Rams/Saints no-call

[gator1946]

The media will drone on for a little while. Then, so that they don't taint the legitimacy of the SUPER DUPER bowl, they'll shut up. The NFL will do spin control at full cycle for the same reason.

Bad call changed the outcome of the game. Gooooodallll move on we need max ratings next week.

 

[Zambo]

So what your saying for this 15 second play, the other 60+ minutes mattered. Because the Saints had no recourse after this play?

No dude, the Rams are the ones who had no recourse. The object is the win the game. The play took away the ability of the Saints to control the conditions and prevent the Rams from being able to win the game. It is as cut and dried as you can get.

 

[TheDouglas78]

No dude, the Rams are the ones who had no recourse. The object is the win the game. The play took away the ability of the Saints to control the conditions and prevent the Rams from being able to win the game. It is as cut and dried as you can get.

So when the Saints gave the ball to the Rams, who got the ball in Overtime after the coin flip. I forgot, who controlled their destiny in OT?

 

[Thick&ThinG8r]

Wasn't just interference. It was helmet-to-helmet, too. The league's head of officials admitted the refs blew the call.

I saw a dozen helmet to helmets in the two games, unless it's on th QB they rarely call it.

 

[78]

'78, what I'm saying is... to raise the point of a replay, you have to show that for 60 minutes or in this case 60+ minutes the chips were stacked against the Saints to the point they had no shot at winning. The facts don't support that argument. In fact, after the bad call, they still could have stopped the Rams driving for the game tying field goal. They didn't stop that. Then they had the opportunity, by getting the ball first in Overtime. But lets not address that? This isn't like the swindle in the swamp, where 6 turnover calls clearly were wrong and went to a single team.

The Rams need a touchdown if New Orleans gets the correct call and marches it in from inside the 5. How can you not see how that one play, domino by domino, profoundly impacted the rest of the game?

And the rule states plainly that the game resumes from the "extraordinary" play. There's no language about a 60-minute conspiracy.

 

[TheDouglas78]

The media will drone on for a little while. Then, so that they don't taint the legitimacy of the SUPER DUPER bowl, they'll shut up. The NFL will do spin control at full cycle for the same reason.

Bad call changed the outcome of the game. Gooooodallll move on we need max ratings next week.

Saints take the OT kickoff and get a touchdown, this is a non-issue. You take care of what you can take care of. The Saints didn't. Horrible call, no one is arguing.

 

[TheDouglas78]

I saw a dozen helmet to helmets in the two games, unless it's on th QB they rarely call it.

Exactly, a lot of schit was letting the players play, the last three weekends.

 

[oxrageous]

It's kind of like the Swindle. We had 7 calls go against us, yet still should have won the game.

 

[Zambo]

So when the Saints gave the ball to the Rams, who got the ball in Overtime after the coin flip. I forgot, who controlled their destiny in OT?

You forget a lot. The only reason the Rams had that opportunity is because the refs gave it to them. Its one thing to not be able to get it done. Its quite another to get it done, and have it taken from you. Your whole ridiculous point revolves around your assertion that in order to win the game, one team needs to be so much better than the other team that they not only have to beat them on the field, but they also have to beat them convincingly enough that they can endure egregiously bad calls by the referees and STILL win the game. It is so devoid of logic I'm actually laughing out loud.

 

[TheDouglas78]

You forget a lot. The only reason the Rams had that opportunity is because the refs gave it to them. Its one thing to not be able to get it done. Its quite another to get it done, and have it taken from you. Your whole ridiculous point revolves around your assertion that in order to win the game, one team needs to be so much better than the other team that they not only have to beat them on the field, but they also have to beat them convincingly enough that they can endure egregiously bad calls by the referees and STILL win the game. It is so devoid of logic I'm actually laughing out loud.

So one bad call which is 15 seconds of a 60+ minute game was the only difference on the field? It's not like the Saints got the ball in OT first, and a touchdown would win the game.

With a three point lead (which could have been 7 or 3 with less time on the clock if correctly called) and 1:41 on the clock. The Rams were able to drive 45 yards down the field on 9 plays to kick a game tying field goal, because instead of playing against the Saints defense because as we all know the refs weren't allowing the Saints to play defense according to everyone's argument. Then in overtime because the Refs are telling Brees to throw to the Rams defenders instead of driving for a game winning touchdown he tosses to J. Johnson instead of Michael Thomas.

When you play team sports you control what you can control, you can't control bad calls. But you can control your play. The Saints failed to do so.

But yeah, the refs are the only reason the Saints lost. Sound like bunch of Cowboys fans after the Dez "catch".

