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GatorTAG;n273197 said:In those 14 games he has losses where they scored 7, 17, 7, 0, 10, 7, 3. Hard to watch a team that inept.
Scott512;n272947 said:I agree with you. I am sad to see Strong bombing in Austin. But not many black head coaches get the chance to coach at a top football school so he had to take it. He can always go back to a school like Louisville. But Charlie is reaching for the stars at Texas. So far not so good.
A bad weekend for Gators. Tebow and Sturgis get cut and Strong Longhorns bombed against the Irish.
oxrageous;n273111 said:Nice retort. Your argument has convinced me. :rolleyes:
I just think it's stupid every single time Strong or Franklin lose a game we have a group of people that thump their chest and say, "See! They suck! I never wanted that guy and said so two years ago! I'm going to call out everyone who said otherwise because they're stupid and I'm smart! Yeah! Yeah!"
It's dumb and old at this point. We didn't hire them and have no idea how they would have done if we had. To make the case that neither of them can coach is also ridiculous. All you have to do is look at Vandy right now to respect just how competitive Franklin had that team. It was remarkable. Strong's recruiting ties were a hell of a lot better in this side of the country than in Texas. That's why I think he could have been lights out here, at least as a recruiter.
It's all a moot point, anyway. The fact is, we should have fired Muschamp after 2013. Period.
LagoonGator68;n273192 said:Strong is set for life with that 30 mil whether he wins or not if he structures it correctly.
My point is I don't care about Charlie Strong or James Franklin now. They have nothing to do with us. I just get annoyed that every time their team doesn't play well we have several members that call out arguments from two years ago and try to stir up crap.PatDooleySucks;n273250 said:So to be clear your argument is that we should not judge Strong on what he has done, but we should judge him on what he could have done had we hired him in '13?
Coach Strong had some great years here. He also had some poor years. I think people conveniently forget some of his defenses from 2003 and 2004. 2007 was not great either. If you ever watched a Strong presser, it will make you think of Muschamp as articulate and bright. He should have no issues recruiting Texas. It's a huge state loaded with talent. Getting beat like he did over the weekend is troubling.
Besides all that, I'm having difficulty seeing what your point is. Were you vocal about wanting strong as the HC and now trying to compensate?
oxrageous;n273287 said:My point is I don't care about Charlie Strong or James Franklin now. They have nothing to do with us. I just get annoyed that every time their team doesn't play well we have several members that call out arguments from two years ago and try to stir up crap.
It was even more disappointing to keep Muschamp for 2014.PatDooleySucks;n273300 said:I've been on the board for less than a year, but this is the first Strong thread I recall. I find it interesting that you find people stirring up crap over Strong distasteful but the daily Foley/Muschamp threads are fine. I do agree with you though. I could care less about these two coaches. I would have been disappointed had we hired either one. If you can't achieve at texas/usc/uf, you can't achieve anywhere.
oxrageous;n273111 said:Nice retort. Your argument has convinced me. :rolleyes:
I just think it's stupid every single time Strong or Franklin lose a game we have a group of people that thump their chest and say, "See! They suck! I never wanted that guy and said so two years ago! I'm going to call out everyone who said otherwise because they're stupid and I'm smart! Yeah! Yeah!"
It's dumb and old at this point. We didn't hire them and have no idea how they would have done if we had. To make the case that neither of them can coach is also ridiculous. All you have to do is look at Vandy right now to respect just how competitive Franklin had that team. It was remarkable. Strong's recruiting ties were a hell of a lot better in this side of the country than in Texas. That's why I think he could have been lights out here, at least as a recruiter.
It's all a moot point, anyway. The fact is, we should have fired Muschamp after 2013. Period.
oxrageous;n273302 said:It was even more disappointing to keep Muschamp for 2014.
I'm confident I just banned you for life.PatDooleySucks;n273367 said:I'm confident it's a blessing in disguise.
dubster1;n272644 said:I will take him as a def.cood, my peeps tell me ucf is in the market for a hc
Law98gator;n273452 said:PDS seems familiar. Can't quite place my finger on who he was in the past.
LagoonGator68;n273488 said:itsgrt2baflg8tr