Chip Kelly and Scott Frost; Frost gets extension after 8-13 record

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    Meyer's smart enough to never even consider touching a job in the condition that Nebraska was in. He hates to lose more than anyone and knows that he'd do a fair share in Lincoln, especially early on. I don't know what to think about Frost exactly, but I can just about guarantee he regrets his decision. I was of the opinion that he recognized how difficult it would be and probably didn't really like the idea, but felt compelled to cash in on his success and simply couldn't turn them down for any other job. I think he took it begrudgingly and wishes he could go back in time and just face the heat then.

    I like the tomatoes idea though.
     
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      I think he simply wanted to coach at the school he played at. They paid him a boatload of cash to do just that.
       
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        Warning to anyone wanting to read this article, it’s a bit on the long side.

        I admit to being one of those who wanted Frost and also admit to having been very mistaken. (There’s reason I’m not an AD somewhere.) I think Frost would have done better at UF than he has done at Nebraska, but not as good as CDM has. (I also assumed that he’d have good relationships in Florida from being at UCF which would greatly help with recruiting - something else I was probably wrong about.)

        To win (bigly) at Nebraska is a very difficult proposition in the current CFB landscape. I seriously doubt Frost will be able to recruit effectively enough to ever even win their division let alone the conference; a Natty is a totally unrealistic goal. Only a recruiter at a level of Saban or Urbs can get it done there. Their recruiting base is just not strong enough and they have to get the overwhelming majority of their players by recruiting nationally. That’s a hard act to sustain.
         
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        He's gone next year after another bowl-less season.
         
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          We'll see. But I get it. They both turned us down so now we're supposed to root for their failure.
           
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            I’ll bet you a couple hundred Oxbucks he gets a fourth season. Ties to the school and fan base are too strong for them not to give him every chance to succeed.
             
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              Is this a matter of Frost not being a good coach or of what most everyone was saying when he went there...that nobody had a chance to win in Nebraska? They made the blunder of all blunders when the joined the Big 10 (or 11 or 12 or...).
               
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                Did he steal your girlfriend or something?
                 
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                  I root for his failure because he took a job he didn’t want because he’s spineless. There’s nothing to respect about Frost.
                   
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                    He didn’t want it. He was pressured into it.
                     
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                      You can’t win championships anymore. But 8-13?

                      Bo Pelini went 67-27 at Nebraska and won 9 games every season he was there. Even Mike Riley went 13-12. There is no excuse for how bad Frost has been.

                      They aren’t going to be worth a crap next year either.
                       
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                      I wish that the kind of won/lost vs talent that Threat published for the SEC was available for chip Kelly.
                       
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                      I definitely agree with you that he chickened out. My brother-in-law is from Nebraska. He thought the Savior was coming home... I like my brother-in-law but haven't heard much from him lately.

                      FWIW I was a student in 96 when Osborne got let the criminal Phillips run all over us. They are getting everything they deserve.
                       
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                        I heard from a guy who supposedly has good ties -I gotta go with it because he told me of the hire while Frost was still coaching UCF- that Coach Tom told him "It's time to come home." So he has the backing from him and I couldnt see him having a short leash.
                         
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                        Well, you were right about Taggart being gone by Thanksgiving, just a year off.
                         
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                        Holy mother of God. They must love his 8-13 record. I just don't understand doing something like this when a coach already has multiple years left on his deal.

                        All this is going to do is jack up the buyout next year.
                         
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                          I'm not a fan of either Frost or Nebraska.. Let em continue to live in failure
                           
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                            Their current class is ranking 40th by Rivals. That's not how you win in the Wittle 10. And I've watched a few of their games. That team is wiLLLLLLLLLLLLie level soft.
                             
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                              How can they possibly look at the current state of things and act like the future is bright? What a train wreck.

                              They would be better off hiring Pelini back.
                               

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