POLL: Who's your Favorite Women's World Cup Soccer Player?

neteng · Jul 8, 2019

maheo30 said:
Americans are so blatantly ignorant about soccer that they actually think the WWC was the biggest soccer event in the Americas. No, it wasn’t.

I grew up playing the game and love it. I follow the EPL and Champions League, though not as much as I used to. I really have no desire to watch the WWC. It is boring. I really dont even want to watch the men's national team ever since they rehired Bruce Arena. His brand of futbol sucks.

g8r.tom · Jul 8, 2019

neteng said:
I grew up playing the game and love it. I follow the EPL and Champions League, though not as much as I used to. I really have no desire to watch the WWC. It is boring. I really dont even want to watch the men's national team ever since they rehired Bruce Arena. His brand of futbol sucks.

He isn't the coach anymore.

neteng · Jul 8, 2019

g8r.tom said:
He isn't the coach anymore.

Really? Who is now?

g8r.tom · Jul 8, 2019

Gregg Berhalter

g8r.tom · Jul 8, 2019

Gregg Berhalter Named Head Coach of U.S. Men's National Team

neteng · Jul 8, 2019

Good Gawd. Berhalter? SMDH. Why would we hire him unless we just want to keep playing futbol the soccer way.

Durty South Swamp · Jul 8, 2019

neteng said:
I grew up playing the game and love it. I follow the EPL and Champions League, though not as much as I used to. I really have no desire to watch the WWC. It is boring. I really dont even want to watch the men's national team ever since they rehired Bruce Arena. His brand of futbol sucks.

he was fired a long time ago. berhalter is now coach and believe it or not, the team has been playing really well. Theyve been much more of an attacking style with some real flair. Soccer in the US is just played a bit differently than in other countries, we've tried in the past to make US soccer and the US team play like the european teams and it just hasnt worked. Berhalter has them playing with the staple components of physicality and toughness, but with a real noticeable level of attacking offense. Its the best ive seen US soccer in quite some time. they lost yesterday to mexico 1-0 but it was the concacaf gold cup final. After failing to qualify for the next world cup under arenas and that german turd, I'd say theyve had some pretty significant improvement.

Back Alley Gator · Jul 8, 2019

5-Star Finger said:
I really want to like soccer. Like I want to like hockey. I just can't. I manage to like hockey during the Olympics (of course I also find a way to like curling). But then I stop caring again until the next time. I'm like an amnesia patient.

I wish I could like this more than once....

Scott512 · Jul 8, 2019

Double Gator Dad said:
There is NOTHING Trump could possibly do that would give him a big win with this crowd. They hate him so much that they would manufacture a reason to criticize him even if he accomplished what you’re suggesting

Maybe so. But he should try he should put pressure on the United States soccer Federation leaders to bump up the women on the national team. I Look to do the same for women's hockey women's basketball and whatever else women's sports we have with a national team. I think we know whatever Trump does some will criticize him for it. He's very tough and he's used to it by now. I could never handle it in a million years. But Trump is a different animal.

gatorev12 · Jul 8, 2019

Durty South Swamp said:
he was fired a long time ago. berhalter is now coach and believe it or not, the team has been playing really well. Theyve been much more of an attacking style with some real flair. Soccer in the US is just played a bit differently than in other countries, we've tried in the past to make US soccer and the US team play like the european teams and it just hasnt worked. Berhalter has them playing with the staple components of physicality and toughness, but with a real noticeable level of attacking offense. Its the best ive seen US soccer in quite some time. they lost yesterday to mexico 1-0 but it was the concacaf gold cup final. After failing to qualify for the next world cup under arenas and that german turd, I'd say theyve had some pretty significant improvement.

Going to have to disagree with that: Berhalter has an excellent first 20-25 minute gameplan in every game I've seen him as a US coach...but in just about every game, once they weather the opening minutes and adjust tactically, the other team slowly creeps into the game and then starts to take control and dominate.

The pre-Gold Cup friendlies were disasters for that reason; and we saw the above play out in multiple games this Gold Cup too (vs Panama, Curacao, Jamaica, and mexico).

I wasn't a huge fan of the Berhalter hire: the process was abject stupidity in the first place--why in the world wait over a year to sign a head coach only to hire a MLS coach that could have been available 1 month after we fired Arena?!? That's on our federation, not on Berhalter, but he's made a number of dumb decisions since taking the job.

