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Yesterday, the US government tried to borrow $24 billion by selling a bunch of 30 year debt. It was a huge disaster. In order to get enough people to buy, the rate had to dramatically increase. Even then, then primary dealers had to buy 25% of the debt. The primary dealer are the buyers of last resort who have to buy. China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, Russia ... none of them are buying our debt. In fact, most are selling what they already have. With few buying, the US government is borrowing more than ever. $1.5 trillion in the past 4 months and they announced another $1.5 trillion in the next 6 months. The US government will have to offer higher and higher rates to attracted lenders.
 

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And Moody's just cut their short term outlook on the US to negative. The AAA rating still was kept, but the outlook was changed. so from the 3 rating agencies the US has 2 AA+ ratings and only 1 AAA rating with a negative outlook attached to it.
 

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I saw where Zillow says listings were up in August...as a side note foreclosures were also up in Florida over the last few months. Interesting times for sure. So much conflicting data it just begs an investor to keep a majority share in those risk free 5.5% Tbills for a while.


Seeking advice: I have a $10,000 I-bond that went over 1 year on Nov 1. It says on the treasury direct site that interest rate is 4.88% (I have a second I-bond, with $5,000 that goes over 1 year on Jan 1). The first one is at 4.35%, the second is at 3.79%. Should I redeem the $10k bond?
 

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Seeking advice: I have a $10,000 I-bond that went over 1 year on Nov 1. It says on the treasury direct site that interest rate is 4.88% (I have a second I-bond, with $5,000 that goes over 1 year on Jan 1). The first one is at 4.35%, the second is at 3.79%. Should I redeem the $10k bond?
LOL. What a coincidence. I just had an I Bond go over one year and I am going to redeem mine. I bought it when the rate was over 9% but now with the fixed rate + the rate of inflation, I can find something that is at least equal to the I Bond rate. Granted by redeeming it prior to 5 years I have to forfeit 3 months interest, but I am okay with that given that the I Bond rate no longer exceeds other instruments that are readily available.
 

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LOL. What a coincidence. I just had an I Bond go over one year and I am going to redeem mine. I bought it when the rate was over 9% but now with the fixed rate + the rate of inflation, I can find something that is at least equal to the I Bond rate. Granted by redeeming it prior to 5 years I have to forfeit 3 months interest, but I am okay with that given that the I Bond rate no longer exceeds other instruments that are readily available.

Okay - that's the way I was leaning. I've been laddering at PenFed CU, they have 12, 15, and 18 month CDs at 5.35% so I'm happy with that. I could get a little higher rate at a few other banks, but it's not worth it to me to open up multiple accounts to get an extra .1%, .2% or so.
 

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LOL. What a coincidence. I just had an I Bond go over one year and I am going to redeem mine. I bought it when the rate was over 9% but now with the fixed rate + the rate of inflation, I can find something that is at least equal to the I Bond rate. Granted by redeeming it prior to 5 years I have to forfeit 3 months interest, but I am okay with that given that the I Bond rate no longer exceeds other instruments that are readily available.
What are your thoughts on AAA Muni's? The 20yr is still around 5.30% and with the tax savings probably better than 6% or so?
 

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I saw where Zillow says listings were up in August...as a side note foreclosures were also up in Florida over the last few months. Interesting times for sure.
Had to go back to this post as the trend in HELOC's is shifting. We've been getting a steady dose of some ugly files over the last few weeks for sure. 3 that are/were scheduled for the courthouse steps. Also, I've noticed that the average property value on applications is steadily dropping telling me 2 things.....1. The computer based system that these particular lenders are using is trimming back the values of property and 2. The majority of borrowers that are seeking HELOC's at this point are more "average Joe's" if you will and just trying to get out from under 18% CC interest rates(again).

We did get a noticeable uptick in orders starting last week and some pretty decent purchase orders(non investment)so I still believe there is some built up demand in the market that is finally realizing higher for longer may be here for a while.

Oh, and divorce buyouts are still going up telling me there is some nasty financial issues that will be coming out more and more over the next year or so.
 

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What are your thoughts on AAA Muni's? The 20yr is still around 5.30% and with the tax savings probably better than 6% or so?
I think this just depends on your personal tax situation. So if someone is like you and has boat loads of cash I can understand it, The Muni's will probably be priced at or close to Treasury equivalents. If you want a little more pop you can go down the rating scale or pick up good taxable corporate bonds,
 

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Have you guys seen the new tax brackets for this year and next year? Screw job to say the least....if there is one crime I understand people do, it's tax evasion.

