Spring Practice thread: Report: OT Noah Banks has been cleared to play

[gatormandan]

For whomever was creeping on mama:

Are you looking in the mirror?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Are you looking in the mirror?

That little brother is supposed to be a better prospect than Ethan.

Funny to think that Ethan White should be getting ready for prom.

 

[Musclepug]

Gators Football (@GatorsFB) tweeted at 9:01 PM on Sun, Apr 14, 2019:
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[Swamp Donkey]

Just for Ox:

 

[oxrageous]

Just for Ox:

What turnaround? The season isn't for 4 months. We'll see.

 

[neteng]

You sound like JByrd, @oxrageous ... you can't seem to give credit where credit is due and hold on to the negative with regards to Franks no matter what happens.

It was a spring game with very little meaning but he sure didn't disappoint and seems to be the clear leader of the offense. He finished last season strong and look even sharper in the spring game. But the knock on Franks has always been how he responds to adversity in the moment (not over his career) and not so much when things are going well. We will have to wait 4 months to see.

And JByrd is a twatwaffle.

 

[leogator]

One thing that we need to acknowledge is EJ is nowhere near ready to take the reins, from FF or anybody.

 

[leogator]

I was watching Stone Forsythe's play and he had a pretty solid day. I will be concentrating on the OL when I replay the game.

 

[oxrageous]

You sound like JByrd, @oxrageous ... you can't seem to give credit where credit is due and hold on to the negative with regards to Franks no matter what happens.

It was a spring game with very little meaning but he sure didn't disappoint and seems to be the clear leader of the offense. He finished last season strong and look even sharper in the spring game. But the knock on Franks has always been how he responds to adversity in the moment (not over his career) and not so much when things are going well. We will have to wait 4 months to see.

And JByrd is a twatwaffle.

Again, we'll see. I sound like byrd? He defended Gator players no matter how awful they are. Sounds like I'm being the opposite of byrd.

Franks has an opportunity to win back all the fans he alienated. I hope he does if it means we're winning games.

 

[neteng]

Again, we'll see. I sound like byrd? He defended Gator players no matter how awful they are. Sounds like I'm being the opposite of byrd.

Franks has an opportunity to win back all the fans he alienated. I hope he does if it means we're winning games.

Yes ... the opposite ... but the method is the same, which is what I was trying to communicate.

Franks didn't alienate fans. He alienated people who booed him instead of sympathizing with having to be coached by Nuss and Butters.

By the way ... here is a quote about Franks from his back up QB:

I see [Coach] developing Feleipe,'' Jones said. "I've seen how much Feleipe has grown over the past year. It's just crazy.

 

[Gator By Marriage]

One thing that we need to acknowledge is EJ is nowhere near ready to take the reins, from FF or anybody.

I hope he figures it out fairly soon. If the optimists (not sure anybody here actually pumps when it comes to FF) are correct about his improvement, then FF will probably go pro after next season (and given his measurables & the NFL's idiocy when it comes to drafting QBs), quite possibly in the 1st round. I bet we will see a lot of packages for EJ next season to get him more experience.

 

[oxrageous]

Yes ... the opposite ... but the method is the same, which is what I was trying to communicate.

Franks didn't alienate fans. He alienated people who booed him instead of sympathizing with having to be coached by Nuss and Butters.

By the way ... here is a quote about Franks from his back up QB:

Franks completed 35% of his passes last year while under pressure. That is horrendous. His performance in the spring game is absolutely meaningless, whether it was good or bad. Teams are going to be watching a lot of film and pressuring Franks relentlessly. We will find out very quickly (likely against Miami) how far he's come. I'm in a wait-and-see approach.

 

[neteng]

Franks completed 35% of his passes last year while under pressure. That is horrendous. His performance in the spring game is absolutely meaningless, whether it was good or bad. Teams are going to be watching a lot of film and pressuring Franks relentlessly. We will find out very quickly (likely against Miami) how far he's come. I'm in a wait-and-see approach.

I think there is plenty of meaning in the spring game. He threw under pressure pretty well, he hit receivers in stride and he showed he had a handle on the offense. Its clear he is the best QB, through his spring ball performance as well as the spring game. Nobody wins the heisman at a spring game, but they definitely can prove they aren't winning anything at a spring game ... and his performance didn't take him out of heisman talk. So ... like you, its a wait and see approach for (and probably everybody) as well. However, with that said ... the OL is scary and not sure we are going to be able to blame Franks when things dont work out at the beginning of the season like we hope. Its deeper than Franks. I just hope he can react quick.

Point I am making ... we are all in a "wait and see" position, but it sure isn't hard, nor wrong, to recognize that he is our best QB and isn't the lost angry guy he was under Butters&Nuss.

 

[leogator]

I think there is plenty of meaning in the spring game. He threw under pressure pretty well, he hit receivers in stride and he showed he had a handle on the offense. Its clear he is the best QB, through his spring ball performance as well as the spring game. Nobody wins the heisman at a spring game, but they definitely can prove they aren't winning anything at a spring game ... and his performance didn't take him out of heisman talk. So ... like you, its a wait and see approach for (and probably everybody) as well. However, with that said ... the OL is scary and not sure we are going to be able to blame Franks when things dont work out at the beginning of the season like we hope. Its deeper than Franks. I just hope he can react quick.

Point I am making ... we are all in a "wait and see" position, but it sure isn't hard, nor wrong, to recognize that he is our best QB and isn't the lost angry guy he was under Butters&Nuss.

I thought Franks had plenty of time to throw. Granted no blitzing, but still he had time to look off safeties and go to his secondary receiver. I have been one of his greatest critics but he looked like a different quarterback. He has made huge strides. People need to layoff the Heisman talk until he plays some meaningful games.

