What should Malik Davis have done?
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The coaching handbook DEFINITELY DOES NOT say drop at the one and then use a down or two to drain the clock and then go for the score. That's the worst of the 3 options...that's even worse than taking a knee at the one and then going into the V formation. The last thing you want to have happen is a fumble trying to score that gets scooped and returned the other way for a TD or just scooped and then give the opponent the chance to heave Hail Marys, especially when you could have scored a sure thing on the original run that got you to the one yard line. Scoring the TD was, and always will be, the correct option in that situation.
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diehardg8r
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The crowd and TV audience needed the score too. If we were leading by 2 scores already ... maybe I could see dropping just from a sportsmanship perspective (unless it's the bootlickers)
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Well.... there you go!!!! Good find!
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Trust me when I say he'll fail to grasp what you're trying to say (or just won't be man enough to admit that you are right). Some of us get it and agree that scoring the TD was the right move.
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Do you guys think that long before I said that nobody has ever recovered a V formation fumble and scored that I didn't research it? I've already mentioned the OSU game as the one time I can ever remember a V formation fumble being recovered by the other team. The question was when has the other team ever won the game. So one fumble in all those instances, and precisely zero comeback wins.
Also, I have already mentioned several times that I wouldn't expect Davis to not score in that situation. There are two different arguments. One is what would you realistically expect a guy to do. The other is a statistical analysis of win probability. Even though the latter points to going down in play and running out the clock, everybody including myself is happy we scored a touchdown.
Also, I have already mentioned several times that I wouldn't expect Davis to not score in that situation. There are two different arguments. One is what would you realistically expect a guy to do. The other is a statistical analysis of win probability. Even though the latter points to going down in play and running out the clock, everybody including myself is happy we scored a touchdown.
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Not saying I agree with it at all. I've seen NFL teams do it before. If it were me I'd be aggressive always. My thoughts are it's the other teams job to stop you. If they can't oh well.
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I can see the first time that it does happen, happening to us in our current play not to lose mentality. I see prevent defenses lose games all the time, but statistically speaking, it shouldn't.
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Of course it's the other team's job to stop you but that's not my point at all. The TD after falling down at the one isn't guaranteed and there is plenty that can go wrong on the following play(s) if you're trying to score thereafter (like the fumble I referenced). You're better off taking the easy points when you're running free into the end zone on the original play.
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I agree.
diehardg8r
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When I see our team executing a basic offense and ST like a prof football team, I will give consideration to this example. Until then, I think it's apples to oranges.
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You're emotional, subjective opinion is noted. I'll just continue believing in math.
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[QUOTE="Zambo, post: 583905, member: 82". ]I'll just continue believing in math.[/QUOTE]
Again, show me your math.
You keep babbling about math and stats.
Quarterbacks fumble the snap x %.
Defense recovers x%
Hail Marys complete X%
On side kicks successful x%
2nd hail mary x%
Show me this math you believe in.
Again, show me your math.
You keep babbling about math and stats.
Quarterbacks fumble the snap x %.
Defense recovers x%
Hail Marys complete X%
On side kicks successful x%
2nd hail mary x%
Show me this math you believe in.
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I'm not going back and reading this whole embarrassment of a thread, but I see there's actually 5 votes for "going down". I'm assuming we've got 5 posters that English isn't their first language or either they didn't understand the question because there's zero ****ing reasons to not score there. You always go up by 2 scores.
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He has gone full Crete in this thread.
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I love how he just makes up the odds of muffing the snap in V formation which leads to a TD and the odds of converting a Hail Mary TD, an onside kick recovery and another Hail Mary TD pass in one minute 38 seconds and proclaims with finality that it's easier to pull off the latter than the former. Delusional, but somewhat funny nonetheless.
