Recruiting 2017 Recruiting Standing Board

[ATXGator]

Nice post. I think my biggest question mark would be the idea that UF wants/needs 2 TEs in this class. I know UF has to purported TEs, but I am not quite sure that is the plan. Also UF has 3 early enrollees, I think so maybe this group could go to 28.

Another way to look at it is:

Postion(need)

QB(1): Allen
RB(1): Davis
WR(3): Green, Toney
TE(1): Byrd, Gamble
OL(4): Moore, Telford
K(0):
DL(5): Campbell, Carter
LB(5): Houston, Miller
DB(5): Blades, Davis, Wilson
P(0):
with 3 possible wild cards and one already used at TE.

The board:

QB:
RB: Lemons, Thompson (tied with UCF)
WR: Robinson, Ruggs
TE:
OL: Chandler, Gray, Herbert, Randolf, Slaton, Zabie
K:
DL: Bryant, Durden, Jackson, Parks, Ray, Solomon, Truesdell
LB: Johnson, Jones
DB: Bishop, Edwards, Gibbs, Henderson, Hunter, Stewart
P:

This is a very preliminary board and I have probably omitted many players UF is still recruiting.

Great post by you and the OP. Who do we really think we get out of these guys? That is the key. It is nice to have targets, but who do we sign... I've put a bold on all that have a crystal ball for us...

It looks like we still have a lot of need here. I did see that Levi Jones is visiting Jan 13 so that is good and should increase our chances, but we have to really pull some of these guys. We definitely have work to do at DT, LB and DB.

 

[rogdochar]

Well, we should have little problem getting the max of those recruits since all the non-McElwain schools
have already got all their guys.

 

[Bernardo de la Paz]

I hear you. The signed vs committed thing is just splitting hairs. I think most LOI's come in on or near NSD. Mac got two commits after Xmas last year was the point I was making. Hopefully, he closes better this year than last.

I'm pretty sure they can't sign the LOI until NSD unless they are a JUCO or enrolling early.

 

[alcoholica]

If Levi doesn't visit you can cross him off. These kids have to get on campus or it's a fruitless speculation. We do lead for James Robinson but he said that he needs to know who will be throwing him the ball. I fully expect him to go elsewhere and end up off the team within 2 years.

 

[T REX]

I'm pretty sure they can't sign the LOI until NSD unless they are a JUCO or enrolling early.

Makes sense.

 

[t-gator]

The staff has been targeting 3 all year... that has been the plan. If they get 3 they hit their goal. Getting 4 in one class would be tough.. I think they want 3 this year then 3 next year then 2 ever following year.

When we had hansard, scott and edwards commited we were still recruiting truesdale. They wanted 4 originally and I think they end up with 2 unless they find another under the radar guy like Campbell.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Your mom says it's just the right amount.

My mom had low expectations. She is also dead.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

When we had hansard, scott and edwards commited we were still recruiting truesdale. They wanted 4 originally and I think they end up with 2 unless they find another under the radar guy like Campbell.

They originally said 2 jucos and 3 Dts.

That's about right, given that we should have signed 2 in 2015 and 2 in 2016 but signed zero and need 2 more for this class.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

The staff has been targeting 3 all year... that has been the plan. If they get 3 they hit their goal. Getting 4 in one class would be tough.. I think they want 3 this year then 3 next year then 2 ever following year.

Wrong. And even if it is the plan now, it doesn't mean it isn't stupid.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I think we'll get the numbers if we want. They'll just be lower tier guys that we don't even know they are looking at, unless the momentum starts picking up soon

I'm ok with that if they are strong DTs and OL that aren't ranked highly because they can't dunk a basketball.

I will be pissed if we run out and waste schollies on a bunch of 4th string 2 or low 3 star DBs or WRs.

 

[t-gator]

They originally said 2 jucos and 3 Dts.

That's about right, given that we should have signed 2 in 2015 and 2 in 2016 but signed zero and need 2 more for this class.

