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Weak recruiting.Thomas Goldkamp said:GatorJ;n30048 said:I have no faith in the O line. So this would not surprise me. We're still a year away from solid depth.
Next year could be even worse unless there is some major development from some young guys, IMO. You get Thurman, Moore, Humphries back. Then you need Johnson, Sharpe, Riles, maybe Dillard to be ready to feel anywhere close to good about the depth. Or other guys to enter that mix.
Serviceable in the starting five with a weakness in pass rushing, particularly on the left side. Do things like roll pocket right, slide protection left to help. If Florida loses a starter or two for the year, this team is absolute toast. Second-team offensive line just cannot cut it in the SEC, period.LagoonGator68 said:How do you see this OL, TG
LagoonGator68;n30555 said:Also your best eval of Grier vs Harris??
Thanks, TG. Your reports have been great!Thomas Goldkamp said:LagoonGator68;n30555 said:Also your best eval of Grier vs Harris??
Grier can make every throw on the route tree, though his accuracy can vary and he has a tendency to risk more throws. Harris is very good on digs, outs, curls and inside routes. Struggles some on the deep ball and the fade, two areas Grier excels in. Harris is a good athlete who can make things happen with his legs. Both have good command of the offense.
Personally, I'm taking Grier if I have to go into any three-game stretch in the season, starting with the Alabama game, without Jeff Driskel. Just feel he gives you a better chance to run the full offense and has more upside for the future.
Thomas, you're getting dangerously close to criticism here. You're risking your access.Thomas Goldkamp;n30564 said:If Florida loses a starter or two for the year, this team is absolute toast. Second-team offensive line just cannot cut it in the SEC, period.
oxrageous;n30576 said:Thomas, you're getting dangerously close to criticism here. You're risking your access.
Concrete Helmet;n30623 said:Thomas I really like your updates on the open practice. BUT, I have to say that these are OPEN practices that could be scouted by anyone..... My point being that I personally believe they have been going pass heavy to work on that more than the run game. I believe Roper will actually be more run heavy WITHOUT the need for straight up studs on the offensive line.....more zone and slide blocking as well as using a wealth of guys like Joyer, Jones, Ajagbe, and such in the B position to help the tackles as well as running to the weak side more often. The whole key to the QB's imo getting the ball off in under 3 seconds here ie to take advantage of their running ability and pick up positive yards when they decide to throw on 1st and 2nd downs. That in turn will keep us out of being stuck in 2nd and 3rd and long, making the play calling more open than in the past. Nobody is going to make me believe that Auburns offensive line suddenly "got good" last year.....or Mizzou's. It's more to do with play calling and using your assets the right way. Something Pease could never figure out. Long story short, if you put people in a place to fail they usually do. Thanks again for your updates.
OL has been our Achilles heal. Let's hope we stay relatively healthy up front this year...for a change.LagoonGator68 said:How do you see this OL, TG
I thought Koehler and harkless were pretty good prospects. Also how about sarvary?Thomas Goldkamp;n30549 said:Next year could be even worse unless there is some major development from some young guys, IMO. You get Thurman, Moore, Humphries back. Then you need Johnson, Sharpe, Riles, maybe Dillard to be ready to feel anywhere close to good about the depth. Or other guys to enter that mix.
t-gator;n30671 said:I thought Koehler and harkless were pretty good prospects. Also how about sarvary?
What happened to the other offensive lineman we signed with Dillard and Johnson ?sonomagator said:t-gator;n30671 said:I thought Koehler and harkless were pretty good prospects. Also how about sarvary?
Do you mean Kelleher ? He had back surgery, I've read in some reports that they're not sure about him playing again. Guess it's wait and see with him. I've read some good about Harkless but he needs strength and time. Dorsey needs to put on good weight.We've also got Mike and Riles, Sarvary has been working at center recently.Basically we've got 12 returning right now with 4 committed , probably 3-4 more . and we have some studs coming in, dependent on how they mature and when they get in some of them could be in the mix.
Yea I remembered the trevon young kid . I just never read Jackson had to quit that blowssonomagator said:Trevon Young or Octavius Jackson? You mean them? Young transferred to a DII school for basketball, he was pretty much a big project. Jackson had to quit due to a chronic shoulder injury, They did another surgery and the Drs. said no mas. Pity , he was a big kid who was slated to contribute this year. Between him, Valentine a few years ago and Tommy Jordan we've lost some good OL in the last few years.
So we may have to grab another juco o lineman for depth purposessonomagator said:Pretty much yep, he got a medical hardship so he's still at UF.
Dillard just moved from center to guard. He's had issues at center, I guess.sonomagator said:t-gator;n30671 said:I thought Koehler and harkless were pretty good prospects. Also how about sarvary?
Do you mean Kelleher ? He had back surgery, I've read in some reports that they're not sure about him playing again. Guess it's wait and see with him. I've read some good about Harkless but he needs strength and time. Dorsey needs to put on good weight.We've also got Mike and Riles, Sarvary has been working at center recently.Basically we've got 12 returning right now with 4 committed , probably 3-4 more . and we have some studs coming in, dependent on how they mature and when they get in some of them could be in the mix.
I don't know if Tommy Jordan was a "good one". We had some awful O line recruiting the last year of Urban and the 1st 2 years of Muschamp. Projects and non-SEC level athletes on the o-line. Hell, our biggest recruit, Humphries is average. I think Sharpe may be our first elite O-lineman in 5 years. Although I wouldn't write off Rod Johnson. Chaz Green has always teetered on elite but never crossed that line IMO. Maybe this year.sonomagator;n30735 said:Trevon Young or Octavius Jackson? You mean them? Young transferred to a DII school for basketball, he was pretty much a big project. Jackson had to quit due to a chronic shoulder injury, They did another surgery and the Drs. said no mas. Pity , he was a big kid who was slated to contribute this year. Between him, Valentine a few years ago and Tommy Jordan we've lost some good OL in the last few years.
601Gator;n30655 said:Very, very good points. People forget that you can take some of the load off the OL. I've been hearing of Humphries' struggles but he's been going against Fowler every play and we can always add Joyer or Ajagbe to that side to chip. I think we'll actually be better than any year under Muschamp as far as pass protection goes this year.