Most visible yesterday when you replace Altidore with Zardes; and...despite needing a goal and having a fast, goal-scoring winger on the bench, you put in a LB with 5 minutes to go??

He was noticeably out-coached yesterday and while it's no disgrace losing to Tata or mexico in general; it's even more irritating when Tata was available and pointedly said that no one from USSF contacted him during the full year our job sat vacant. It's inexcusable incompetence from our federation not to at least pick up the phone and see if he was interested: the guy coached Argentina and Barcelona; and coached in MLS for two years with Atlanta.

He does have us playing more disciplined than either Klinsmann or Arena; but I'm not sure either of those two represent a high bar.

T REX · Jul 8, 2019

gatorev12 said:
Going to have to disagree with that: Berhalter has an excellent first 20-25 minute gameplan in every game I've seen him as a US coach...but in just about every game, once they weather the opening minutes and adjust tactically, the other team slowly creeps into the game and then starts to take control and dominate.

The pre-Gold Cup friendlies were disasters for that reason; and we saw the above play out in multiple games this Gold Cup too (vs Panama, Curacao, Jamaica, and mexico).

I wasn't a huge fan of the Berhalter hire: the process was abject stupidity in the first place--why in the world wait over a year to sign a head coach only to hire a MLS coach that could have been available 1 month after we fired Arena?!? That's on our federation, not on Berhalter, but he's made a number of dumb decisions since taking the job.

Most visible yesterday when you replace Altidore with Zardes; and...despite needing a goal and having a fast, goal-scoring winger on the bench, you put in a LB with 5 minutes to go??

He was noticeably out-coached yesterday and while it's no disgrace losing to Tata or mexico in general; it's even more irritating when Tata was available and pointedly said that no one from USSF contacted him during the full year our job sat vacant. It's inexcusable incompetence from our federation not to at least pick up the phone and see if he was interested: the guy coached Argentina and Barcelona; and coached in MLS for two years with Atlanta.

He does have us playing more disciplined than either Klinsmann or Arena; but I'm not sure either of those two represent a high bar.

Great post. The men's program will take a while to get rid of the stench of Sunil Gulati. That guy should've been fired a long time ago.

gatorev12 · Jul 8, 2019

T REX said:
Great post. The men's program will take a while to get rid of the stench of Sunil Gulati. That guy should've been fired a long time ago.

That and the "lost generation" of players born between 1990-1996. Two straight cycles of sub optimal talent that either never truly made it or failed to make the professional jump.

Our youth teams from 2009-2013 consistently under-performed at intl competitions and almost none of them went on to have productive NT careers. Really, only Yedlin and Morris from those years can be considered as consistent NT players; and few can even be consisered to be reliable club players either (Nagbe, Trapp, Zardes, Shea, Kitchen, Agudelo, etc). There's a massive hole of players in their mid to late 20s from those eras who failed to develop or push the late 80s bunch from the team (Bradley, Altidore, Omar Gonzales, etc). Those three are all talented and have parts to play...but for us to be as reliant on them for so long with no one pushing them for their spots led to complacency and stagnation--culminanting in us missing the WC.

We do have a ton of talent starting to push through and get minutes both in Europe and MLS and the future generations of players >23 look pretty good (Pulisic, Adams, McKennie, etc). The U20s had a nice WC run this summer and the U17s look strong too. Teams that consistently make the quarterfinals at youth tournaments have seen improvement at the senior level (see Spain, Uruguay, France, and England's improved form these last few intl cycles).

MidwestChomp · Jul 9, 2019

Berhalter was hired because USA soccer is a boys club and want to see MLS succeed. So they tried hard at first to use Gregg's MLS guys and it sucked. Berhalter's style is a play out of the back possession based play D game. As a former keeper for many years, I actually hate that style. I want a high pressing attacking style. None of this pass it around the back and hope for an opening or just cross it and hope for the best.

I consider Berhalter the Muschamp of soccer. Play D and hope to win 1 to 0. He can't coach offense and makes poor sub decisions. Now, could he work out? Maybe, but I'm not holding my breath. Tata Martino should be the coach is USA soccer, but they said he didn't speak English well. Who the eff cares, he's a great coach.

They had their chances vs Mexico, but Ochoa is a great keeper and Tata made some great adjustments. However it was great to see McKennie and Pulisic play great. Also usa was not playing with 3 of their best players, Brooks, Yedlin, and Adams. Mexico was not playing with some of their great players either.

