Florida reveals the ACTUAL new locker room: Donkey in shambles

[Swamp Donkey]

If we all spent other people's money like Law, we'd be ... Well, I'm not sure I should try to finish that sentence.

If you spent money like Foley, you'd be in the MAC.

 

[soflagator]

Perfect.

 

[CGgater]

I see donk is still hard at work bashing a locker room that doesn’t exist.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I see donk is still hard at work bashing a locker room that doesn’t exist.

Fake locker room that wasn't finished or is temporary or something.

REAL locker room that is spectactular.

 

[LagoonGator68]

I see donk is still hard at work bashing a locker room that doesn’t exist.

I’m surprised he doesn’t claim our new turf is photoshopped.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I’m surprised he doesn’t claim our new turf is photoshopped.

I turfed your mom.

 

[soflagator]

I turfed your mom.

If I remember correctly from a thread a while back, Lagoon is no spring chicken. I have to imagine his mother would be pretty up there in age. Old enough to make such a comment, let alone the act itself, not cool.

Get it together, Kellen.

 

[LagoonGator68]

If I remember correctly from a thread a while back, Lagoon is no spring chicken. I have to imagine his mother would be pretty up there in age. Old enough to make such a comment, let alone the act itself, not cool.

Get it together, Kellen.

Swonk loves them 115 year olds.....

 

[LagoonGator68]

Fake locker room that wasn't finished or is temporary or something.

REAL locker room that is spectactular.

There’s about 2 companies and 2 architect groups that specialize in college football locker rooms.

 

[jaywalker72]

I am with the Donkmeister on this one:

1. It's pitiful that the University of Florida football program, one of the wealthiest in all the land, has players saying "We ain't po no mo."

2. The video from 2012 feat. Frankie Hammond shows the exact same locker room with three more TVs (which are considerably cheaper than in 2012), new paint on the lockers, and mood lighting. The exact same lockers, ceiling and floor. I can't even believe that cost 1M to do. Maybe they did some things in the walls or bathrooms that required a ton of dollars to restructure, but the locker room itself doesn't show it.

3. Glad the guys that decided to be Gators anyway can feel more special about their locker room -- I am truly glad for them - they deserve much more, in my opinion, but good to see them make a big deal about it.

4. The reason I am fired up about this is one of principal. Schools that have the type of donations this school does and revenue overall simply do not have this issue. It makes me, personally, feel like the folks who are dutifully giving are getting ripped off and where does all that money go if not into the facilities that our student-athletes, present and future, can enjoy. I have assumed, for years, that things were taken care of and the people in charge cared as much about these things as I did. Looks like I was way wrong in that assumption.

5. To be in such arrears in football facilities is so arrogant, especially with money that comes in from this sport. To mess with this golden goose is to mess with future facilities for all the other student-athletes from other sports.

6. Glad they did something -- and I am hopeful it's the end of the we're-not-getting-into-a-war-of-facilities failure that was called out nationally as far back as 2014. Florida AD Jeremy Foley has made questionable decisions in latest coaching search

 

[Concrete Helmet]

We have pulled ourselves solidly into the middle layer of Conference USA. So that is an improvement.

One of my co workers is the brother of UK's co-oc & Qb coach, Darin Hinshaw. He just visited the UK facility last week and showed me pictures today....Lets just say they are at least from the pictures light years ahead of us.

 

[LagoonGator68]

One of my co workers is the brother of UK's co-oc & Qb coach, Darin Hinshaw. He just visited the UK facility last week and showed me pictures today....Lets just say they are at least from the pictures light years ahead of us.

Surely, even you can see the limitations of being beneath the South end zone....

 

[Gator By Marriage]

If I remember correctly from a thread a while back, Lagoon is no spring chicken. I have to imagine his mother would be pretty up there in age. Old enough to make such a comment, let alone the act itself, not cool.

Get it together, Kellen.

Like for working in “Kellen.”

 

[Swamp Donkey]

If I remember correctly from a thread a while back, Lagoon is no spring chicken. I have to imagine his mother would be pretty up there in age. Old enough to make such a comment, let alone the act itself, not cool.

