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Here’s the worst part of hiring this moron. This fuchsing retard inherited a premier program who opened their checkbook for a comically large support staff, gave him upgraded facilities in the most fertile state in the country going into the easiest time in history to make the college football playoffs. It was set up perfectly for him where all he had to do was get his team in the top 12 by year 3 and he would get in the playoffs, get an extension, a huge raise, etc. All he really needed to do was hire competent coordinators and recruiters and keep his incompetence in check by taking a game day hands off approach. But the guy is so stupid, he’s oblivious to his own incompetence.
The bolded is the part that mostly confuses me re. his actions, once hired. I'm sure he was going for people that he was comfortable being around and trusted. And I get that.
He was/is also a fairly young coach and probably doesn't have a ton of contacts that he can reach out to, so he's limited there too. But UF is a known commodity, and so are its coffers, as is the SEC and the state of Florida...all of which have their own appeal and draw, so if he had pursued X coach, I think he gets them. In essence, he chose to move his trailer to a new location that was upscale from his last.

Also, I can understand that he, "wants to call plays because it's the closest he can get to actually being on the field" but at some point he has to let that bravado move (ego) go and understand he's bad at it and needs to turn that over to someone.

And his response would be that our players have made little errors at critical times in the games that cost us. Ok, that may be true, but why IN YEAR 1 OR 2 are you hellbent on running an offense that can be completely derailed by just one player making one small mistake? Maybe your concepts are too hard to understand or maybe you and your coaches are doing a piss poor job of communicating the intricacies and importance of rep perfection. Either way, simplify the offense and open the playbook as their familiarity and ability increase.

But it's his timing of play calls that really needs to be criticized. He has zero "feel" for his own damn calls, IMO.
Just turn the calls over to someone else and be the CEO.
 

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No, what was comical was our prior "stuck int he 70s" support staff. The current support staff is normal P5. I guess it seems large to Gators who have been getting by with 2 GAs, 2 QAs and 2-3 recruiting specialists and letting Fooley stick the rest of the 150 million revenue in his mattress.

Of course, the staff should have been filled with competent people, not a bunch of Sunbelters GAs (including a Sunbelt GA pretending to be a DCs).

However, the support staff size will stay when Cajun Taggart gets fired. Even now it is half the size of what Bama, Ugly, OSU, and LSU have and most of them hire real former P5 coaches typically to fill the support spots. Hopefully we too will start buying up these former coaches and having real talent behind the scenes.

As it is, the novice support staff and either incompetent or inexperienced coordinators simply can't make half time adjustments much less in game adjustments. That's why you see us come out of the gates and score once or twice (good game planning) but not score much after that. We are basically dead in 2nd and 3rd quarter. This shows lack of ability to adjust. Only competent coordinator hires could fix this, but we deferred choosing to let BiLLLLLLLy go down with the ship. His choice I guess.

Butters was the same, start pretty well and dead after we run out of the scripted plays.

Mullenz was the opposite, too lazy to watch gamefilm and game plan, come out dead, he is actually capable of adjusting, so we did better there after.

It has been a pick your poison of incompetent coaching staffs.
I think you missed the main point. First of all, even if it just got us up to speed, the size the new support staff and some of the staff titles was a running joke and often they would dedicate an entire segment to it on sports radio while pointing out how much better we were going to be compared to the understaffed and lazyass leadership of Mullen.

But the point of my post is it would have been hard to get a better opportunity than Sunbelt Billy was given with 3 years to get it together and with lowest expectations in decades for a new UF head coach. But instead of recognizing his own limitations he has doubled down on his losing “process”. Meanwhile a bunch of ****ty teams are going to make the playoffs while we are left on hind tit once again.
 

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However, the support staff size will stay when Cajun Taggart gets fired. Even now it is half the size of what Bama, Ugly, OSU, and LSU have and most of them hire real former P5 coaches typically to fill the support spots. Hopefully we too will start buying up these former coaches and having real talent behind the scenes.

As it is, the novice support staff and either incompetent or inexperienced coordinators simply can't make half time adjustments much less in game adjustments. That's why you see us come out of the gates and score once or twice (good game planning) but not score much after that. We are basically dead in 2nd and 3rd quarter. This shows lack of ability to adjust. Only competent coordinator hires could fix this, but we deferred choosing to let BiLLLLLLLy go down with the ship. His choice I guess.

Butters was the same, start pretty well and dead after we run out of the scripted plays.

