Recruiting 2019 NSD: 4* DE Khris Bogle and 4* CB Elam signs

[InstiGATOR1]

Didn’t think you were allowed to post in this thread

Hard to believe that a man who has his own thread to complain in is slumming with those of us that think of this a recruiting rather than complaining.

 

[t-gator]

Jaren Handy and Byron Young are both delaying their signings to take visits. Thought we’d land one of the two or Bogle

Hopefully we're using this to put some pressure on the kid from utah.

 

[gatormandan]

Hard to believe that a man who has his own thread to complain in is slumming with those of us that think of this a recruiting rather than complaining.

The donk is praying we don't land top talent. It will prove he is wrong again and he hates to be wrong. Problem is, he is almost always wrong. Let the facepalms fly wronk oh I mean donk.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

If you don’t believe coaches will sour on a school, you haven’t been paying attention to what’s happened at UF. Meyer, Muschamp and McElwain have all burned bridges at schools. Hell look at us in Jax. We get next to nothing for just not talking to the guys. What happens when you seriously piss a coach off? If a kid is good enough for UL to offer, he’s got other significant offers.

Right you are had UF being averaging 600 yards a game, UF still would have gotten no players out of Jax. You burn a lot more bridges with say WRs by NOT THROWING THE BALL compared to making a high school coach mad. High school coaches have long not been very important in who a kid signs with. It is not 1960 any more.

As for Mr. Adkin's offer list:

Anthony Adkins

• LARUE COUNTY
• ATH
• 6-3
• 222
• CLASS OF 19

247Sports Composite
0.8357

• LOU67%
• Undecided33%

Interests

• 
  
  Georgia State
• Offer:Yes
• 
  
  LouisvilleCool
  Offer:Yes
• 
  
• 
  
  ArmyNone
  Offer:Yes
• 
  
• 
  
  Bowling GreenNone
  Offer:Yes
• 
  
  Western KentuckyNone
  Offer:Yes

Anthony Adkins Recruit Interests

 

[InstiGATOR1]

The donk is praying we don't land top talent. It will prove he is wrong again and he hates to be wrong. Problem is, he is almost always wrong. Let the facepalms fly wronk oh I mean donk.

No he LOVES to be wrong. As I asked him the other night, he never tires of being wrong. If he can't be wrong he can't be. That is why he is back on this thread rather than over on his dedicated thread being wrong.

1. For the 2017 class, he was ranting about how UF needed defensive tackles which was true and was sure UF would land zero. UF of course landed Campbell, Conliffe and Slaton and the word was UF would get the highest ranked guy Slaton but of course it was not certain. That lack of certainty is all SD needed to complain for months that UF would not get the d-tackles 300 lbs+ that it needed. After signing day he was happy until he switched focus to 2018.

2. For the 2018 class, he was ranting about what a terrible transition class it was for months. Just like this year he was ranting about UF not filling slots at the early signing date. UF close well last year and it was one of the best transition classes in UF history. He was happy for few days again until he turned his attention to Mullen's history of a bad bump class and the bump class of 2019.

We are of course living that now.

 

[Slevin]

The donk is praying we don't land top talent. It will prove he is wrong again and he hates to be wrong. Problem is, he is almost always wrong. Let the facepalms fly wronk oh I mean donk.

he just bytched about not getting recruits for months and months even though the title of the recruiting thread literally states we flipped two miami recruits within the last two weeks, and also got Nayquan Wright right before that too. He just makes up reasons to be upset

 

[rogdochar]

This is literally no different than every Butters year when we were going to flip Bammers linebackers (both) or the year before when we were going to flip both Meatchikn LBs, Ugly's five star QB etc.

The talk ain't coming from Mullen. And that talk has to be the same 'cause the drama-folks involved are the same types repeated every year. So talk similar to Butterfail talk, does not connect to what these 'actors' will actually do relating to Mullen's offer picture.

Swonkey, how does your low level get so high ?

 

[Omar's Coming Yo!]

You really don't want to piss off a powerful HS coach at a powerhouse program. You treat them very nicely, hand them some money under the table like Bama does and like Auburn used to do at a certain high school in Ft Lauderdale, you encourage certain graduates to donate new sod or donate generously at the fundraiser. Maybe HS coaches are not as powerful in Florida as they are in Texas but they can certain push certain kids to Bama...(cough) Jeudy (cough).

They can't keep you off campus. Cfb is a business and the coach should've had backup plan in place. Does he blast his players when they decommit and go elsewhere?

 

[5-Star Finger]

You really don't want to piss off a powerful HS coach at a powerhouse program. You treat them very nicely, hand them some money under the table like Bama does and like Auburn used to do at a certain high school in Ft Lauderdale, you encourage certain graduates to donate new sod or donate generously at the fundraiser. Maybe HS coaches are not as powerful in Florida as they are in Texas but they can certain push certain kids to Bama...(cough) Jeudy (cough).