 

[TheDouglas78]

The Rams need a touchdown if New Orleans gets the correct call and marches it in from inside the 5. How can you not see how that one play, domino by domino, profoundly impacted the rest of the game?

And the rule states plainly that the game resumes from the "extraordinary" play. There's no language about a 60-minute conspiracy.

Defense and Drew Brees both had a chance to ice this game. They failed to do so.

 

[Zambo]

This is cringe-worthy facepalm stuff right here.

Doug thinks that if the Saints threw the game winning touchdown pass with 2 seconds left in the game, but the refs totally blew the call even though the receiver was obviously in bounds with possession, its still their fault they didn't win because they could have simply thrown another touchdown pass on the final play. Bizarro world.

It quite remarkable that one can have such a loose grasp on reality that one can't see the difference between the watered down effect of a bad call at the beginning of a game, and the game-changing nature of a bad call in the final seconds of a game. I mean, truly remarkable and not in a good way.

 

[78]

Defense and Drew Brees both had a chance to ice this game. They failed to do so.

You'd probably argue that a woman jogger raped in the park deserved no protection because she had on running shoes. She could have run from her attacker.

Extraordinarily unfair. Those are the most relevant two words in the rule. Do the right thing, Mr. Commissioner, and fix this.

 

[TheDouglas78]

This is cringe-worthy facepalm stuff right here.

Doug thinks that if the Saints threw the game winning touchdown pass with 2 seconds left in the game, but the refs totally blew the call even though the receiver was obviously in bounds with possession, its still their fault they didn't win because they could have simply thrown another touchdown pass on the final play. Bizarro world.

It quite remarkable that one can have such a loose grasp on reality that one can't see the difference between the watered down effect of a bad call at the beginning of a game, and the game-changing nature of a bad call in the final seconds of a game. I mean, truly remarkable and not in a good way.

It's always someone else's fault I guess. I lost money on this game. After they took a 3 point lead, where was the Saints defense? Did you complain this much about the 49ers losing the Super Bowl to the Ravens when the PI was missed in the End Zone? That is more in line with your statement above than this situation. The no call happened with 1:48 left in the 4th (so not the final seconds). Their defense had a chance to get a stop and didn't. Then they offense had the ball twice (thought the last series in the quarter didn't have time). They had the ball first in overtime, but no accountability for that as well?

 

[TheDouglas78]

You'd probably argue that a woman jogger raped in the park deserved no protection because she had on running shoes. She could have run from her attacker.

Extraordinarily unfair. Those are the most relevant two words in the rule. Do the right thing, Mr. Commissioner, and fix this.

That is dumb even for you '78. There is nothing extraordinarily unfair, about poor officiating in a game that was poorly officiated.

 

[stephenPE]

If that had happened to us in a game to get us into the NCAA title game We all go a little nuts. Horrible non call and was helmet to helmet.

 

[Zambo]

The no call happened with 1:48 left in the 4th (so not the final seconds). Their defense had a chance to get a stop and didn't.

Tell me genius, if the right call had been made, how much time would have been on the clock for the Rams when they got the ball back? Don't look now but your tenuous grasp of reality is showing. The penalty GAVE the Rams 1:46 to tie the game, which is the ENTIRE POINT.

 

[78]

That is dumb even for you '78. There is nothing extraordinarily unfair, about poor officiating in a game that was poorly officiated.

With 1:49 left in the game, New Orleans driving deep in LA territory, third-and-10, it is what it is.

And when the league's head of officiating says we blew it, you might do well to take notice.

Gee, I wonder why the internet is full of stories about Goodell's power to overrule. Could it be that this one play was ... extraordinarily unfair?

 

[TheDouglas78]

Tell me genius, if the right call had been made, how much time would have been on the clock for the Rams when they got the ball back? Don't look now but your tenuous grasp of reality is showing. The penalty GAVE the Rams 1:46 to tie the game, which is the ENTIRE POINT.

I have addressed that. No one is arguing it was a bad call... But bad calls happen. But the call didn't give the Rams the tie, they still had to earn it against one of the better defenses in the league. It also didn't give them the ball in overtime, that was Brees. Are the officials at fault for the Saints defense not showing up, or Bree's interception.

No one is arguing it was a bad no call, just the game wasn't over. If the Saints took care of business on Defense or on Offense they still could have won.

 

[TheDouglas78]

With 1:49 left in the game, New Orleans driving deep in LA territory, third-and-10, it is what it is.

And when the league's head of officiating says we blew it, you might do well to take notice.

Gee, I wonder why the internet is full of stories about Goodell's power to overrule. Could it be that this one play was ... extraordinarily unfair?

So of all the non-calls and missed calls in the NFL this is so much worse than those?