The women kicked ass and play a much more exciting style than the men. Maybe Jill Kelly can give Gregg some pointers. Congrats to the women. What a great tournament for them.

itsgr82bag8r · Jul 9, 2019

maheo30 said:
Americans are so blatantly ignorant about soccer that they actually think the WWC was the biggest soccer event in the Americas. No, it wasn’t.

That’s because it wasn’t in the Americas, it was in Europe.

:grin:

Durty South Swamp · Jul 9, 2019

MidwestChomp said:
Berhalter was hired because USA soccer is a boys club and want to see MLS succeed. So they tried hard at first to use Gregg's MLS guys and it sucked. Berhalter's style is a play out of the back possession based play D game. As a former keeper for many years, I actually hate that style. I want a high pressing attacking style. None of this pass it around the back and hope for an opening or just cross it and hope for the best.

I consider Berhalter the Muschamp of soccer. Play D and hope to win 1 to 0. He can't coach offense and makes poor sub decisions. Now, could he work out? Maybe, but I'm not holding my breath. Tata Martino should be the coach is USA soccer, but they said he didn't speak English well. Who the eff cares, he's a great coach.

They had their chances vs Mexico, but Ochoa is a great keeper and Tata made some great adjustments. However it was great to see McKennie and Pulisic play great. Also usa was not playing with 3 of their best players, Brooks, Yedlin, and Adams. Mexico was not playing with some of their great players either.

The women kicked ass and play a much more exciting style than the men. Maybe Jill Kelly can give Gregg some pointers. Congrats to the women. What a great tournament for them.

the team has been much more offensive minded and attacking since berhalter took over, believe it or not.

T REX · Jul 9, 2019

Women's World Cup Final Ratings Top Men's 2018 Championship by 22%

Just numbers...I'm not claiming anything...just posting the numbers.

gatorev12 · Jul 9, 2019

T REX said:
Women's World Cup Final Ratings Top Men's 2018 Championship by 22%

Just numbers...I'm not claiming anything...just posting the numbers.

Look up the numbers for total worldwide viewers of the 2018 Men's World Cup Final and compare it to the women's.

It will once again be a difference measured in the billions.

MidwestChomp · Jul 9, 2019

Durty South Swamp said:
the team has been much more offensive minded and attacking since berhalter took over, believe it or not.

I've watched every game since Gregg took over. I'll believe it when I see it, but if you are comparing him to Arena and Jurgen then maybe. They still don't attack enough and possession based soccer is for Muschamp fans.

Berhalter's style is built around the old Dutch system, which worked back in the day. Gregg played professionally in The Netherlands and much of the USA soccer executives have experience with the Dutch. The interesting thing is the new Dutch coach and soccer execs have abandoned that style because it has gotten them no where fast.

Ultimately what needs to happen is to bring up the young guys from the awesome U20 team to replace the old guys, and it needs to happen now.

gatorev12 · Jul 9, 2019

Durty South Swamp said:
the team has been much more offensive minded and attacking since berhalter took over, believe it or not.

Again, I've yet to see that. January-camp games aren't really determinative of anything since they're largely experimental sides testing out new players and formations; and our other friendlies have been less than convincing (a 1-1 tie with Chile in which they were the better team; a 1-0 win vs Ecuador on a fluke goal; a 1-0 win vs a young mexico team; a 1-0 loss to Jamaica that was playing mostly USL players; and a 3-0 loss to a full-strength Venezuela). I already mentioned the less than convincing performances at the Gold Cup vs Panama, Jamaica (yes, we won 3-1, but Jamaica dominated that match after the lightning delay until Pulisic sealed it with a goal against the run of play), Curacao, and mexico.

For the first 25 minutes or so, Berhalter is brilliant. Once the other teams make tactical adjustments, he struggles to respond. And if we don't get an early goal during the first part of the game, our team tends to struggle and look very unconvincing the rest of the game.

T REX · Jul 9, 2019

gatorev12 said:
Look up the numbers for total worldwide viewers of the 2018 Men's World Cup Final and compare it to the women's.

It will once again be a difference measured in the billions.

I know this. You know I know this. They're just numbers that I posted that are recent. I would venture a guess that if the Men's team was actually playing then their numbers would beat the women's. BUT, they couldn't even qualify.

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