Mullenz was the opposite, too lazy to watch gamefilm and game plan, come out dead, he is actually capable of adjusting, so we did better there after.

It has been a pick your poison of incompetent coaching staffs.
Josh Pate, from LateKick, says the bolded is not true and that UF is on par, or more staffed, than those schools you mentioned.
Where you are spot on, is with the level of coach filling these spots.
While I can't say with certainty that those spots are filled with talented coaches at OSU and LSU, I do know Bangs has better coaches at UGAy and Saban had better coaches at Bama.
And then, where Billy needs to also be criticized, is the 10 named coaches allowed on the field do not include a ST coach or a bona fide OC and has 2 O-line coaches. At first we were all thinking he might be a crazy genius but so far it hasn't panned out and he just looks crazy.
 

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Josh Pate, from LateKick, says the bolded is not true and that UF is on par, or more staffed, than those schools you mentioned.
Total bull****. Alabama hides their staffers, calling them assistant athletic department professors, assistant IT staffer or whatever.

They had over 100 by about 2010 and clearly had more staffers than players in the early UF vs Alabama games. It may be an ADEQUATE amount of staff, if that is what you meant, but I'd have to hear the entire context.

Josh Pate was calling UF a darkhorse championship contender last year. Just because he has a microphone doesn't mean he has a clue.
 
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Total bull****. Alabama hides their staffers, calling them assistant athletic department professors, assistant IT staffer or whatever.

They had over 100 by about 2010 and clearly had more staffers than players in the early UF vs Alabama games. It may be an ADEQUATE amount of staff, if that is what you meant, but I'd have to hear the entire context.
All of these Bama staffers, are they in the room with us right now? :suspect2:
 

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8 wins? :lol:
Maybe combined over the next 2 seasons. Maybe.
I’d need to look at the 25 schedule but tend to agree with you . Frankly I don’t see a Billy coached team getting bowl eligible against this schedule . But to Laws point it isn’t as daunting when you dig into it . A and M, Kentucky and Miami for example are lay ups in the swamp for a competent coach
 

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I’d need to look at the 25 schedule but tend to agree with you . Frankly I don’t see a Billy coached team getting bowl eligible against this schedule . But to Laws point it isn’t as daunting when you dig into it . A and M, Kentucky and Miami for example are lay ups in the swamp for a competent coach
And yet, Napier will bend over and take it up the ass against them, then tell us what a privilege it is to get butt raped by crystal-balls and half-stoops
 

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I’d need to look at the 25 schedule but tend to agree with you . Frankly I don’t see a Billy coached team getting bowl eligible against this schedule . But to Laws point it isn’t as daunting when you dig into it . A and M, Kentucky and Miami for example are lay ups in the swamp for a competent coach
I made a comment about this in another thread a week or so back....I'm not giving this staff the benefit of "that schedule"....**** that, it's his 3rd year and EVERYONE we play had massive turnover in the portal/coaching staff and such....It's time to hold Karl and the guy who hired him 110% accountable...
 

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Another reason I'm not handing out passes is this guy and his staff have a regional recruiting advantage over 98% of other schools in the entire country AND supposedly has ties to hotbed talent pools in Texas and La....3 years in and this roster should be one of the top 5 most talented teams in the country, portal or no portal.
 

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Napier kicked the sh!t out of UT last year.
He gives that one win against a top 50 team that makes you think just maybe this year will be different. Then the rest of September occurs.

I won't be surprised if he does it again with either Miami or Tinerc.

Losing Baby Beamer's goofy ass off the schedule doesn't help.
 

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Is it bad when your rivals pray your head coach doesn't get fired?

"That’s why Tennessee fans should pull for Billy Napier.

"I haven't forgotten that Napier's Gators beat the Vols last season in The Swamp. But I don't like their chances of doing so again. In fact, I don't like Napier's chances of beating hardly any SEC teams.

"Since the Vols must play in The Swamp in 2025, it’s in their best interest that Napier is still calling the shots for their longtime nemesis. I realize that’s a long shot.


BRUTAL
 

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He gives that one win against a top 50 team that makes you think just maybe this year will be different. Then the rest of September occurs.

I won't be surprised if he does it again with either Miami or Tinerc.

Losing Baby Beamer's goofy ass off the schedule doesn't help.
For whatever reason, they decided to take away our weakness offensively and allowed us us to run up and down the field in the 1st half. It was gift from someone ever simpler than Napier.
 

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