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Apparently your son only watches football, perhaps you need to expand his view.
You’re retarded
Apparently your son only watches football, perhaps you need to expand his view.
We aren’t disrespected. We’ve earned it.Call it what you want. Damaged, dinged or whatever. However, I have not seen a preseason poll list us higher than 30th. SB nation has us behind FAU. So at the very least we are dissrespected.
Man I hope the games prove all wring.
Go Gators!
You’re retarded
I really don't care if the brand is damaged. All I want is for us to look respectable even while losing. I want us to be in the best physical shape we can be, know the plays, give 100% effort, be technically correct. I want roster balance, I want competent QBs. I never, ever want only 6 OLs in the roster or just one QB like in the past. 5*s, we have had 5* recently, what have they done for us? When you look like crap against UMass, when you let UMass push you around, when their QB looks better than yours, you have reached bottom.
Yes and no. Foley and his minions became increasingly convinced over time in the righteousness of supporting all sports equally, men's and women's, as well as the notion that the all-sports trophy was the ultimate goal. The fallout was having football fall behind and not having a quick fix for getting it back on track.
And there we rest, the finest athletic department in the land top to bottom sans the program that matters most, football.
I disagree, there is nothing that says supporting all of our sports would result in football declining. Sure he and I bet many sponsors thought that not running up debt was in our long term interests. I bet Foley thought those hires would work out and were the best we could obtain.
I remember folks wanting various coaches who would not come, they are not slaves and money is not everything.
Now our facilities have not kept up and Foley is responsible for that, it is being addressed.
Nobody should think a mistake or difference of opinion means that Foley did not want success for all our sports, especially the most important one which is of course football.
He even chintzed on our IPF. Northwestern is spending $30M on theirs. We spent $15M. Northwestern spending more money on their facilities?
The man was a bean counter. He even contributed money back to the university for god's sake. Meanwhile, our dorms look like shyt.
So if I run a sales organization and you're my top producer, should I pass on the big leads to you or the guy making 50k a year?I disagree, there is nothing that says supporting all of our sports would result in football declining. Sure he and I bet many sponsors thought that not running up debt was in our long term interests. I bet Foley thought those hires would work out and were the best we could obtain.
I remember folks wanting various coaches who would not come, they are not slaves and money is not everything.
Now our facilities have not kept up and Foley is responsible for that, it is being addressed.
Nobody should think a mistake or difference of opinion means that Foley did not want success for all our sports, especially the most important one which is of course football.
Sure but I bet construction there costs way more than construction here. And money is not everything, but spending it effectively is.
I have no problem being critical of the administration and Foley, just not their motives being to destroy football while supporting every other sport.
And giving back is a good thing, not a bad one.
30th after multiple 4-8 seasons is actually somewhat overrated.We aren’t disrespected. We’ve earned it.
So if I run a sales organization and you're my top producer, should I pass on the big leads to you or the guy making 50k a year?
Giving back is great but not when you are falling behind in facilities. Football is the engine that drives that train. It's not one of the sports, it is the sport, the moneymaker.
I agree football makes the revenue, but giving back some is always good and we have been doing it for a long time.
Now when you are falling behind and it makes a difference (I think it does) you raise more money by convincing folks that it is important. SOS and Foley are supposed to be doing that.
And as a graduate, every Gator in every sport is equally important as part of my Gator family, perhaps you don't agree that is fine.
Perhaps you are not a graduate as well, I don't know or care, there is room for all.
Exactly. It's that kind of ignorant mindset that got GE on trouble. They committed to be all things to all people instead of focusing on what made them great. Their stock has plummeted 76% since 07/01/00.That's admirable Chief, but unfortunately every sport isn't equal. They just aren't. From what I've seen, Football generates about $50M a year after expenses. Basketball is slightly in the black and all other sports are $20M in the red. Based on that, why would anyone siphon so much money from football to support the sports in the red to the point that you have to raise funds to get football what it needs to continue to generate the revenue that supports the entire enterprise?
This makes no fiscal sense to me. Perhaps its thinking like this that has resulted in a drop of Booster contributions by $9M year over year. When you don't give the customer what they want, you lose your customer and then you don't have any money for your pet projects.