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Silverback Gator

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The buyout is in the contract. The contract was extended 3 years. It is a flat buyout. Its not rocket science.
My point is that at the time the deal was made/signed our AD could have reasonably said "dan, you and your staff are not trending well, you don't demonstrate a process of successful staffs, you don't take advice, follow directions, and show well for the University." To me the deal said UF had no leverage, but they did. And now the fool is making a hell of a lot more money than he deserves.

I know he has a weak staff that owes him everything but I can't imagine it's a great place to work compared to other programs.
 

Swamp Donkey

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The buyout is in the contract. The contract was extended 3 years. It is a flat buyout. Its not rocket science.

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No fuchstard, the buyout can be a 1 million, 1 dollar or one penny.

Obviously no one goes to you for contract work.
 

neteng

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No fuchstard, the buyout can be a 1 million, 1 dollar or one penny.

Obviously no one goes to you for contract work.

So please tell us all what his buyout is because every where I look it says its the lesser of a flat buyout of 12 million or what is left on his contract (2+ year remaining at 7.6 a year).
 

neteng

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My point is that at the time the deal was made/signed our AD could have reasonably said "dan, you and your staff are not trending well, you don't demonstrate a process of successful staffs, you don't take advice, follow directions, and show well for the University." To me the deal said UF had no leverage, but they did. And now the fool is making a hell of a lot more money than he deserves.

I know he has a weak staff that owes him everything but I can't imagine it's a great place to work compared to other programs.

Dude...his buyout is crazy low. WTF are you talking about. I can't stand Striklin but if you think extending Mullen's contract by 3 years with a 12 million flat buyout is some sort of foundation of power for Mullen then you aren't understanding it very well. Maybe I am wrong about what his contract is based on donkey throwing a temper tantrum (without giving any sorta substance to back said temper tantrum) but its written in words of the English language in many different places saying so.
 

Swamp Donkey

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Dude...his buyout is crazy low. WTF are you talking about. I can't stand Striklin but if you think extending Mullen's contract by 3 years with a 12 million flat buyout is some sort of foundation of power for Mullen then you aren't understanding it very well. Maybe I am wrong about what his contract is based on donkey throwing a temper tantrum (without giving any sorta substance to back said temper tantrum) but its written in words of the English language in many different places saying so.
the truth is I could give you a copy of his contract which is probably 20 to 30 pages long and you wouldn't have a ****ing clue what it was.

it obviously doesn't matter much that you don't know what the **** you're talking about. it never has.

it doesn't matter that you don't know contracts or legal terms or for that matter an X from O when it comes to football, you're still here, babbling incessantly.
 

Silverback Gator

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Dude...his buyout is crazy low. WTF are you talking about. I can't stand Striklin but if you think extending Mullen's contract by 3 years with a 12 million flat buyout is some sort of foundation of power for Mullen then you aren't understanding it very well. Maybe I am wrong about what his contract is based on donkey throwing a temper tantrum (without giving any sorta substance to back said temper tantrum) but its written in words of the English language in many different places saying so.
My point is at the time of the contract there was no reason or obligation. Since Covid other schools have force their HCs to take pay cuts and low buyouts. Mullen got a raise. It should have been one or the other. You get a raise or a buyout. In retrospect he's been overpaid since he arrived.
 

Swamp Donkey

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My point is at the time of the contract there was no reason or obligation. Since Covid other schools have force their HCs to take pay cuts and low buyouts. Mullen got a raise. It should have been one or the other. You get a raise or a buyout. In retrospect he's been overpaid since he arrived.
You know.... at the time of signing the contract there was at least, objectively, UT trying to hire him also.

that says something about the job market.

of course I would never hire Dan Mullen, regardless, but there was another suitor digging through the dents and dings leftovers box.

last year we let him go test the NFL market, which resulted in laughter in his face, and frankly should have not given him any additional money. he's done nothing to deserve it. he's lucky he wasn't fired on the spot for the recruiting violation and the subsequent sanctions.
 

neteng

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Me thinks Swonkey thinks you're loony.

Im about as loony as one can get but it doesn't make me wrong.

the truth is I could give you a copy of his contract which is probably 20 to 30 pages long and you wouldn't have a ****ing clue what it was.

it obviously doesn't matter much that you don't know what the **** you're talking about. it never has.

it doesn't matter that you don't know contracts or legal terms or for that matter an X from O when it comes to football, you're still here, babbling incessantly.

I'm the one incessantly babbling? Look at the trail of nonsense letters that some barely look to be actual words that you just gave as a retort. Geesh...you ramble on and on about what a fuchstard I am and how I couldn't navigate my way around a contract but not a single peep in there about what exactly I said was wrong.

