Bits & Pieces: Florida vs. Kentucky

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No one believed we were winning any championships this year with this squad. We did hope to be excited about the future again with grit, passion, and flashes of brilliance from AR so that at least the perception and mood of this team is changing for the better going forward.

I believe Napier gives us that change in perception that is so greatly needed with a program lost in the desert for over 12 years. The best parallel I can think of is Kirby Smart in his first year as coach for UGA inheriting a team that had better talent than UF’s. They lost a lot of games and often looked inept and badly coached. Smart knew that he had to build a program by growing the staff and out recruiting the other programs each year. That model clearly has paid dividends for UGA but it took time and patience.

The Kentucky game changes nothing for me and I still believe we’re fortunate to have Napier as our coach. His true success will come only after he’s had time to restructure the program and beef up recruiting for a couple of years. I’m not saying anything we don’t already know…. Just asking that we keep things in perspective this year.
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So AR should be fielding gobs of requests for appearances and Subway commercials now. Right?

Seriously, he was awful but he didn’t quit like Simone Biles so he can’t be a hero like her.
You are completely missing the point. Here's how AR reminded me of Biles (before she quit):

1) Everyone talked about how great she was, and she had more people paying attention to her than ever before. There were extremely high expectations.

2) She was making uncharacteristic mistakes right before the Olympics and in the early part of the competition.

3) As time went on those mistakes got worse.

4) She looked dejected and miserable. She was constantly down on herself with every little mistake. And that got worse as time went on.
 

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You are completely missing the point. Here's how AR reminded me of Biles (before she quit):

1) Everyone talked about how great she was, and she had more people paying attention to her than ever before. There were extremely high expectations.

2) She was making uncharacteristic mistakes right before the Olympics and in the early part of the competition.

3) As time went on those mistakes got worse.

4) She looked dejected and miserable. She was constantly down on herself with every little mistake. And that got worse as time went on.
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So you have no issue looking at websites, posting here over and over again, but when it comes to simply copying and pasting a link, you're "on the road". If you're "on the road", you shouldn't have so much time to keep
Well my Bovine friend...I was actually spending time with the Lord...where were you?

Now that I'm available I could post the link...but I now see that it's been posted.

I thought you might do it but no you were concerned with me...that was thoughtful...Well I'm okay.

I could post the sermon or my church link? Lord knows we could use it: Chatter, UF, Napier, you, me...can sure use the prayers.

Have a blessed day
 
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Great as always @cover2

I'm as guilty as anyone of dissecting every little aspect of the game, but sometimes the easiest judge of an offense is asking yourself if you'd like to play them. Unfortunately, outside of AR doing a 360 degree pumpfake on a play the D outcoached us, the answer would definitely be less. If you can stop an inside zone, we're muschampish. The concern when we hired CBN was that our O would look like ULL and those fears are only growing. Maybe the fact that he kept winning close games with it there is what stopped it from evolving and losing to less talented teams like uk will force a change here. That's the only hope IMO.

There are bright spots. Schematically, it's only on D though. These have been pretty bad matchups for the D IMO. Very experienced and talented QBs that use the TEs going against players running a new zone that had mostly been man before. Not giving up many big plays even though the blitzes are a bit of a work in progress has been impressive.

The 2nd bright spot to me is that a true freshman (Wilson) and RS Fr (Barber) were forced into action and both held their own. Sapp has been legit all year even though we're asking him to play out of position a lot. Devin Moore once again flashed a little. I think we're gonna be very physical and athletic team going forward.
 

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You are completely missing the point. Here's how AR reminded me of Biles (before she quit):

1) Everyone talked about how great she was, and she had more people paying attention to her than ever before. There were extremely high expectations.

2) She was making uncharacteristic mistakes right before the Olympics and in the early part of the competition.

3) As time went on those mistakes got worse.

4) She looked dejected and miserable. She was constantly down on herself with every little mistake. And that got worse as time went on.

I understood your point completely and I can see the parallels.
I was simply pointing out that no player in any sport that continues to compete can be compared to Simone Biles.
Furthermore my real point was to compare the negativity by some regarding AR while most people gushed over Biles for quitting. I am still behind AR 100% as long as he continues to fight and try and get better. Conversely, I have no respect for Simone Biles.
 

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Well my Bovine friend...I was actually spending time with the Lord...where were you?

Now that I'm available I could post the link...but I now see that it's been posted.

I thought you might do it but no you were concerned with me...that was thoughtful...We'll I'm okay.

I could post the sermon or my church link? Lord knows we could we: Chatter, UF, Napier, you, me...can sure use the prayers.

Have a blessed day
Cut Ox a little slack. He’s probably grouchy still from some wise @sses in the HOA that still haven’t taken down their Christmas lights or left their garage door open, not to mention AR. He’ll soon be back to his same old lovable self.
 

