Cooter, Help! Zambo gets Betty too hot

[Gator By Marriage]

You don't need a fixture for a wet area, but over time there will be some corrosion due to humidity. Pendant lights would work nicely. The advantage of a recessed fixture is if you use matching trims and baffle it provides a sense of uninterrupted ceiling. I just didn't want to try to influence your fixture selection, I have trouble dressing myself. Looking at the draperies and rods it appears to be a well used space, is it set up for dining with a table that remains in the space or relaxing conversation. As I recall you have a herd of deer that frequent the back yard.

No worries on the influence. I was sure I wanted cans, so it was can I; not should I. And yes, we use the porch a lot. Unless, it’s too hot or too cold, we eat dinner there, and there is a separate sitting area where many a cocktail in the evening, or a cup of coffee in the AM has been enjoyed. And you remember correctly about the deer. Great spot to bird watch as well as we have a bunch of feeders.

 

[grengadgy]

Keep in mind low voltage lighting doesn't always provide adequate lighting and requires more current to produce amperage. It also requires a tranformer to reduce the power to 12v.

I have been retired since May 2001 when did they quit calling current amperes ? ......;)

 

[grengadgy]

You could lessen the strobe effect by have a 3 , 5 or 6 blade fan, anything but opposed 4 blades.

 

[crosscreekcooter]

I have been retired since May 2001 when did they quit calling current amperes ? ......;)

Yes amperes are a measure of current. what I should have said was when using low voltage lighting you are somewhat limited in the number of lumens produced.

 

[grengadgy]

Yes amperes are a measure of current. what I should have said was when using low voltage lighting you are somewhat limited in the number of lumens produced.

Just yanking your chain.....these yokels were fooled.

 

[Gator By Marriage]

Keep in mind low voltage lighting doesn't always provide adequate lighting and requires more current to produce amperage. It also requires a tranformer to reduce the power to 12v.

Yeah, the lights she recommends have a built in transformer and she has had good success with them. (I actually asked about this as I had the same thought - great minds think alike!)
When we lived in NoVa we built a pretty good sized addition and in the kitchen/family room there were a boat load of recessed lights. I was there with the electrician the day after he had installed them and asked him why he hadn’t wired them yet as he had already moved onto another part of the job. He told me never wires cans until after my sis has reviewed the placement. When I asked if that was annoying, he replied yes, but not because he would have to move them, but because he noticed after the job was finished that she was always right about the placement. After working with her for many years, he had learned never to argue with her.

 

[Gator By Marriage]

You could lessen the strobe effect by have a 3 , 5 or 6 blade fan, anything but opposed 4 blades.

That’s very interesting. Any idea why? (Fortunately it’s a 5 blade fan.)

 

[Zambo]

Which way does the sun pass over the porch?

 

[MJMGator]

Which way does the sun pass over the porch?

Over the top.

 

[grengadgy]

That’s very interesting. Any idea why? (Fortunately it’s a 5 blade fan.)

The fan blades would only be able to block the light from one of your recessed can at a given time. A 4 blades fan would block both lights at the same moment.

 

[crosscreekcooter]

Which way does the sun pass over the porch?

I can't hear you.

 

[crosscreekcooter]

The fan blades would only be able to block the light from one of your recessed can at a given time. A 4 blades fan would block both lights at the same moment.

Now we need a SMART button

 

[cover2]

Reluctantly I’m posting a pic from phase 1 of the deck refurbishment. Keep a couple of things in mind. First, the decking and steps will be new, but the foundation and parts of the railing will remain as is. If I had more time and steady help, I might would have taken on a complete rebuild, but I’ve got neither (started back to work this week). Second, I’m an old barn builder at best. Emphasis on old. Plus, if it were too pretty (which there’s no chance of) I’d have to surrender my jack leg licensure. Getting this landing to the back porch redone was a bit of a challenge for my old back and knees.



I’ve about decided (actually the missus has the deciding vote) to put on a solid coat. Just afraid the older wood would look too funky either tinted or just sealed next to the new stuff.

Quick funny on the spokes of the railing, when I went to buy them for the initial build, the open bundle at Stones looked like a pile of spaghetti it was so twisted. The yard guy insisted that I was going to have to take them before he’d cut the band on a new bundle. I had already paid, had my ticket, and needed the lumber so I politely told him I wasn’t paying for that pile of schit. He tried to argue some more, but finally went to tell his manager. While he was gone, I took out my lineman’s dykes and cut the band on the new bundle and loaded up what I paid for (about 2/3 of the bundle. When the guy came back, he puffed up and started raising hell about his manager was going to fire him. I consoled him a bit. Told him it would be okay and infinitely better than an ass whipping. He never waited on me again.

I’ll post some more pics as I get a little further along. Appreciate your feedback. Just keep your guffaws to a minimum :)

 

[crosscreekcooter]

I see you haven't been sitting on your butt. You probably should have kicked the yardman's ass so somebody else doesn't have to. I always hated it when a suppier tries to unload rough looking material on me. It's easier for them to try to do that than practice sensible material storage.

You would be surprised what even a light colored finish will do for the appearance, but stay away from a straight sealer. The seasoned wood will be more thirsty and obviously require additional coats where the new may only require one, maybe look at a midtone semi-transparent to try to average out the appearance. A solid-hide is most safe.

Judging from the picture it appears you replaced most of the exposed surfacing material with exception of the 4x4s which are probably structurally sound but dried and split. Removing those two terminal members in the picture would not be as difficult as it seems as they appear to only be toenailed to the surface, and the railing is facenailed laterally and they do not travel thru the decking into the beams, stringers or to the ground. Theres no reason you couldn't simply replace the 4x4's at the same point with a couple extra 2x2s. You could allow the 2x2s to be a little longer and get a good bite onto the side of the beam or stair stringer for lateral strength. This would improve the look of your finished product without the expense of new 4x4s.
With all that said, the use of a solid-hide finish would allow you to use a filler like Rock Putty in the big splits and not go thru the trouble of replacement.

Zambo is gonna want to know which way does the sun pass overhead?

 

[Zambo]

Zambo is gonna want to know which way does the sun pass overhead?

Actually I was more interested in how you would adjust for the Coriolis Effect in this situation.

 

[crosscreekcooter]

Actually I was more interested in how you would adjust for the Coriolis Effect in this situation.

That would depend on the direction of subject rotation and Cover's proximity to the equater (speed of rotation).

 

[cover2]

Dang it @crosscreekcooter using a musical reference from Barefoot Jerry and the CDB to describe your construction prowess, you “ain’t good lookin’ but you shore can play!” I appreciate the cc. Fact of the business, I’m always glad to get a viewpoint from somebody that’s done it and knows what they’re talking about. I’m at the point where I’ve got 40+ 8 ft. 5/4 boards to lay with not much in the way. Once I get the old stuff up, it’ll go down fairly fast, then it’ll be on to the steps and maybe doctoring up the posts. I’ll post some more pics along.

Now as far as my proximity to the equator, I reckon I’m just north of it. I’m not sure about that “Coriolis” business, unless my wife has some of it growing in the flower beds.

 

[bradgator2]

 

[oxrageous]

Does the sun set in the west out there?

 

[crosscreekcooter]

@cover2 -pretty sure Zambo was wondering what effect rubbin the coriolis would have