Who should Mullen's replacement be?

[Swamp Donkey]

Because there is literally nobody out there to get.

I wonder about people like this. It is just such a loser attitude.

the hilarious part is that they think it's hard to find a 3-4 loss coach. of all coaches win when they have more talent and even under Butters and Douchebag's horrendous recreuiting we have more talent than all the losers in the SEC East except Ugly.

You could hire any coach or coordinator in NCAA and you habe an 80% of having a 3 loss coach.

Obviously you would try to avoid the losers who manage to get whilped by Ga South, South Alabama, Kintucky, or nearly beaten by FAU etc.

We know we've hired three straight of these losers. Why you would keep a know loser, and a lazy one at that, who is destroying the program through horrible recruiting, I cant even think of a good readon.

There are no SOS, Sabans or Meyers, who are already champion coaches, out there for us to hire. This is true. We will have to roll the dice and try to find the next hot coordinator who is ready to make an elite team, the next Dabo, Lincoln Riley, or Ryan Day.

It may not workbut we KNOW Mullinz was never going to be a champion coach. He just doesnt have it in him, in any way (offense, defense, ST, recruiting, managing a staff etc.)

 

[soflagator]

This certainly seems to be the case and it is absolutely mind boggling to me. Not many people who become coaches get an opportunity like he did to be the head coach at a place like UF. No matter what your feeling is of the current state of the program, it is minimum a top 10-15 job - or could/should be. Yes, it is a tough job; long hours and lots of pressure, but it's not like he didn't know that coming in. Having watched Urbs up close and personal, he had to know what it took to be successful in Gainesville and yet, he thought he could pull it off with a boatload less effort? The only way it makes sense is if he really thought he could work that hard right up until nut cutting time and found he just didn't have it in him. So now he's just mailing it in until he gets canned and gets paid for doing nothing for several years.

It's one of the risks of these enormous salaries and contracts. How many millions had he already made by the time he got here? Now take it up a huge notch, throw a raise and extension in there which guarantees generational wealth, and you take a serious chance that the drive and commitment diminish. If you don't have a coach that demands nothing less than excellence from himself--out of sheer principle-- then you may very well end up incentivizing laziness. You can criticize Meyer's abrupt departure here, but he wasn't ok going through the motions and definitely not ok with the prospect of losing. Neither was Spurrier in Washington or in 2015. That's the difference between wanting to win and absolutely hating to lose.

At this point, Mullen is set for life. He likes to coach and call plays, and the whole things appears to be more a hobby than a career. I'm still of the opinion that he's safe this year and next year will be coaching for his life, a fate almost certainly already decided by then.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

That's the difference between wanting to win and absolutely hating to lose.

Exactly. Everyone WANTS to win. Most arent willing to do what it takes to prepare to win.

 

[jdh5484]

 

[soflagator]

Exactly. Everyone WANTS to win. Most arent willing to do what it takes to prepare to win.

Yeah, the entire profession is full of average guys walking around with millions in the bank. Most aren't actually that good, but once you're in the club, you're in. It's why you rarely see a complete flameout truly go away. Taggert has an absolutely dreadful career W/L record, has never done anything other than elevate a few down teams to mediocrity, and yet was unemployed for about 15 minutes before FAU stumbled over themselves to get him. The whole market has become a disaster with these salaries. It simply attracts people who like to do the job, and love the idea of being a multi-millionaire whether they're great at it or not. We're rewarding those guys instead of making them earn it. It just begs them to get comfortable and put it on cruise control.

 

[UFHealthGator]

I wonder about people like this. It is just such a loser attitude.

Swamp@$$ is entirely infected with that attitude. Somehow these days $7.6 million for Mullenzes and $2 million for Grantham is chump change. You could argue about how UF is cheap in many ways in terms of facilities, but coaches salaries ain't one of them.

Why you would keep a know loser, and a lazy one at that, who is destroying the program through horrible recruiting, I cant even think of a good readon.

I was rooting for Mullenzes at the beginning of his tenure. The loss to UGA in 2019 was when I started turning. Now it is 2021, losing again to Kentucky and will be skullfvvked by the leghumpers, with no relief in sight. I would even entertain keeping him if he was at least attempting to seriously ramp up his recruiting efforts and it looked like he is starting to reel in a top 5 class. But guess what? NOPE. Not happening.

 

[UFHealthGator]

The whole market has become a disaster with these salaries. It simply attracts people who like to do the job, and love the idea of being a multi-millionaire whether they're great at it or not. We're rewarding those guys instead of making them earn it. It just begs them to get comfortable and put it on cruise control.

Seriously this. How the fvvk did we get to this point? What were ADs thinking when they started doing those terms? I can't imagine a worse motivator than getting fired and being rewarded with millions of dollars for it.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Seriously this. How the fvvk did we get to this point? What were ADs thinking when they started doing those terms?

Firing AD failures would help.

This AD has now extended three coaches who were obviously failing and had to fire them in months. And all had problems known at the time of the extension.

If anyone in a real business were this incompetent theyd get fired the first time they fuchsed up royally.

 

[soflagator]

Seriously this. How the fvvk did we get to this point? What were ADs thinking when they started doing those terms? I can't imagine a worse motivator than getting fired and being rewarded with millions of dollars for it.

