Jimbo’s gonna Jimbo

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GatorInGeorgia

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F503343E-8ABF-422E-9644-4798B0F2B459.jpeg It’s was well known prior to the Aggies throwing the bank at him that Jimbo was a 2.875 loss per season coach at FSU WITH Jameis and a 3.667 loss per season coach WITHOUT Jameis and a 3 loss per season coach for the entirety of his time at FSU and his 1st season at TAM. 1/3 of the way through the season and Jimbo is 2/3’s of the way to his career average of 3 losses per season, with tough games still remaining against Bama, Georgia & LSU, and less difficult but trap games nonetheless against Missy & Missy State. It looks to me that a 4 loss regular season MINIMUM is in the cards, with additional losses possible in the trap games and bowl game.

2 things I find baffling are 1) what did TAM see in this bozo to pay him ridiculous money? and 2) why are they now acting surprised that he’s got 6 losses in his first 17 games in College Station? Puzzling to say the least. At least the brass at TAM can be proud of the fact that they financed Jimbo’s recent hair plug therapy, as pictured a few nights ago on the SEC Network (Google & compare this picture to some from his last years in Tally). Discuss. :lol:
 

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He was a four loss coach even at clown town without Rapeis.

Well, technically it was 3.667 losses without Jameis but I get your point. I didn’t round up to 4 because I didn’t want to be accused of being fake news or biased. Don’t worry, though, after another season or two of 4 or 5 losses, we won’t have to round up to get to 4 losses average per year for his career as that will be the accurate number. :giggle:
 

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What did they expect?
They expected championships. It’s laughable. I have a really good friend here that an aTm Alumnus and he keeps telling me they are in it. :lol:

I told him from the beginning Jimbo is a shammockery.
 

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Shytty guy produces shytty results. Will never feel bad for him. Good to see anything that touches/has touched that fraud program out West is starting to slowly crash and burn.
 

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His name should be Jimblow. He’s another Chimp, a b.s.artist and fraud who is stealing money every week. All these so called experts keep calling him an offensive genius, his offenses through the years have been average at best with the occasional good season, but I attribute his good seasons to the saying even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
 

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Shytty guy produces shytty results. Will never feel bad for him. Good to see anything that touches/has touched that fraud program out West is starting to slowly crash and burn.
Starting to? Slowly? It started during Jimbo’s last season. It definitely crashed last year and there was nothing slow about it. Only remaining question is how long and how intense is the burn. Hope its hot as hell and burns for eternity.
 

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His name should be Jimblow. He’s another Chimp, a b.s.artist and fraud who is stealing money every week. All these so called experts keep calling him an offensive genius, his offenses through the years have been average at best with the occasional good season, but I attribute his good seasons to the saying even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

Plenty of guys like this stealing money on a weekly basis. But I don;t put the onus or blame on them. Dumbo got 75 LARGE, guaranteed. I blame all the so called experts (better known as idiots) for giving them everything and then some. Most, if not all, of the decision makers have never seen an entire game and if they have, they have no idea what they are actually looking for.
 

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Me thinks Jimbo gonna find the going a little tougher as a head coach in the SEC than he did in that other conference.
 

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Me thinks Jimbo gonna find the going a little tougher as a head coach in the SEC than he did in that other conference.
Didn’t he used to diss the sec too while at TrashAssU? Losing every game still wouldn’t be enough
 

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Didn’t see it myself, but heard Fisher had a rough night. Crazy stretch plays, killer double teams and all sorts of protection issues. I don’t care who you are, you can’t be productive when you’re always on your back.

But enough about Candi’s night. Looks like Jimbo took one on the chin as well.
 

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Didn’t see it myself, but heard Fisher had a rough night. Crazy stretch plays, killer double teams and all sorts of protection issues. I don’t care who you are, you can’t be productive when you’re always on your back.

But enough about Candi’s night. Looks like Jimbo took one on the chin as well.
I lost track of how many sacks she took.
 

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Starting to? Slowly? It started during Jimbo’s last season. It definitely crashed last year and there was nothing slow about it. Only remaining question is how long and how intense is the burn. Hope its hot as hell and burns for eternity.
I hope it burns the same way Tennessee's program has been burning since Phul Filmer got sh** canned 11 years ago.
 

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More fun facts about his record. He is 16-16 against top 25 teams with Winston and 11-15 without him. Never understood how people could say he was a top 4/5 coach.
 

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This is a good read:

Does Texas A&M have a $75 million mess on its hands?

First and 10: Does Texas A&M have a $75 million mess on its hands?

Seventy-five million, guaranteed. $75 million.

So far, all that gets those deep-pocket, ten-gallon hats at Texas A&M who shelled out all that dough is a nice, air-conditioned suite to sit and pout (again) on game day.

When you’re spending that kind of capital, you want return on your investment. So far, the Jimbo Fisher experiment at Texas A&M has been like one of those fancy, big-name mutual funds that looks good – until you delve into its history and uncover the inconsistencies.