 

[neteng]

I thought Franks had plenty of time to throw. Granted no blitzing, but still he had time to look off safeties and go to his secondary receiver. I have been one of his greatest critics but he looked like a different quarterback. He has made huge strides. People need to layoff the Heisman talk until he plays some meaningful games.

He aint winning no Heisman this year. Not behind that OL. I wasn't even suggesting that .... just making the point that nobody proves they are going to be great in the upcoming season during their spring game, but they sure can prove they wont be great. Franks' performance didn't prove he would be bad this season ... that was my point.

 

[BMF]

Let me be the first to congratulate you all for the impressive pissing contest!

 

[GatorJ]

I think there is plenty of meaning in the spring game. He threw under pressure pretty well, he hit receivers in stride and he showed he had a handle on the offense. Its clear he is the best QB, through his spring ball performance as well as the spring game. Nobody wins the heisman at a spring game, but they definitely can prove they aren't winning anything at a spring game ... and his performance didn't take him out of heisman talk. So ... like you, its a wait and see approach for (and probably everybody) as well. However, with that said ... the OL is scary and not sure we are going to be able to blame Franks when things dont work out at the beginning of the season like we hope. Its deeper than Franks. I just hope he can react quick.

Point I am making ... we are all in a "wait and see" position, but it sure isn't hard, nor wrong, to recognize that he is our best QB and isn't the lost angry guy he was under Butters&Nuss.

I don’t think he ever said anything other than “we will see”. You’re making it a huge deal and putting words in his mouth.

The best predictor of the future is the past. I don’t think being skeptical is out of line.

I think Franks is our best QB right now – and he has all the physical tools. But how is he going to perform when the pressure becomes suffocating? I hope he performs well, but nothing from his past performance says that he will. Mullen is doing a lot for him right now because he so worried about his psyche.

I feel good about the Joneses. If Franks can’t do it, I think we have guys in the wings (for the first time in a long time) that can perform.

 

[SeabeeGator]

You sound like JByrd, @oxrageous ... you can't seem to give credit where credit is due and hold on to the negative with regards to Franks no matter what happens.

It was a spring game with very little meaning but he sure didn't disappoint and seems to be the clear leader of the offense. He finished last season strong and look even sharper in the spring game. But the knock on Franks has always been how he responds to adversity in the moment (not over his career) and not so much when things are going well. We will have to wait 4 months to see.

And JByrd is a twatwaffle.

Didn’t he also look “sharp” in last year’s spring game that was designed to highlight the offense... just like this year’s? I hope he continues to develop and that his late season improvement was because he got better... not because he was playing bad or undermanned defenses. Based on his history and the poor OL play, I’m not optimistic.

 

[BMF]

The OL needs some serious help. If Banks comes back he could be a starter and/or the #6 guy. McDowell likely moves to #2 center. Will be great if we can add a grad transfer starter (Reese?):

Breaking down UF's depth chart after spring ball

Breaking down UF's depth chart after spring ball

Offensive Line:

Left Tackle
Stone Forsythe
Richard Gouraige

Left Guard
Brett Heggie
Ethan White

Center
Nick Buchanan
Tanner Rowell OR Kingsley Eguakun

Right Guard
Chris Bleich
T.J. Moore
William Harrod

Right Tackle
Jean Delance
Michael Tarquin

Overview: The starting five was consistent throughout spring practice, with the only real change in the second unit being that Kingsley Eguakun was taking more snaps at center than Tanner Rowell by the end of spring. Of note, Griffin McDowell is not included here after missing all of spring practice due to injury following a scooter accident.

 

[neteng]

I don’t think he ever said anything other than “we will see”. You’re making it a huge deal and putting words in his mouth.

The best predictor of the future is the past. I don’t think being skeptical is out of line.

I think Franks is our best QB right now – and he has all the physical tools. But how is he going to perform when the pressure becomes suffocating? I hope he performs well, but nothing from his past performance says that he will. Mullen is doing a lot for him right now because he so worried about his psyche.

I feel good about the Joneses. If Franks can’t do it, I think we have guys in the wings (for the first time in a long time) that can perform.

Ox has been consistently negative about Franks and I think he admits it. He, through his own admission, is butthurt over the shush. Franks wasn't that great at the start of his career and nor was he expected to be. He was a high star prospect out of high school but he was also known to be a project needing work. He seemed a bit immature as well. So I am not saying that Ox is wrong to have the opinions he has, I only thought he was wrong to get so angry about the shush. F the boobirds boing Franks. Boo Butters and Nuss for not mentoring and coaching him like he should have been coached and mentored. I am only bagging on Ox for continuing to hold that position without recognizing his growth. Of course it is a wait and see.

Franks is our best QB, and has been. You can cherry pick my words all you want, but I did say in #1426 ... "But the knock on Franks has always been how he responds to adversity in the moment (not over his career) and not so much when things are going well. We will have to wait 4 months to see." ... so you are echoing me. If you have a strong OL, you can win a national championship with a dud like Dorsey. But with the OL we will have next year, you have to have a dynamic QB ... and I don't pretend Franks is that guy. He is going to face some serious pressure next season because of our young OL and if he doesnt mature enough to get over a bad play we aren't going to fair very well.

As for his psyche and Mullen being his therapist ... just remember that is your opinion and isn't actually reality.

I don't feel so good about EJ as you do. Nothing so far has shown that he is mastering the offense and pushing Franks for the starting position. That really worries me. Some of you are so quick to give the benefit of the doubt to the guy behind Franks (or better put, the starter) yet don't give Franks any margins for error.