Get it together, Kellen.

The truth is, with all these old codgers, we should be saying I turfed your daughter. Even wife wouldnt be much fun and would likely result in squeaking, dust and cobwebs.

Still, the "your mom" habit dies hard.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

One of my co workers is the brother of UK's co-oc & Qb coach, Darin Hinshaw. He just visited the UK facility last week and showed me pictures today....Lets just say they are at least from the pictures light years ahead of us.

They've been a decades ahead of us since 2000 or so. Honestly, I couldn't believe how nice it was even then.

Fooley was of the opinion that it didn't matter, and I guess it didn't... until it did.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I
Schools that have the type of donations this school does and revenue overall simply do not have this issue. It makes me, personally, feel like the folks who are dutifully giving are getting ripped off

If it makes you feel better, we have a GIANT staff of administrators and other worthless bureaucrats who make HUGE money. They don't get cut rate salaries with that "University of Florida discount."

 

[Swamp Donkey]

There’s about 2 companies and 2 architect groups that specialize in college football locker rooms.

Seriously, dude, I could do that in three weekends with 5 Mexicans from the Lowes parking lot.

How hard is painting lockers and cinder block walls?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I 6. Glad they did something -- and I am hopeful it's the end of the we're-not-getting-into-a-war-of-facilities failure that was called out nationally as far back as 2014. Florida AD Jeremy Foley has made questionable decisions in latest coaching search

In December 2004, Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley pulled off one of the great coups in modern college sports when he beat out Notre Dame to hire Utah coach Urban Meyer. The only greater indignity for Notre Dame than losing out on a rising star who had said that coaching the Irish was his “dream” job was that television cameras tracked Notre Dame AD Kevin White from the moment the private plane with a ND logo landed in Salt Lake City. Notre Dame’s failure played out like reality television, while Foley surreptitiously slipped in and out of Salt Lake City to secure Meyer’s services without notice.

In December 2014, reporters tracked Foley’s trip on a private plane to Fort Collins, Colo. Members of the media then followed a white SUV carrying him to the house of Colorado State coach Jim McElwain. There’s even a picture of Foley admiring the view. Reports have identified McElwain as the leading candidate to replace Will Muschamp at Florida, and it would be shocking if Foley went through that whole exercise without pulling the trigger. (UPDATE: Florida announced the hiring of McElwain on Thursday morning.)

Ten years to the day of White’s ill-fated trip to Salt Lake City, Foley’s voyage to Fort Collins unfolded like a bungled modern coaching search, with fans and journalists live tweeting along the way. Foley waited a year too long to fire Muschamp and then proceeded to run a search without the same discretion and aggressiveness that allowed him to outfox Notre Dame a decade ago. We’ll reserve judgment on McElwain for what he does on the field. But the lost 2014 season at Florida and squandered opportunities for Foley to hire a more established and bigger name coach shows just how far he and the Gators have fallen.

How has Foley messed up things in the last decade? Let us count the ways. Start with the candidates Foley likely could have lured to Gainesville. There are four coaches with better track records and decisively more potential that Foley missed or ignored. The timing of Foley’s firing of Muschamp cost him a shot at Charlie Strong and James Franklin last year. For reasons that are still unclear, Foley ruled out Rich Rodriguez and Dan Mullen before this search even began. The result is the rest of the SEC snickering at Foley, who has two football flops -- Ron Zook and Muschamp -- and a Hall of Famer (Meyer) on his track record. McElwain deserves a shot, but there aren’t a lot of signs that he’s the next Meyer.

Consider that in October 2004, Foley fired Zook after a loss at Mississippi State. By doing so, he became the model of an aggressive athletic official for dismissing his football coach early in the season. Foley then went out and hired the best available coach, and it paid dividends when Meyer led Florida to a pair of national championships.