“We’re not a bad football team,” Fisher told the assembled media after last weekend’s stunning home loss to Auburn.

Bad isn’t the argument. Bad can be fixed.

But track record – the ability to look at something and see undeniable, tangible trends – that’s another story. And it can no longer be denied.

Without generational quarterback Jameis Winston, Fisher’s coaching record vs. Power 5 teams is 23-17. Fisher’s record at FSU after Winston, a bright supernova who played 2 seasons: 25-12 overall, 14-10 in the ACC.

Woof.

So are you really surprised that Texas A&M in Year 2 under Fisher, while staring at the first of 3 mega SEC West Division games, allowed Auburn — with a true freshman quarterback making his first road start – to walk away with a relatively easy win despite gaining 299 yards of total offense?

Is it really that shocking that Auburn threw for only 106 yards, had one run of 57 yards on a reverse for a touchdown and averaged a measly 4.5 yards per play – and the game was never in doubt?

Or that Texas A&M played so poorly in the easiest of 3 critical SEC West games, with LSU and Alabama still on the horizon (to say nothing of a game at East Division heavyweight Georgia, too)?

How many times do we have to hear the axiom from the great Bill Parcells to believe it?

You are what your record says you are.

Jimbo Fisher is a good football coach. He developed 3 1st-round picks at quarterback at FSU (Christian Ponder and EJ Manuel are out of the NFL, and Winston), and recruited a treasure trove of elite players on both sides of the ball.

For that, FSU got 1 national title (2013, a game Auburn could have easily won) and a spot in the first College Football Playoff (a 39-point loss to Oregon). That’s a career for some programs; that’s not the impetus to offer the largest guaranteed contract in the history of college football.

The problem is – in the parlance of our Texas brethren — the hay is in the barn. You’ve invested the money. All you can hope for now is change and a deviation from the norm of past seasons.

Texas A&M doesn’t have a generational quarterback like Winston. It doesn’t even have a 1st-round pick like Ponder or Manuel.

Kellen Mond is solid, and in most conferences not called the SEC, might be enough to get you a division championship and the ability to play for a conference championship.

Knowing that and understanding the trend lines of Fisher’s coaching career, Texas A&M spent $75 million on the hope that Fisher finds an elite quarterback.

That and an air-conditioned suite on game day.

2. Finding the guy
Think about this if you were part of the group that chipped in on the $75 million: Texas A&M needs an upset – and to win every game it’s supposed to win — to avoid a 7-5 record.

Kevin Sumlin was fired in 2017, and given a nice parting gift of $10.5 million (which raises that Jimbo investment to $85.5 million), after going 7-5.

Fear not, Mr. Ten Gallon, we’ve seen what Fisher can do with an elite quarterback. He has a commitment from Haynes King, the No. 1 dual-threat quarterback in the 2020 recruiting class, and from Eli Stowers, the No. 5 dual-threat quarterback in the 2021 class.

In the 6 years at FSU without Winston, FSU’s quarterbacks averaged 23 TDs and 9 INTs. Mond had 24 TDs and 9 INTs in his first season under Fisher, and is on pace this season to hit 28 TDs and 12 INTs.

Again, track record. You are who you are at the most important position on the field.

Until Fisher finds his elite or generational quarterback, this is where Texas A&M will linger. Good enough to maybe win a game or two a season that matter, but not good enough to win the West Division and the SEC.

3. Earning your contract, The Epilogue
Don’t think what’s going in College Station isn’t gaining traction in the coaching profession.

There are two ways most coaches look at the Fisher/Texas A&M marriage: Fisher’s crazy-large contract was good for everyone. The rising tide lifts all boats.

What he did to earn the contract, however, is another story.

“You want to really impress me? Be the guy that wins no matter who is under center,” one Power 5 coach told me last Saturday night. “Urban (Meyer) for all his faults, won a national title with Chris Leak.”

To take that a step further: If you’re not Alabama under Nick Saban, you’re not winning the SEC without a generational or elite quarterback.

Since 2008, here are the quarterbacks who led their respective teams to SEC championships in non-Alabama years:

  • 2008: Tim Tebow, Florida
  • 2010: Cam Newton, Auburn
  • 2011: Jarrett Lee and Jordan Jefferson, LSU
  • 2013: Nick Marshall, Auburn
  • 2017: Jake Fromm, Georgia
Clearly the 2011 season is the outlier. An LSU team that was so loaded everywhere on the field except quarterback, it was able to win the league through sheer talent alone (then lost in the BCS National Championship Game rematch to Alabama).

Tebow and Newton are 2 of the best quarterbacks in college football history. Marshall was an elite dual-threat quarterback who needed a prayer and a miracle (kick-6) to lead the Tigers to the SEC Championship, and Fromm has the potential to leave Athens as the greatest quarterback in school history.
 
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