I think you're right. It's just a disaster . How do we let a 4star dt from north marion go to Georgia Tech last year and now let the 2 kids from Newberry go to fsu? That's 3 that should be gimmies right there.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

Great post by you and the OP. Who do we really think we get out of these guys? That is the key. It is nice to have targets, but who do we sign... I've put a bold on all that have a crystal ball for us...

It looks like we still have a lot of need here. I did see that Levi Jones is visiting Jan 13 so that is good and should increase our chances, but we have to really pull some of these guys. We definitely have work to do at DT, LB and DB.

Well if UF gets the six guys in bold, then UF would be at 21. That leaves 4 to 7 more slots. I would guess that UF has some slots open for some top players with some fall back choices.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

My mom had low expectations. She is also dead.

From pulling too many DTs in one class, no doubt.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Well if UF gets the six guys in bold, then UF would be at 21. That leaves 4 to 7 more slots. I would guess that UF has some slots open for some top players with some fall back choices.

We had seven early entrants last year who counted back, and we could do the same this year. So we could go up to 32 (and we are no where near 85 or even 75). That being said our staff doesnt seem interested in getting back to 85 and doesnt even have many EEs or jucos nibbling.

Its a lot of work to try to land a full class.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

We had seven early entrants last year who counted back, and we could do the same this year. So we could go up to 32 (and we are no where near 85 or even 75). That being said our staff doesnt seem interested in getting back to 85 and doesnt even have many EEs or jucos nibbling.

Its a lot of work to try to land a full class.

As I understand it, you can only count back the smaller of (25-last years class size) and (85 - total on scholarship the prior fall). According to 247 UF signed 25 in last years class, but of course some of them were counted back on 2015. I do not know how many.

For UF to be able to go to 32, UF must have counted only 18 of the 25 signed last year in the 2016 class. Note early entrance does not equal counting back, you can count an early entrant on either the prior year class if you have room or the current class.

 

[T REX]

As I understand it, you can only count back the smaller of (25-last years class size) and (85 - total on scholarship the prior fall). According to 247 UF signed 25 in last years class, but of course some of them were counted back on 2015. I do not know how many.

For UF to be able to go to 32, UF must have counted only 18 of the 25 signed last year in the 2016 class. Note early entrance does not equal counting back, you can count an early entrant on either the prior year class if you have room or the current class.

I'm pretty sure you are right. So we should be able to sign over 25 this year because those EE's would count in 2015? I thought you could roll the EE number into the following class.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

Added Jordan Pouncey to the board since his decommit from ND. I understand that he's a Miami lean. I also updated Levi Jones and Tony Gray as "Gator Leans" which I define as recruits Ill be extra pissed about if we don't get. Yes I know Tony Gray is trolling everybody.

Oh and I have a feeling we don't sign 25. I've read 23. Before you ask, it was probably on Gator Country. Before you comment, because we suck.

Who the hell is Jake Allen's big surprise?

 

[oxrageous]

Who the hell is Jake Allen's big surprise?

The big surprise is that he's decommitting. Surprise!

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I'm pretty sure you are right. So we should be able to sign over 25 this year because those EE's would count in 2015? I thought you could roll the EE number into the following class.

Roll the EEs into the previous class (and seven of those were rolled to the year prior) if there is room in the previous class and there is for us this year.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

As I understand it, you can only count back the smaller of (25-last years class size) and (85 - total on scholarship the prior fall). According to 247 UF signed 25 in last years class, but of course some of them were counted back on 2015. I do not know how many.

For UF to be able to go to 32, UF must have counted only 18 of the 25 signed last year in the 2016 class. Note early entrance does not equal counting back, you can count an early entrant on either the prior year class if you have room or the current class.

It was seven EEs who counted back. Early in the year there were several articles about the goal beimg 7+25 last year. We again have those seven available this year but we dont have that many EEs.

Youre right that EEs dont automatically count back. If we had signed all 32 last year, we would have no ability to count back any EEs this year.

I dont know how we are ever going to get full strength at this rate. The next coach will also inherit a roster that will be 15 short just like the last two.