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Recruiting 2019 NSD: 4* DE Khris Bogle and 4* CB Elam signs
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BruceWayne
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I think we have to recruit in the top 5 of the league and get in the top 3 the next two years if we want to compete at all with Uglay and Bama.
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Very little difference between this thread and the "convinced' thread.
One set of posters looking at the relative improvement versus another that is dead set on total potential.
Improvement tends to happen in increments, not in one fell swoop.
One set of posters looking at the relative improvement versus another that is dead set on total potential.
Improvement tends to happen in increments, not in one fell swoop.
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Why aren't they both top 10 by Rivals, the SD gold standard? Now perhaps you mean you trust the new staff to develop the class more.
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What's your point? Is this supposed to contest my opinion that our recruiting class is great under the circumstances?
Sober up.
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5 big winners from National Signing Day
Florida: The Gators shot up to No. 9 in the 247Sports Composite Team Recruiting Rankings as they continue to pad what is arguably the best back-eight group haul in the nation. One of the country’s top pass rushers in Khris Bogle flipped his verbal from the Crimson Tide to the Gators to start the morning and in the afternoon Top247 cornerback Kaiir Elam also joined the fold, choosing Florida over Georgia. Both consensus Top100 recruits add to a group that includes Top247 cornerbacks Chris Steele and Jaydon Hill along with Top247 linebacker Tyron Hopper and Top247 edge players Mohamoud Diabate and Diwun Black.
Florida: The Gators shot up to No. 9 in the 247Sports Composite Team Recruiting Rankings as they continue to pad what is arguably the best back-eight group haul in the nation. One of the country’s top pass rushers in Khris Bogle flipped his verbal from the Crimson Tide to the Gators to start the morning and in the afternoon Top247 cornerback Kaiir Elam also joined the fold, choosing Florida over Georgia. Both consensus Top100 recruits add to a group that includes Top247 cornerbacks Chris Steele and Jaydon Hill along with Top247 linebacker Tyron Hopper and Top247 edge players Mohamoud Diabate and Diwun Black.
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This is a very good class, especially if you consider the slow start, but it's not a great class. A great class would be top 3 in the SEC and one that filled all our needs. Not getting a DT stings and may bite us if we don't get a grad transfer or a stud freshman that can play early. Still, Mullen did a great job the last two months, and it is encouraging to see us off to a much better start for the 2020 class.
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If Black had played, no one believes he'd be outside of the top 50. So if you replace him with the #50, we are ranked 6th. Add MAR, we'd be at #4 and add Moore to that and we're #3. Us missing out on Moore is a big deal, MAR not so much. Still, when you properly place Black we are a minimum of #6.
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In general terms this is as good of a class as we could have hoped for during the football season. Most thought we would finish ranked 12-15 at best and many feared worse. Without context one might say this class 'isn't good enough,' but with the context of recent coaches and knowing how the recruiting class played out, this is as good as could be imagined.
We seem to have done very well in many positions and well in all positions except DL. We have one position that wasn't substantially improved.
I think this line of thinking is wrong - not because we don't need to be leading recruiting rankings to be the best on the field - but because it buys into a discrete, descending value of the classes. Even if these rankings took 'needs met' into account (which they don't), they still wouldn't accurately show this kind of 6 is better than 7, 7 is better than 8, etc. reality. In reality, this is more of a tiered situation.
Tier 1 - Bammer, UGA
Tier 2 - aTm, LSU, UF, Barn, 11esee,
Tier 3 - USCe, Miss, Ark, Miss State
Tier 4 - UK, MO
Tear 5 - Vandy
Realistically, I don't think we will know how this class stacks up against others in our tier (or outside of it for that matter) until they've played a few years. As of now, we could have the 3rd or 7th best class in the SEC. With the balance in the class and the Orange & Blue glasses upon my nose, I'm excited about the class.
tl;dr - You've got to look at these rankings in a tiered arrangement, not strictly discrete, descending value of the classes.
We seem to have done very well in many positions and well in all positions except DL. We have one position that wasn't substantially improved.
I think this line of thinking is wrong - not because we don't need to be leading recruiting rankings to be the best on the field - but because it buys into a discrete, descending value of the classes. Even if these rankings took 'needs met' into account (which they don't), they still wouldn't accurately show this kind of 6 is better than 7, 7 is better than 8, etc. reality. In reality, this is more of a tiered situation.
Tier 1 - Bammer, UGA
Tier 2 - aTm, LSU, UF, Barn, 11esee,
Tier 3 - USCe, Miss, Ark, Miss State
Tier 4 - UK, MO
Tear 5 - Vandy
Realistically, I don't think we will know how this class stacks up against others in our tier (or outside of it for that matter) until they've played a few years. As of now, we could have the 3rd or 7th best class in the SEC. With the balance in the class and the Orange & Blue glasses upon my nose, I'm excited about the class.
tl;dr - You've got to look at these rankings in a tiered arrangement, not strictly discrete, descending value of the classes.
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Looking at rivals, even if Black were top 50, I still think we end up 5th in the SEC. And I agree that losing Moore is a big deal. Wish we would have gotten him. Almost having a great class is still the same as not having a great class.
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Yeah, the usual people went all gaga over Butterteeth's "top 10" class.
I will say, the two aren't comparable. Butterteeth had 4 star criminals or people no one else wanted and a bunch of 3 stars he stole from FAU. In that way, the numbers lie. Stealing a low 4 or a high 3 star that you are fighting other SEC schools is a much better player no matter what the ranking says.
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