Citizens Bank of Iowa 5th bank to close

Credit card debt now over a record trillion dollars

CEO of Citigroup says they could layoff 10% of their workforce....recovering economy my ass....
 

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No need to worry. Just borrow from your retirement or cash it in early as the taxes and penalty is less than your CC debt.

I saw where Fidelity said hardship borrowing from 401K is up 300%....Robust economy my ass...anyone with half a brain has known how bad were being lied to over the last 3-4 years...
 

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People be aware of your financial transactions....Fidelity is hacked and so are some major loan servicers and lenders. We have not been able to order payoffs from Mr. Cooper, Loancare and another servicer this week and are locked out of Fidelity for underwriting and just received a list from our other underwriter of companies to be on the outlook for .....Crazy sh!t happening out there. Looks like ransom attacks. We've also had several attempts to alter wiring for funds in the last week.
 
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At the risk of getting @Detroitgator all worked up over this again :lol: I saw just yesterday that although the dollar, is still the largest currency to settle trade transactions around the world, Gold, yes Gold has been steadily climbing over the last 18 months....something about seizing legally held assets is changing the way the world is doing business....

In other bright and cheery news Japan's currency is being squashed into oblivion by the almighty dollar and without them buying US treasuries(they are the largest purchaser/holder) and China having already unloaded and not buying our geniuses here will have to buy their own debt down at steadily rising rates....How many PHD's are there at the FED and Treasury...:rotfl:
 

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At the risk of getting @Detroitgator all worked up over this again :lol: I saw just yesterday that although the dollar, is still the largest currency to settle trade transactions around the world, Gold, yes Gold has been steadily climbing over the last 18 months....something about seizing legally held assets is changing the way the world is doing business....

In other bright and cheery news Japan's currency is being squashed into oblivion by the almighty dollar and without them buying US treasuries(they are the largest purchaser/holder) and China having already unloaded and not buying our geniuses here will have to buy their own debt down at steadily rising rates....How many PHD's are there at the FED and Treasury...:rotfl:
Why would I get worked up over you repeating something I've been saying for 20 years here and on GSMB before here? :dunno:

As for the article, from the title alone, DUH!, Gold doesn't "go up," it merely reflects the devaluing of currency (and how many lessons/primers have I posted over the years about the differences/definitions between "money" vs "currency" vs "fiat currency"...) and holds its value. I can't even remember the first time I posted about measuring things not by $, but by "oz's of gold" like eggs, a barrel of oil, a house, or, the oldest analogy, a "good suit". That 100 years ago, 1 oz of gold would buy you a good (fitted/tailored) suit. Today, 1 oz of gold will buy you a good (fitted/tailored) suit. The fact that the suit cost you $30 then and $2400 now is still just "one suit." Gold has held its value, not gone "up"... the dollar has gone down first as "currency actually backed by money," then starting in 1971 (when we declared bankruptcy to the world) as "fiat currency."
 

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Why would I get worked up over you repeating something I've been saying for 20 years here and on GSMB before here? :dunno:

As for the article, from the title alone, DUH!, Gold doesn't "go up," it merely reflects the devaluing of currency (and how many lessons/primers have I posted over the years about the differences/definitions between "money" vs "currency" vs "fiat currency"...) and holds its value. I can't even remember the first time I posted about measuring things not by $, but by "oz's of gold" like eggs, a barrel of oil, a house, or, the oldest analogy, a "good suit". That 100 years ago, 1 oz of gold would buy you a good (fitted/tailored) suit. Today, 1 oz of gold will buy you a good (fitted/tailored) suit. The fact that the suit cost you $30 then and $2400 now is still just "one suit." Gold has held its value, not gone "up"... the dollar has gone down first as "currency actually backed by money," then starting in 1971 (when we declared bankruptcy to the world) as "fiat currency."
Sheldon Cooper Reaction GIF by CBS
 

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Since it's obvious that "highly educated people" are inept at controlling the monetary system in the US I vote that we have a panel of 50 small business owners from around the country vote and set the monetary policy of the country.....Must have a 20 plus year track record of success, employ between 10-40 people, heavily weighted from areas with low taxation/business friendly....Since this representation would cover 65% of working class people.

I guarantee you this sh!tshow would be fixed in less than a year....our current system is inept and rotten to the core.
 

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20 minute video, play it 1.25X to shorten the time


Personal debt never been higher....personal savings at or near all time low....yeah, the economy is all but dead but the messaging to the brain washed masses keeps them marching right over the cliff.
 

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