But in 2013, with Florida’s offense stuck in the Proterozoic era and the program hitting a low by going 4-8 and losing to Georgia Southern, Foley didn’t take action. Foley blamed injuries, and his naïve belief in Muschamp belied the obvious -- Muschamp simply wasn’t a good head coach. (And Foley’s biggest blunder may have been choosing Muschamp over Strong, then the coach at Louisville, or Mullen in 2010. He chose an unknown commodity at the Florida pressure cooker over a proven one).

By keeping Muschamp for 2014, Foley’s belief in his own hire trumped the reality of a situation that everyone but him saw clearly. He stuck with Muschamp for a predictably flat 6-5 season, his faith proving dubious on first guess and embarrassing on the second. The inability to show the same vision he had in 2004 cost Florida mightily. Foley whiffing on Strong has to be especially galling to Florida fans, who saw him recruit and coach so well there at various times over 15 seasons. Instead of going with the obvious choice, Foley appeared to try to outsmart everyone.

Under Muschamp this season the results were predictable. Florida still looked pre-historic on offense, lost by a combined score of 84-34 to the SEC’s two division winners (Alabama and Missouri) and inevitably brought Foley to the decision he couldn’t muster the gusto to make the year before. (Foley’s biggest mistake with Muschamp may have been allowing him to hire Charlie Weis as offensive coordinator in his first year, a tone deaf $765,000-a-year mistake bailed out only by Kansas’ Mr. Magoo vision to make him the head coach. The move put Florida in a two-year hole on offense).

When this coaching search came around, Florida’s strangest maneuver came when it leaked to ESPN the day Muschamp got fired that it wouldn’t be pursuing Mississippi State’s Dan Mullen or Arizona’s Rich Rodriguez. This would have been fine if the Gators hired Bob Stoops or Chip Kelly, but in retrospect it appeared like Foley was setting a low bar. There’s been no good reason given for both those coaches not being considered, and few competent athletic directors would choose McElwain over Mullen or Rodriguez. (If the narrative of a blue blood school passing on Rodriguez for an obscure Mountain West coach sounds familiar, ask Michigan how that worked out.)

Comparing McElwain to Mullen or Rodriguez is unfair, as Rodriguez nearly made the national title game at West Virginia and has Arizona -- ARIZONA! -- in the Pac-12 title game. Mullen overcame a half-century of futility at Mississippi State and led the Bulldogs to a No. 1 ranking this season, has unquestioned offensive acumen and brings the invaluable experience of having coached in the Florida bubble. Either would be realistic threats to win the national title with the Gators. McElwain has had a solid season at Colorado State (10-2), and his experience under Nick Saban at Alabama will help him in the SEC.

McElwain’s best career head coaching win came at Boston College this fall, while Mullen and Rodriguez have a track record of building non-traditional powers to the highest levels. To be fair, few expected Foley to call Mullen. They have a decent relationship, but it became complicated after Foley essentially mocked Mullen’s decision to leave his job as Florida’s offensive coordinator for Mississippi State.

The decision to rule out Rodriguez may come back to haunt Foley the most. While Rodriguez had NCAA issues at Michigan and clashed with the administration, he’s been a model coach at Arizona and his offensive ingenuity would be embraced along with his down-home personality. When Foley ruled out Rodriguez and Mullen for the job, the SEC let out a collective sigh of relief. If Foley hires McElwain, there will be high fives of celebration, as the move looms as intimidating as a Powder Puff prevent defense. (Can't you imagine Steve Spurrier already getting his one-liners ready for media day?)

As Florida has sputtered through the past two seasons, the most glaring example of Foley’s negligence and arrogance has come through his refusal to acknowledge the Gator’s inferior football facilities. At the press conference in which he dismissed Muschamp, Foley shot down any notion of Florida falling behind in facilities.

Florida lacks a stand-alone indoor facility, and Foley’s refusal to acknowledge this as a problem prompted mocking texts and audible laughs around the SEC. (Both Mississippi schools have vastly superior football facilities.) While Foley has taken a victory lap for the millions that the athletic department has donated back to the University -- more than $77 million since 1992 -- the Gators are in the bottom tier of the SEC in terms of football facilities. Foley is the only one who has failed to realize this.

