Notre Dame has no business in the playoff

[NOLAGATOR]

Pure media darling.

The'll set torched.

 

[Pablos Tunnel]

Ucf is more deserving then Notre dame. The committee had an opportunity here to force Notre dame's hand in joining a conference. Absolutely bullshcit . Maybe we should go independent, play a soft as hell schedule and bypass a conference championship game. Hell, wed be in the playoffs every damn year!. **** Notre dame

Excellent point.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Ucf is more deserving then Notre dame. The committee had an opportunity here to force Notre dame's hand in joining a conference. Absolutely bullshcit . Maybe we should go independent, play a soft as hell schedule and bypass a conference championship game. Hell, wed be in the playoffs every damn year!. **** Notre dame

This is one of those "that did not come from my loins" moments.

ND has like 4 wins over ranked teams and 10 wins over power 5 teams and UCF has zero and zero. It's really pretty clear to anyone who was an Fetal Alcohol Syndrome baby with diminished brain function.

ND vs OSU is a different argument entirely. At least there IS an argument.

 

[Pablos Tunnel]

There are several teams more deserving than ND. But more to T-gators point. ND is ducking the big boys. They need to be in a p5 conference and take the shots, run the gauntlet, the rest of the teams do. They would be a mid level SEC program.

 

[Pablos Tunnel]

Clemson is a 11.5 point favorite. What would the odds be against Ohio State, UCF or Georgia or any of the top four teams in the SEC?

 

[t-gator]

This is one of those "that did not come from my loins" moments.

ND has like 4 wins over ranked teams and 10 wins over power 5 teams and UCF has zero and zero. It's really pretty clear to anyone who was an Fetal Alcohol Syndrome baby with diminished brain function.

ND vs OSU is a different argument entirely. At least there IS an argument.

I was bashing Notre dame more than pumping ucf. Ofcourse ucf doesn't deserve to get in. They're a joke too.

The point is OSU should be in and Notre dame should be out. They agreed to play 6 games a year in the big east but refuse to join their conference at least with football. While Everyone is putting their playoff Hope's in the line Notre Dame's at home watching and getting healthy.

 

[KronoGator]

ND basically plays an ACC schedule but doesn't have to play in the title game, nice set up they have.

 

[Gatormac2112]

I hate ND, but I would rather see them win it than UGA by a long shot.

Guess what? ND ain’t winning anything.

 

[Zodiac]

Gotta love college football where strength of schedule is more important than conference championship hardware.

Fact is Notre Dame had a bye week on championship week. Which were de facto playoff games for Alabama, Clemson and Oklahoma.

It's been long past due for Notre Dame to get with the program. If you want to be isolated from conference affiliation than it is only fair to the rest of us that you should be isolated from the playoffs too.

 

[5-Star Finger]

I'd rather have them in the Playoffs than give the leghumpers another chance at a natty.

There's truth here - but the downside is that will will not get to feast on the river of tears when the Bulldogs inevitably choke away said chance as they have been since Betamax was a thing.

 

[5-Star Finger]

March Madness expanded to 68 teams, and what happens every year? Teams 69-72 throw a b*tch fit when they don’t get in. Nothing will ever solve the problem of the first few teams left out. Someone always has to be left out.

I get it, but it is different in football. Can you think of a year where you could legitimately name even 10 teams that would have a serious shot in the playoffs? I can think of more than a few where I could name 6-8 that would have a puncher's chance, but never 10 legit teams. Mostly because those top teams have already settled so much on the field. I realize the same thing happens in basketball - but the number of games dilutes that some.

 

[gatorev12]

I've always had a strong dislike for the arrogant, entitled Irish. They should not get into the playoff unless and until they join a conference. Let them play in a major bowl - fine. Just don't allow them to compete for a national title. They are in the ACC in all other sports, why not football?

Joining a conference would see them abandoning rivalries and matchups they have built up over decades. If they joined the ACC, they would have to stop playing Michigan State, Navy, Stanford, and USC every year.

Laugh at Navy being on the list all you want: the reason they are is because Navy controls the scheduling for that game and has never asked for the series not to happen. It started in WWII when ND was having enrollment issues with so many college-aged men enlisting and they were thinking of shutting down until the war was over. The Dept of the Navy stepped in to open an ROTC branch there and ND said they'd play Navy in football in exchange (and during those years, Navy was actually pretty good). ND said they would play the series for as long as Navy wants and here we are. Thought the background was kinda cool.

 

[Pablos Tunnel]

Joining a conference would see them abandoning rivalries and matchups they have built up over decades. If they joined the ACC, they would have to stop playing Michigan State, Navy, Stanford, and USC every year.