Jeudy is far from the only kid that Bama has pulled this crap with in Florida. In fact, the stuff that goes on in the panhandle is insane and far easier for them to get away with because many more grads up there.

 

[CGgater]

So........ we gonna save a dozen seats and pray Feb is better than ESD? Is this what we are setting up now?

And if we filled the open spots with 3* talent, you’d complain we didn’t save room for potential studs. There’s a brand new thread created with you in mind. Go check it out. I’m sure you’ll feel right at home!

 

[alcoholica]

Right you are had UF being averaging 600 yards a game, UF still would have gotten no players out of Jax. You burn a lot more bridges with say WRs by NOT THROWING THE BALL compared to making a high school coach mad. High school coaches have long not been very important in who a kid signs with. It is not 1960 any more.

As for Mr. Adkin's offer list:

Anthony Adkins

• LARUE COUNTY
• ATH
• 6-3
• 222
• CLASS OF 19

247Sports Composite
0.8357

• LOU67%
• Undecided33%

Interests

• 
  
  Georgia State
• Offer:Yes
• 
  
  LouisvilleCool
  Offer:Yes
• 
  
• 
  
  ArmyNone
  Offer:Yes
• 
  
• 
  
  Bowling GreenNone
  Offer:Yes
• 
  
  Western KentuckyNone
  Offer:Yes

Anthony Adkins Recruit Interests

What don’t you get? If coaches don’t talk to the coaches, they can’t vouch for your culture. If their only experience is that you you were an ass, then they have grounds to bad mouth your culture.

You realize the coaches are father figures for a lot of these guys. They have sway. The coaches also care for their players. Why would they send a kid somewhere they don’t trust.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

What don’t you get? If coaches don’t talk to the coaches, they can’t vouch for your culture. If their only experience is that you you were an ass, then they have grounds to bad mouth your culture.

You realize the coaches are father figures for a lot of these guys. They have sway. The coaches also care for their players. Why would they send a kid somewhere they don’t trust.

Yep is is 1967 again and you are Gatorbait talking to high school coaches to determine where players are going to go.

 

[alcoholica]

Yep is is 1967 again and you are Gatorbait talking to high school coaches to determine where players are going to go.

you don't pay attention to anything at all do you. Why do you think Seider is so highly regarded as a recruiter? He has very good relationships with the coaches in the territory that he covers. It's not all about the coach and high school relationship, but it is very significant. If you don't understand this, then you just aren't credible in this thread.

 

[GatorJ]

We actually had a couple coaches that were not allowed back in a couple schools. Just a few years back.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

We actually had a couple coaches that were not allowed back in a couple schools. Just a few years back.

I remember that. Last 2 staffs we had we're an absolute embarrassment to UF... And Foley gave them raises

 

[Swamp Donkey]

. High school coaches have long not been very important in who a kid signs with. It is not 1960 any more.

The best recruiters in the country disagree with you completely. It is why they are the best recruiters. Of course, playing an unattractive style of football also matters a lot also.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I remember that. Last 2 staffs we had we're an absolute embarrassment to UF... And Foley gave them raises

One of the many things I was wrong about. Those guys were going to win it all and rebuild and RISE GATOR NATIONRISE and yet they sucked.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

you don't pay attention to anything at all do you. Why do you think Seider is so highly regarded as a recruiter? He has very good relationships with the coaches in the territory that he covers. It's not all about the coach and high school relationship, but it is very significant. If you don't understand this, then you just aren't credible in this thread.

Seider learned directly at the feet of Doc Holliday, one of our best recruiters ever. Doc said multiple times, we recruit the HS coaches first and foremost.

I'd say anyone who doesn't think a HS coach has a lot of influence in a kids life has never played sports. I'd bet an oxen's nut Insti never has.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

you don't pay attention to anything at all do you. Why do you think Seider is so highly regarded as a recruiter? He has very good relationships with the coaches in the territory that he covers. It's not all about the coach and high school relationship, but it is very significant. If you don't understand this, then you just aren't credible in this thread.

Actually, recruiters who are highly thought of are highly thought of because there school recruits well when they are there. The rating of recruiters has nothing to do with how friendly they are with high school coaches. College are not trying to recruit high school coaches, but rather top high school talent. Or as Thomas Sowell might say, outcomes matter not opinions.

 

[CGgater]

Actually, recruiters who are highly thought of are highly thought of because there school recruits well when they are there. The rating of recruiters has nothing to do with how friendly they are with high school coaches. College are not trying to recruit high school coaches, but rather top high school talent. Or as Thomas Sowell might say, outcomes matter not opinions.

While I can’t argue why you’re wrong, I can say as a senior military leader that relationships matter. EVERY relationship matters: HS coach, principal, mom, dad, brother, sister, cousin, teammate... don’t undervalue ANYONE when attempting to gain the trust of a kid you’re convincing to leave home to be part of your team.