“Foley’s position reminds me of Miami in the early 2000s, which denied having facility problems because of their success and then found themselves a decade behind the competition,” said a southern coach familiar with both schools.

....

One decade after he outsmarted Notre Dame, Foley looked foolish on Tuesday night for both the way he ran the search and the coaches he didn’t go after. Rest assured if the next coach flops, Foley won’t be around to correct his mistake.

 

[Sec14Gator]

The video from 2012 feat. Frankie Hammond shows the exact same locker room with three more TVs (which are considerably cheaper than in 2012), new paint on the lockers, and mood lighting. The exact same lockers, ceiling and floor. I can't even believe that cost 1M to do.[/QUOTEhe lockers are new not painted. Look at the dividing panels in the two versions and you can see that difference as well as a seating area that comes out

How hard is painting lockers and cinder block walls?

I thought they were painted too, but they are new lockers. Look at the dividers and seats in the new ones vs old and you can see this differences.

They aren’t top of the market though. Here are some others:

 

[LagoonGator68]

In December 2004, Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley pulled off one of the great coups in modern college sports when he beat out Notre Dame to hire Utah coach Urban Meyer. The only greater indignity for Notre Dame than losing out on a rising star who had said that coaching the Irish was his “dream” job was that television cameras tracked Notre Dame AD Kevin White from the moment the private plane with a ND logo landed in Salt Lake City. Notre Dame’s failure played out like reality television, while Foley surreptitiously slipped in and out of Salt Lake City to secure Meyer’s services without notice.

In December 2014, reporters tracked Foley’s trip on a private plane to Fort Collins, Colo. Members of the media then followed a white SUV carrying him to the house of Colorado State coach Jim McElwain. There’s even a picture of Foley admiring the view. Reports have identified McElwain as the leading candidate to replace Will Muschamp at Florida, and it would be shocking if Foley went through that whole exercise without pulling the trigger. (UPDATE: Florida announced the hiring of McElwain on Thursday morning.)

Ten years to the day of White’s ill-fated trip to Salt Lake City, Foley’s voyage to Fort Collins unfolded like a bungled modern coaching search, with fans and journalists live tweeting along the way. Foley waited a year too long to fire Muschamp and then proceeded to run a search without the same discretion and aggressiveness that allowed him to outfox Notre Dame a decade ago. We’ll reserve judgment on McElwain for what he does on the field. But the lost 2014 season at Florida and squandered opportunities for Foley to hire a more established and bigger name coach shows just how far he and the Gators have fallen.

How has Foley messed up things in the last decade? Let us count the ways. Start with the candidates Foley likely could have lured to Gainesville. There are four coaches with better track records and decisively more potential that Foley missed or ignored. The timing of Foley’s firing of Muschamp cost him a shot at Charlie Strong and James Franklin last year. For reasons that are still unclear, Foley ruled out Rich Rodriguez and Dan Mullen before this search even began. The result is the rest of the SEC snickering at Foley, who has two football flops -- Ron Zook and Muschamp -- and a Hall of Famer (Meyer) on his track record. McElwain deserves a shot, but there aren’t a lot of signs that he’s the next Meyer.

Consider that in October 2004, Foley fired Zook after a loss at Mississippi State. By doing so, he became the model of an aggressive athletic official for dismissing his football coach early in the season. Foley then went out and hired the best available coach, and it paid dividends when Meyer led Florida to a pair of national championships.

But in 2013, with Florida’s offense stuck in the Proterozoic era and the program hitting a low by going 4-8 and losing to Georgia Southern, Foley didn’t take action. Foley blamed injuries, and his naïve belief in Muschamp belied the obvious -- Muschamp simply wasn’t a good head coach. (And Foley’s biggest blunder may have been choosing Muschamp over Strong, then the coach at Louisville, or Mullen in 2010. He chose an unknown commodity at the Florida pressure cooker over a proven one).