Laugh at Navy being on the list all you want: the reason they are is because Navy controls the scheduling for that game and has never asked for the series not to happen. It started in WWII when ND was having enrollment issues with so many college-aged men enlisting and they were thinking of shutting down until the war was over. The Dept of the Navy stepped in to open an ROTC branch there and ND said they'd play Navy in football in exchange (and during those years, Navy was actually pretty good). ND said they would play the series for as long as Navy wants and here we are. Thought the background was kinda cool.

So keep the Navy game. We play a full SEC schedule, a couple cupcakes and FSU. They could axe the USC or UM game; or join the Big 10 or Pac12

 

[URGatorBait]

UF played Charleston Southern, Co State and Idaho in the regular season....But yea, adding 1 more game in the post season is going to make the regular season meaningless

Here's an idea...how about these teams drop a meaningless cupcake week to make the regular season more important and add a playoff week at the end of the season. It's only been since what 2006? since it was expanded to a 12 game regular season, for UF.

 

[TheDouglas78]

UF played Charleston Southern, Co State and Idaho in the regular season....But yea, adding 1 more game in the post season is going to make the regular season meaningless

Here's an idea...how about these teams drop a meaningless cupcake week to make the regular season more important and add a playoff week at the end of the season. It's only been since what 2006? since it was expanded to a 12 game regular season, for UF.

URG look at the playoff field, can you find 4 more teams that have a resume that is deserving of playing for a National Title. I understand/agree with the argument that OSU should be in over ND. The argument to expand the playoffs, if you took the current playoff rankings, Florida would be in the 9th position one spot away from the playoffs is Florida worth being that close to playing for a National Title?

this year the extra four teams would be UGA, OSU, Michigan, and UCF. Two of those teams have 2 losses, OSU has a good argument for being in the top 4, and UCF didn't play anyone that shows they are worthy to play for the title.

 

[Zodiac]

It might be easier if division 1 football dwindled itself down to 24 teams(based off all-time wins. Two divisions of 12.

That would be:
Michigan
Oklahoma
Texas
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Alabama
Nebraska
Penn State
USC
Tennessee
Georgia
LSU
Auburn
West Virginia
Washington
Virginia Tech
Texas A&M
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Pittsburgh
Florida
Arkansas
Syracuse
Navy

Winner of each division plays each other for National Championship. No more cupcake games, no more trash polls and subjective biases dominating the sport. Every week is a challenge.

With no FSU or Miami, Florida would effectively monopolize the recruiting in the state. We would be a juggernaut dwarfing them all, even Alabama.

 

[78]

It might be easier if division 1 football dwindled itself down to 24 teams(based off all-time wins. Two divisions of 12.

That would be:
Michigan
Oklahoma
Texas
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Alabama
Nebraska
Penn State
USC
Tennessee
Georgia
LSU
Auburn
West Virginia
Washington
Virginia Tech
Texas A&M
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Pittsburgh
Florida
Arkansas
Syracuse
Navy

Winner of each division plays each other for National Championship. No more cupcake games, no more trash polls and subjective biases dominating the sport. Every week is a challenge.

With no FSU or Miami, Florida would effectively monopolize the recruiting in the state. We would be a juggernaut dwarfing them all, even Alabama.

You mind me asking the logic behind including Navy and excluding FSU or Miami? Or is this just a make believe game of Army?

 

[URGatorBait]

URG look at the playoff field, can you find 4 more teams that have a resume that is deserving of playing for a National Title. I understand/agree with the argument that OSU should be in over ND. The argument to expand the playoffs, if you took the current playoff rankings, Florida would be in the 9th position one spot away from the playoffs is Florida worth being that close to playing for a National Title?

this year the extra four teams would be UGA, OSU, Michigan, and UCF. Two of those teams have 2 losses, OSU has a good argument for being in the top 4, and UCF didn't play anyone that shows they are worthy to play for the title.

I wouldn't say they are that close to the national title. The games still have to be played, and I prefer to have them played on the field, not on paper, crazy I know

I can see arguments for 6 or 8 teams, I wouldn't have a problem with either one. From before this change I was never really a proponent of a 4 team playoff, wanted it to be 6 to 8 from the get go.

I'm not going to nit pick over single year outliers like UCF. And let's face it, even in this scenario, who really thinks UCF would survive the gauntlet of a 3 game playoff series. I don't. UF blew their shot to be in the top 8 when they lost to a poor mizzou team and now have 3 L's.

My overlying point is, I just don't buy the argument that adding one more game to the playoff system is going to greatly weaken the regular season. A regular season that typically sees major teams playing upwards of 3 non conference cupcakes a year. Those games are meaningless!