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Well my Bovine friend...I was actually spending time with the Lord...where were you?
So you were "spending time with the Lord" while posting on Gatorchatter at church? Geezum, quit while you're behind and shove your judgmental BS where the sun don't shine. I just read this in my Bible this morning and thought of you instantly:

"And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. They also tend to serve as judgmental, holier-than-thou asshats on message boards."
 

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Very frustrated by the lack of offense, especially in the 2nd half. The D was good enough win the game if the O met expectations. Hopefully this game is a great learning experience.

What is Wright doing in practice to earn so many carries??? Johnson and ETN need to be on the field more. And I also don't understand the constant RB rotation. Hard to develop a rhythm...

ky is a good team, but we shoulda beat them without 4th qtr drama. CBN still has a ton of cleanup to do.
 

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I'm as guilty as anyone of dissecting every little aspect of the game, but sometimes the easiest judge of an offense is asking yourself if you'd like to play them. Unfortunately, outside of AR doing a 360 degree pumpfake on a play the D outcoached us, the answer would definitely be less. If you can stop an inside zone, we're muschampish. The concern when we hired CBN was that our O would look like ULL and those fears are only growing. Maybe the fact that he kept winning close games with it there is what stopped it from evolving and losing to less talented teams like uk will force a change here. That's the only hope IMO.
It's too early to make any conclusions on the long-term outlook of Napier's offense and you damn well know it.

The ghouls in the chat box last night (who of course were dead silent after the Utah game) who came out suddenly at the end of the game to trash this coaching staff were pathetic. This staff has already done more for the program than the last 3 combined, and beat a top ranked team in their first game ever. These miserable guys, who hated the hire from day 1, were just waiting for that first loss so they could pounce. They are insufferable, and almost seem to be pulling for Gator losses these days just so they can rant.
 

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So you were "spending time with the Lord" while posting on Gatorchatter at church? Geezum, quit while you're behind and shove your judgmental BS where the sun don't shine. I just read this in my Bible this morning and thought of you instantly:

"And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. They also tend to serve as judgmental, holier-than-thou asshats on message boards."
From Paul’s Letter to the Church in Metairie?
 

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It's too early to make any conclusions on the long-term outlook of Napier's offense and you damn well know it.

The ghouls in the chat box last night (who of course were dead silent after the Utah game) who came out suddenly at the end of the game to trash this coaching staff were pathetic. This staff has already done more for the program than the last 3 combined, and beat a top ranked team in their first game ever. These miserable guys, who hated the hire from day 1, were just waiting for that first loss so they could pounce. They are insufferable, and almost seem to be pulling for Gator losses these days just so they can rant.
It's definitely too early to make conclusions about what CBN's O will be, bc again, a change might be forced. But I don't think its too early to know what it is with the current staff structure, bc we have 4+ seasons of consistentcy and zero reason to think it be better than middling.

This past week you responded to someone questioning the O last week by saying how many yards we had against Utah. But the concern to the people that weren't the silent ghouls is knowing that that coaching performance would lead to this. Someone rhetorically asked in the game thread yesterday 'who saw this coming', but the actual answer was 'a bunch of people'.

It's the same as you saying that CBN is building something, bc the truth is he's either building what smart did or what Zook did. I'm inclined to think the former if he can recruit top-6 with 9-3 seasons for 3 years, bc thats what he's shown.
 

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It's definitely too early to make conclusions about what CBN's O will be, bc again, a change might be forced. But I don't think its too early to know what it is with the current staff structure, bc we have 4+ seasons of consistentcy and zero reason to think it be better than middling.

This past week you responded to someone questioning the O last week by saying how many yards we had against Utah. But the concern to the people that weren't the silent ghouls is knowing that that coaching performance would lead to this. Someone rhetorically asked in the game thread yesterday 'who saw this coming', but the actual answer was 'a bunch of people'.

It's the same as you saying that CBN is building something, bc the truth is he's either building what smart did or what Zook did. I'm inclined to think the former if he can recruit top-6 with 9-3 seasons for 3 years, bc thats what he's shown.
I don't really disagree with any of this. You can go back and look - I never claimed Napier could WIN at UF. I claimed he could REBUILD UF, and he's done just about as well as we could have possibly hoped. We've just become so damn jaded that the fun is diminishing to the point that whatever remaining passion I have for college football could dwindle away, and I don't want that to happen. It happened with me to the NBA, and it's happening to me with the NFL.

I guess I just hoped people would at least give Napier a chance. The guy isn't an idiot like Butters or an asshat like Mullen. SIX QUARTERS into his tenure, people like you have mapped out the next 3+ years of misery we're going to experience before he's mercifully fired.
 

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With his speed and athleticism AR would make a hell of a tight end, just sayin
I said those exact same words about Cam Newton when he came in at QB at UF in mop up duty and proceeded to drill the ball into the ground at receiver's feet. I was totally wrong on that one.
 

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