Like any business situation, all it takes is one school to agree to those terms and that agent can officially parlay it with every client. You would like to think a situation like Fisher and A&M would shake the entire system to the core, but I doubt it. There's also a lot of money within the top end boosters of nearly every school with a lot of passion, and not necessarily a ton of brains. Unfortunately, we are far from the exception in that regard.

 

[gardnerwebbgator]

Got to have HC experience. We don't need another Zook and Duncechump experiment.

Deboer, the guy at Fresno, has a 74-8 career record as a HC. Bill Clark, who has made UAB legit, is another one that would be light years ahead of Dip**** Dan.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Got to have HC experience. We don't need another Zook and Duncechump experiment.
.

Fuchstarded.

The problem is defensive (Zoom and Dunce) and conservative guys (Shark or Mullins) not whether they already amassed a 21-17 record at Colorado State or a losing record at Cowbell.

We dont need some west coast Fresno state shtt or Gardner Webb trash.

Three of the current four elite coaches were OC hires with no experience.

But stupid people keep repeating stupid shtt

 

[FireFoley]

I disagree. Search firms bring you the names that any talking head brings up, that is how they do the research. The school's requirements are why we are in the shyt mess we are in. We do not have thinkers in the administration!!!!

 

[FireFoley]

You could substitute Cousin Eddie's name here for Farmer Fran. I said that the Coon Azzes will waste no time getting rid of Farmer Fran. I am not saying this article is factual, nor would I say I agree with the possible names, I am just saying the same article should be written about Cousin Eddie.

College Football World Reacts To LSU Job Speculation

 

[MJMGator]

I just wish we had the will to go out and hire who we WANT, like Bama did. If you’re willing to pony up and commit to support, ANYONE can be had.

 

[Zodiac]

I wonder about people like this. It is just such a loser attitude.

the hilarious part is that they think it's hard to find a 3-4 loss coach. of all coaches win when they have more talent and even under Butters and Douchebag's horrendous recreuiting we have more talent than all the losers in the SEC East except Ugly.

You could hire any coach or coordinator in NCAA and you habe an 80% of having a 3 loss coach.

Obviously you would try to avoid the losers who manage to get whilped by Ga South, South Alabama, Kintucky, or nearly beaten by FAU etc.

We know we've hired three straight of these losers. Why you would keep a know loser, and a lazy one at that, who is destroying the program through horrible recruiting, I cant even think of a good readon.

There are no SOS, Sabans or Meyers, who are already champion coaches, out there for us to hire. This is true. We will have to roll the dice and try to find the next hot coordinator who is ready to make an elite team, the next Dabo, Lincoln Riley, or Ryan Day.

It may not workbut we KNOW Mullinz was never going to be a champion coach. He just doesnt have it in him, in any way (offense, defense, ST, recruiting, managing a staff etc.)

The reason you keep Mullen around is so you don't make the same mistake UF has been making since Meyer left. When you fire one loser only to higher another loser it makes the situation exponentially worse because you reset the clock 3-5 years. By keeping Mullen around, he is always on the hot seat, and when finally a proven winner emerges as a candidate that's when you fire Mullen and go full throttle after that guy. There are no winners out there to be had only losers and unproven coordinators.

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

Shoot, Foley don’t need no search firm. He can do it all by himself. He’s the smartest mofo in the history of AD’s. If you don’t believe me, just ask him and he’ll tell you.

 

[FireFoley]

The reason you keep Mullen around is so you don't make the same mistake UF has been making since Meyer left. When you fire one loser only to higher another loser it makes the situation exponentially worse because you reset the clock 3-5 years. By keeping Mullen around, he is always on the hot seat, and when finally a proven winner emerges as a candidate that's when you fire Mullen and go full throttle after that guy. There are no winners out there to be had only losers and unproven coordinators.

this is what I refer to as an "on the surface" response. Your nor I nor anyone knows that. You are saying that just based on the surface. There are winners out there, it is just a matter of doing the work and wanting to do the work. We do not have the potential access that money should have, so you just can't make a blanket statement like that. Their are plenty of proven DC's and OC's that will probably make awful head coaches. I can cite thousands of examples. there might be a winner at a small school and it can translate or vice versa. There is just a very small amount of people, regardless of their current position who just "Have It". I want UF to invest and find those types. They are rare, but they are out there. That is they type of result I would want from a research firm, etc. LSU took a low level offensive asst. coach from the NFL, he changed the LSU offense and now he is an NFL OC. will he be a great HC? Who knows, but he was someone that some work found. Lastly, if there was a "proven winner" out there by your definition, what makes anyone think that we could land him?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

By keeping Mullen around, he is always on the hot seat, and when finally a proven winner emerges as a candidate that's when you fire Mullen and go full throttle after that guy. .

Fuchsing retarded.

At least getting another just like the rest of the 80% who isnt too fuchsing lazy tomrecruit means the roster is better.

If there were a homerun hire available today or tomorrow, there is no way they consider Florida, not with our 10 year facilities upgrade to newer carpet squares and zero talent on the roster.

Its really pathetic how comfortable many of you are with losing.