounds like a reasonable time frame and explains why no games would be at risk.

Though even under that time frame, how could coach not have been informed? Are they not at liberty to inform the school/coaching staff of the first failed test?

Though coach wasn't specific on what he found out sunday, could have been when he was informed of the suspension, and perhaps he knew the testing was occurring.

 

[Jand3k]

Not to fan the flames of validation for the conspiracy theory that UF is complicit but...

perhaps this (staff's knowledge of impending 2nd test results) is why Coach Mac has been hesitant to name Grier the all-time starter even though he throws a better deep ball, has the stronger arm, is taller, and not a mental midget.

 

[rogdochar]

All I know is when I close my eyes now, I can't help seeing beautiful spiral completions in perfect WR-strides. Am I
going to see that vs LSU ... or other teams ?

 

[Zambo]

Not to fan the flames but I think I'll just go ahead and fan the hell out of the flames.

 

[Zambo]

https://twitter.com/t5_harris/status/653940700506124288/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

 

[L-boy]

Good move, but go shut the door behind you. Lboy has snuck out already. Imagine if you let PIF or Reverse Cowboy out?

 

[URGatorBait]

https://twitter.com/t5_harris/status/653940700506124288/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

I think that's awesome.

 

[URGatorBait]

 

[jmskjrgator]

link?

I got a feeling you don't know how to google.

 

[ReelGatorDoc]

Back to a question I have: Is this the first test for PED's for Grier since he's been here, or has he been tested all along?

 

[bradgator2]

Maybe this has been covered... But I have never heard of this happening before. How often does a collegiate player fail one of these tests?

 

[biggator6]

Maybe this has been covered... But I have never heard of this happening before. How often does a collegiate player fail one of these tests?

See: Grow, Monty

IIRC - that was also over-the-counter supplements (Hot Stuff?)

 

[bradgator2]

See: Grow, Monty

IIRC - that was also over-the-counter supplements (Hot Stuff?)

so 2 people in all of college sports?

Somebody told me about a UGA olineman who had a steroid injection in high school for a shoulder injury... and got "busted" by the NCAA in college. So 3 guys?

 

[GatorStud]

The whole scene is weird. We still don't even know the actual product I guess and affirm this non-prescription demon of a substance?

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

Maybe this has been covered... But I have never heard of this happening before. How often does a collegiate player fail one of these tests?

It happens, but it's rarely a high-profile person like Grier. The NCAA mandated drug tests are EXPENSIVE, and they only do a handful of random players, so the odds of testing someone positive aren't high to begin with. The drug tests you always hear about kids failing are the ones administered by the schools.

If Will was in fact intentionally taking the supplements and knew they were illegal, chances are he was just rolling the dice and didn't think he would get tested. I said this in the box yesterday, but in five years of college ball, I was tested exactly once, and it was immediately following my second to last game my senior year. I could have juiced all I wanted up until that point and not gotten caught.

And another thing, people keep citing his weight gain. While a 45 pound increase in weight in a year's time is definitely a big jump, I gained 30 pounds from the end of my senior HS football season to the beginning of my freshman college season. And that was without supplements, without a training staff molding a diet for me, and without the type of weight room equipment and technology these guys have at UF. If you have a thin frame like he does, it's easy to put the weight on. Very easy.

 

[L-boy]

so 2 people in all of college sports?

Somebody told me about a UGA olineman who had a steroid injection in high school for a shoulder injury... and got "busted" by the NCAA in college. So 3 guys?

I guess this is what I find odd about this. It seems like I never hear about this. Either this is very unfair, Grier is very unluckly, or Grier is exceedingly stupid. Perhaps all of the above.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

https://twitter.com/t5_harris/status/653940700506124288/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

That's nice. I like these two.

Now neither of you idiots do anything else to get yourself suspended!!!!!!!!!!

 

[NVGator]

It happens, but it's rarely a high-profile person like Grier. The NCAA mandated drug tests are EXPENSIVE, and they only do a handful of random players, so the odds of testing someone positive aren't high to begin with. The drug tests you always hear about kids failing are the ones administered by the schools.

If Will was in fact intentionally taking the supplements and knew they were illegal, chances are he was just rolling the dice and didn't think he would get tested. I said this in the box yesterday, but in five years of college ball, I was tested exactly once, and it was immediately following my second to last game my senior year. I could have juiced all I wanted up until that point and not gotten caught.

And another thing, people keep citing his weight gain. While a 45 pound increase in weight in a year's time is definitely a big jump, I gained 30 pounds from the end of my senior HS football season to the beginning of my freshman college season. And that was without supplements, without a training staff molding a diet for me, and without the type of weight room equipment and technology these guys have at UF. If you have a thin frame like he does, it's easy to put the weight on. Very easy.

So, what are the chances he was snitched on? I agree with you on the weight gain as well.

 

[Jand3k]

Not to fan the flames but I think I'll just go ahead and fan the hell out of the flames.

So you picked up on that huh? :wink: