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Wheels are coming off...
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Charlie Strong
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wtf is not to love about a FB coach that won you TWO national titles. Especially if you are a gator fan with ONLY SOS to hang your college football hat on (albiet a good one) One national title in 100 years. After URB, 3 national titles. Easy math and easy to like. I will admit Mullen looked better than will and so did Charlie S.Law98gator;n274366 said:
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Charlie is in trouble here. He inherited a bad squad, but he hasn't done anything to improve in year 2. He told everybody he was going up tempo and changing the offense and against ND it was the same stuff as the year before (sound familiar...)
I really like Charlie and I want him to succeed, but he is in big trouble. If he loses to Rice next week he may be out of a job before the end of the year.
I really like Charlie and I want him to succeed, but he is in big trouble. If he loses to Rice next week he may be out of a job before the end of the year.
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Unless a real good QB magically starts playing at Texas next season he may be gone at the end of the 2016 season. I highly doubt they give him a 4th season.
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stephenPE;n274901 said:
Who are you talking about?
- Jun 13, 2014
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I hate to see Charlie struggle. I'm a fan of his but he probably wont survive the season. He's already abandoning his play caller after his first game. Very desperate move. I thought he would do well out there.
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t-gator;n275144 said:
Why? Because Meyer elevated him into a trajectory that he didn't deserve?
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I just liked the guy. He grew up as a coach at Florida and I thought he represented the gators well when he was here. So other than when we played Louisville I'd usually root for him.PatDooleySucks;n275182 said:
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He's a class act and did an admirable job while a Gator. I didn't think he was the right fit for UT and he's not gonna be there much longer with the crap they're producing. I wouldn't be surprised to see them make at run at Gus Malzahn when the season is over.t-gator;n275188 said:
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Not necessarily a bad fit imo. They just didn't have the peices offensively. It was similar to our situation, it's gonna take an offensive guy to fix that. If he inherited something better on that side I think he would be fine. Strong will bounce back. As for who Texas goes after, malzahn probably fits the mold as well as anybody. They're definitely gonna over pay somebody.MJMGator;n275190 said:
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Why would anyone have Muschamp as their av? Yuk. But I agree with your post--somewhat. It was one game. Yes it looked bad (to state the least) but let's see how the season plays out. One thing is for certain: Texas better find some offense and find it fast or Charlie will be dropped like a hot rock. And from my experience, making such dramatic personell decisions could reflect a weakness to the constant pressure of dealing with the boosters, media, etc. Hopefully, for his sake, this isn't the case.
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MissouriGator;n275252 said:
Don't you think he's in a no-win situation re the playcalling? He'll be criticized for doing nothing and criticized for being too hasty. Only Strong has a good enough feel for the situation to make the right call. And if it leads to a turnaround, the move will be seen as brilliant.
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Don't you think he's in a no-win situation re the playcalling? He'll be criticized for doing nothing and criticized for being too hasty. Only Strong has a good enough feel for the situation to make the right call. And if it leads to a turnaround, the move will be seen as brilliant.[/QUOTE]
This is pretty accurate. He also opens up himself to criticism for how he could not have known there was a problem in the first place to be fixed. I've given Charlie some flak, because I think he's the most overrated Coach I can remember since Kiffen (though not quite on Kiffen's level). However, I agree with some posters that it's just one game. Albeit an ugly, ugly one. If he beats Oklahoma, and wins 8-9 games, people will quickly forget.
Don't you think he's in a no-win situation re the playcalling? He'll be criticized for doing nothing and criticized for being too hasty. Only Strong has a good enough feel for the situation to make the right call. And if it leads to a turnaround, the move will be seen as brilliant.[/QUOTE]
This is pretty accurate. He also opens up himself to criticism for how he could not have known there was a problem in the first place to be fixed. I've given Charlie some flak, because I think he's the most overrated Coach I can remember since Kiffen (though not quite on Kiffen's level). However, I agree with some posters that it's just one game. Albeit an ugly, ugly one. If he beats Oklahoma, and wins 8-9 games, people will quickly forget.
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Being a good assistant coach doesn't mean you will be a good HC.
I think we should recognize that. Charlie is over his head in Austin.
I think we should recognize that. Charlie is over his head in Austin.
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I would say that Chimp elevated him into a trajectory that he didn't deserve. People got so excited by that Luvull win because it wasn't yet obvious that any mediocre coach can beat Chimp with any level of talent, including 1AA talent.PatDooleySucks;n275182 said:
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How did he not deserve this trajectory? He was the defensive coordinator for 2 national championship teams . Those teams shut down record breaking offenses and he put a ton of guys into the nfl. He went to a struggling big east school and had back to back double digit win seasons. He had as good of a resume as anybody when Texas hired him.
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t-gator;n275298 said:
Did he make them that much better?
The previous five years before Strong (in BE):
9-3
12-1
6-6
5-7
4-8
Three years with Strong (BE):
7-6
7-6
11-2
Then his one year in the AAC:
12-1
During his years in the Big East, the Big East lost teams, and was a weaker conference which was losing teams and through turmoil. And his one year in the AAC which might be the worst conference in Country. Strong played against some questionable competition during his time in the Big East.
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t-gator;n275401 said:
It's not like he turned UCF or USF into a winner. He turned a team that was once a winner against questionable competition, into a winner with questionable competition. He beat down a questionable conference with the team with the best resources. This is like an FSU coach bragging about winning the ACC in the 90's. They were clearly the most talented team with the best football resources, they should win. It makes your point more questionable.