By keeping Muschamp for 2014, Foley’s belief in his own hire trumped the reality of a situation that everyone but him saw clearly. He stuck with Muschamp for a predictably flat 6-5 season, his faith proving dubious on first guess and embarrassing on the second. The inability to show the same vision he had in 2004 cost Florida mightily. Foley whiffing on Strong has to be especially galling to Florida fans, who saw him recruit and coach so well there at various times over 15 seasons. Instead of going with the obvious choice, Foley appeared to try to outsmart everyone.

Under Muschamp this season the results were predictable. Florida still looked pre-historic on offense, lost by a combined score of 84-34 to the SEC’s two division winners (Alabama and Missouri) and inevitably brought Foley to the decision he couldn’t muster the gusto to make the year before. (Foley’s biggest mistake with Muschamp may have been allowing him to hire Charlie Weis as offensive coordinator in his first year, a tone deaf $765,000-a-year mistake bailed out only by Kansas’ Mr. Magoo vision to make him the head coach. The move put Florida in a two-year hole on offense).

When this coaching search came around, Florida’s strangest maneuver came when it leaked to ESPN the day Muschamp got fired that it wouldn’t be pursuing Mississippi State’s Dan Mullen or Arizona’s Rich Rodriguez. This would have been fine if the Gators hired Bob Stoops or Chip Kelly, but in retrospect it appeared like Foley was setting a low bar. There’s been no good reason given for both those coaches not being considered, and few competent athletic directors would choose McElwain over Mullen or Rodriguez. (If the narrative of a blue blood school passing on Rodriguez for an obscure Mountain West coach sounds familiar, ask Michigan how that worked out.)

Comparing McElwain to Mullen or Rodriguez is unfair, as Rodriguez nearly made the national title game at West Virginia and has Arizona -- ARIZONA! -- in the Pac-12 title game. Mullen overcame a half-century of futility at Mississippi State and led the Bulldogs to a No. 1 ranking this season, has unquestioned offensive acumen and brings the invaluable experience of having coached in the Florida bubble. Either would be realistic threats to win the national title with the Gators. McElwain has had a solid season at Colorado State (10-2), and his experience under Nick Saban at Alabama will help him in the SEC.

McElwain’s best career head coaching win came at Boston College this fall, while Mullen and Rodriguez have a track record of building non-traditional powers to the highest levels. To be fair, few expected Foley to call Mullen. They have a decent relationship, but it became complicated after Foley essentially mocked Mullen’s decision to leave his job as Florida’s offensive coordinator for Mississippi State.

The decision to rule out Rodriguez may come back to haunt Foley the most. While Rodriguez had NCAA issues at Michigan and clashed with the administration, he’s been a model coach at Arizona and his offensive ingenuity would be embraced along with his down-home personality. When Foley ruled out Rodriguez and Mullen for the job, the SEC let out a collective sigh of relief. If Foley hires McElwain, there will be high fives of celebration, as the move looms as intimidating as a Powder Puff prevent defense. (Can't you imagine Steve Spurrier already getting his one-liners ready for media day?)

As Florida has sputtered through the past two seasons, the most glaring example of Foley’s negligence and arrogance has come through his refusal to acknowledge the Gator’s inferior football facilities. At the press conference in which he dismissed Muschamp, Foley shot down any notion of Florida falling behind in facilities.

Florida lacks a stand-alone indoor facility, and Foley’s refusal to acknowledge this as a problem prompted mocking texts and audible laughs around the SEC. (Both Mississippi schools have vastly superior football facilities.) While Foley has taken a victory lap for the millions that the athletic department has donated back to the University -- more than $77 million since 1992 -- the Gators are in the bottom tier of the SEC in terms of football facilities. Foley is the only one who has failed to realize this.

“Foley’s position reminds me of Miami in the early 2000s, which denied having facility problems because of their success and then found themselves a decade behind the competition,” said a southern coach familiar with both schools.

....

One decade after he outsmarted Notre Dame, Foley looked foolish on Tuesday night for both the way he ran the search and the coaches he didn’t go after. Rest assured if the next coach flops, Foley won’t be around to correct his mistake.

WTF is the Proterozoic Era anyway......is that like Tommy Prothro or some GMO’d Protozoa shiit....damn, I must have ditched school for the beach babes that day?