Here you go...I will say again...please correct me where I am wrong (correct me doesn't mean call me names and talk about all my contract reading comprehension inadequacies. I don't dispute my ability to read and understand contracts is probably vastly inferior to your ability or anyone else that works in that realm but what I do know is just because you call me names and throw a keyboard fit doesn't make what Im saying wrong.

Some time before 1 Jun, Mullen signed a 3 year extension to his existing contract that also raised his pay to 7.6 million a year. In that contract, the one written back in 2017 and was extended for 3 more years earlier this year, is the terms of his buyout which is the lesser between a flat 12 million OR the remaining balance of his contract.

Mullen one of highest-paid CFB coaches but buyout remains relatively low

Dan Mullen signs extension, receives significant raise
 

neteng

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My point is at the time of the contract there was no reason or obligation. Since Covid other schools have force their HCs to take pay cuts and low buyouts. Mullen got a raise. It should have been one or the other. You get a raise or a buyout. In retrospect he's been overpaid since he arrived.

No duh. Is your only point that Mullen aint worth 7.6M dollars? Wow...thanks Cpt Obvious because everyone here never thought about that once. Hey...did you know we landed on the moon? Also, did you know that when he got his extension nothing in the verbage about his buyout changed?

Guess what, since you are finally catching up with 10-27-2021...Mullen is definitely worth the very low sum of a 12 million buyout to get rid of him for good.
 

Swamp Donkey

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Journalist morons with no more legal understanding than you.

They got the paragragh that said buyout, skimmed to the original number of 12 million (which was what it was in 2017) and grabbed another contract to read because this project was due in hours.

This is the truth:

1) Stricklin gets fired first;
2) Mullet gets fired shortly thereafter, for cause;
3) The buyout will be about halfish of Butters'.


By the way have you noticed no one coming out and expressing their support for Stricklin? or commented on the articles at all?

Have you noticed Stricklin hasn't even been heard from for 3 weeks?
 

Silverback Gator

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No duh. Is your only point that Mullen aint worth 7.6M dollars? Wow...thanks Cpt Obvious because everyone here never thought about that once. Hey...did you know we landed on the moon? Also, did you know that when he got his extension nothing in the verbage about his buyout changed?

Guess what, since you are finally catching up with 10-27-2021...Mullen is definitely worth the very low sum of a 12 million buyout to get rid of him for good.
Are you as dumb as you sound?
 

Albert

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Anyone ever see a CEO that just missed 3 quarters of earnings projections speak publicly? It sounds just like Mullen. And they will suffer the same fate. Mullen already knows it.
 

neteng

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Journalist morons with no more legal understanding than you.

They got the paragragh that said buyout, skimmed to the original number of 12 million (which was what it was in 2017) and grabbed another contract to read because this project was due in hours.

This is the truth:

1) Stricklin gets fired first;
2) Mullet gets fired shortly thereafter, for cause;
3) The buyout will be about halfish of Butters'.


By the way have you noticed no one coming out and expressing their support for Stricklin? or commented on the articles at all?

Have you noticed Stricklin hasn't even been heard from for 3 weeks?

It would be really cool if you was half as smart as you think you are.

So, tell me what his buyout is in his contract and not what you predict will happen.
 

Silverback Gator

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Anyone ever see a CEO that just missed 3 quarters of earnings projections speak publicly? It sounds just like Mullen. And they will suffer the same fate. Mullen already knows it.
And if that CEO said it will take three years to return our stock price to normal the sell off would be devastating. But Mullen would have to totally retool his staff- and it's not as if he has a deep assistant coaching pipeline. He probably has no idea who he would hire in place of his staff and most coaches wouldn't likely want to work for him. Sensing that is probably why he's failed to upgrade. The sad truth is that because Mullen let recruiting deteriorate even if he replaced his staff with better assistants and a wiley DC, we are two seasons from being competitive. We really aren't as talented as some would like to believe. And if we do have top 10 talent why are we unranked?
 

Thought Criminal

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he's lucky he wasn't fired on the spot for the recruiting violation and the subsequent sanctions.

speaking of... the quote below from an Outkick article today. We all know Mullen can't recruit, but right now he REALLY can't, at least not on the road, per the sanctions. So why the evasive answers? Seems that "no" would be simple enough if your goal was to keep your job:

"On Monday, a reporter asked Mullen several times whether he had personally been out recruiting, to which he replied, “I am not going to get into the specifics of where everybody went or what’s going on with it.” Mullen was then asked again whether he had personally been on the road recruiting, and he did not bite. “I am not even gonna comment on any of that stuff, on who was where, why and how.”"
 
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