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@ThomasGoldkamp: You have to go all the way back to 2007 to find last #Gators recruiting class that had a QB who finished his career as a UF QB (Brantley).
I am truly disappointed.
I had really hoped he'd take his punishment like a man, and show some loyalty to the team and the University. This decision seems to indict his meddling Dance-Mom father, too, as a galactically egocentric jerk. The easy way is usually never the right way, particularly after a totally stupid mistake.
Instead of being a me-first little b****, Grier should have stayed and worked his butt off to be the best QB on the team, and while he was on probation, dedicated himself to learning how to be a real leader. Shame on the Griers, all of them. Their decision is the coward's way out.
Well said, Blondie. Your first sentence sums up my feelings. I think, unfortunately, that we'll start seeing more and more of this type situation with where we are with transitioning from HS to college and possibly to the pro ranks, given that there is a growing population of agent-parents out there who prioritize team and any loyalty thereto much lower than the ambition of scholarships and a payday. I guess it is the way of the world nowadays and I'm long of tooth (and think and believe as such), but I think that not only is it a selfish and sh!tty way to do business, but it will ultimately hurt football (and other sports) as well as the individuals, not to mention the team transferred from.It would have been nice for Grier to have come to this decision prior to the Eason decision.
I've heard this several times myself. It's not a secret on campus either!Don't take this as gospel but I've heard and seen a few places Will and Hardin may have a cocaine habit. May be a factor if true.
Unless he's learned a helluva lot at light speed these last few days, I don't see him ever doing as good or better than SOS. I think USCe, because of their history and tradition as much as anything, were down to about their 4th option and had to settle. Muschamp can probably build a competitive D but what can be accomplished there offensively remains to be seen. He'll have to be able to recruit outside of SC, I think, in order to give him the opportunity to do anything to make them relevant. Again, if this is to happen, he has to be able to do something as a HC that he couldn't do at UF...get out of his own way! We'll see.Cover. Have you given your opinion on the Muschamp-usc situation? Should we worry that he and Roper might pose a threat, or is he just too dumb to learn?
I've heard this several times myself. It's not a secret on campus either!
Well said, Blondie. Your first sentence sums up my feelings. I think, unfortunately, that we'll start seeing more and more of this type situation with where we are with transitioning from HS to college and possibly to the pro ranks, given that there is a growing population of agent-parents out there who prioritize team and any loyalty thereto much lower than the ambition of scholarships and a payday. I guess it is the way of the world nowadays and I'm long of tooth (and think and believe as such), but I think that not only is it a selfish and sh!tty way to do business, but it will ultimately hurt football (and other sports) as well as the individuals, not to mention the team transferred from.
To further state my opinion on such mercenary behavior (I avoided a comparison to wh0res), much of the responsibility for it falls on the parents and their unbridled desires to aggressively manage their children's careers. I used to laugh when I would see these parents getting their beginning in the pee wee leagues. Then I realized that the ones who didn't ultimately turn their kids off to particular sports only grew in intensity and selfishness, becoming a coach's worst nightmare. I understand the passion they have for their children, having had c2 Jr. go through the pee wees to MS and HS and finally into college. I wanted him to excel, but more importantly to learn teamwork, reliability, and leadership. Having coached for a few years prior, I knew that I couldn't become his agent and do him good service. Hell, I didn't know how good he would be at an early age I and I knew that would be answered by him based on his desires, likes, and willingness to work. He eventually became a QB and started for his HS (a very small 2A HS) his last two years. He was decent, had a good arm, could process things pretty quickly, and learned to read route progressions. But he didn't grow a whole lot and was small (5'9" 165 lbs) and had no suitors from the small college ranks. I hoped he might get a chance to play on but I didn't die when he didn't and realized that even though football was over for him, he learned a lot of things that will help him to succeed as an adult. He didn't die either, though he was disappointed. What he did do was find a place to play baseball at a small college and is happy with that opportunity. Thank God I had enough sense and a wife that helped keep me grounded not to push too hard. I'm far from a model, but I certainly wish that Will Grier and most likely his dad had a little better perspective. I wish him well but the good he did while at UF will forever be tainted by what will be viewed by many as a lack of personal responsibility for his mistake(s) and little loyalty beyond what he could get out of his time on the team.
I agree with Lboy, but as Benji said later in the thread, it might not have made any difference. Still, with an EE in play, it would have been nice for this decision to have come a little earlier, for arguments sake if nothing else. Here's hoping that whoever we wind up with in the QB group, they are able to perform and lead at a higher level than what we got the latter part of the season. Will Grier, I hope that what will be is better for you wherever you land than what was as a Gator, and make no mistake, you were off to a great start. I personally do not think you made a good decision, but it was yours to make.