Should the 3 point line be banned from college and pro basketball?

[Zambo]

Yes... because watching a pitcher trying to hit is breathtaking.
Like Bartolo Colon's lifetime batting average of 0.94... it would be riveting.

Baseball is about strategy and percentages. Knowing that Colon can't hit, a manager is faced with leaving him in the game and wasting an at-bat, or pulling him for another pitcher so someone else can hit. When you take away this sort of strategy, you take away a big part of the game.

 

[divits]

I like the three.

 

[Loogis]

Yes... because watching a pitcher trying to hit is breathtaking.
Like Bartolo Colon's lifetime batting average of 0.94... it would be riveting.

Having said that, why not 9 DHs then?

 

[Gatordiddy]

Baseball is about strategy and percentages. Knowing that Colon can't hit, a manager is faced with leaving him in the game and wasting an at-bat, or pulling him for another pitcher so someone else can hit. When you take away this sort of strategy, you take away a big part of the game.

Very fair point... and yet part of the game that I played growing up is being able to hit.
Watching these pitchers attempt to swing a bat is literally embarrassing for the game.

But I understand your position...
It would be like substituting/DH for Shaq when he had to go to the line for free throws.
Knowing he is the worst free throw shooter in the history of basketball (or any other player that you know can't hit free throws) affects who you end up fouling near the end of a game.

I do like to see the DH in the AL because it also adds an offensive element to the game without having to sacrifice a pitcher.

 

[Gatordiddy]

Having said that, why not 9 DHs then?

Great question:
Because (typically) the other eight guys can actually hit the ball.
Or hopefully hit at least 3 out of 10 times

 

[Gatordiddy]

Disclaimer... I now live in a National League town (Denver).
And watching the Rockies pitchers try to hit is comical.

And if it's the first half of a game or so... you ain't pulling the pitcher just because he's an embarrassment at the plate. So we have to endure Kyle Freeland or German Marquez flailing about at a 93mph fastball.

 

[t-gator]

I like the three.

That's what she said

 

[Swamp Donkey]

That's what she said

 

[divits]

That's what she said

Whyyyyyy you I oughta'.....

 

[Zambo]

Great question:
Because (typically) the other eight guys can actually hit the ball.
Or hopefully hit at least 3 out of 10 times

Maybe Colon should learn how to hit?

 

[Gatordiddy]

Maybe Colon should learn how to hit?

All pitchers should learn how to hit. Kershaw can 'kinda' hit - (lifetime avg .163)

Growing up I always thought that the pitchers should make the best hitters given their knowledge of the various types of pitches being thrown. Guess they don't really worry about that aspect of their game, especially since they aren't every day players anyway.

 

[Zambo]

Bottom line is that two pitchers that are fairly equal on the mound, but one can hit better than the other, that guy is gonna play for more money in the NL.

 

[Gatordiddy]

Bottom line is that two pitchers that are fairly equal on the mound, but one can hit better than the other, that guy is gonna play for more money in the NL.

Do you honestly think that a ballclub even factors hitting into the equation when considering whether to sign a pitcher?
"But can he hit?" probably never comes up in the front office when it comes to deciding between a Jacob deGrom or a Max Scherzer.
"Gee Bob, Jacob is hitting .081 with runners in scoring position while Max is at .074. I say we go with deGrom".

One pitcher hitting "better" than the other is like saying:
"Well, she's not pretty, but at least she's not as ugly as her sister".
To me, it's negligible.

And now I've forgotten what the OP is...

Oh yeah, ...three pointer.
Keep it...
It's like the NHL restructuring the blue line to add more scoring.

It's essentially an attempt to NOT be like the 1-0 flopper, ...er, I mean, soccer games...(yawn).

 

[InstiGATOR1]

Take the current NBA 3pt line, move it back about 3 feet, make it a smooth arc from the hoop so no short baseline 3s (the straight line areas are completely eliminated).

It makes the 3 longer, but it also shortens the arc considerably so it makes defending the 3 easier.

Alex.

Nice graph, though another one with the expected point value would also be illuminating. To me what it shows and what Ox's question raises is that the court needs to be wider along with 3 point line moved back. But alas old arenas like at Duke don't have the room to widen the court so it has not happened.

Also I think the 3 point shot should be turned off at half court. Someplace inside of the half court shooting starts and throwing ends. I know any shot made from the back court is just a throw at the basket and not shooting skill. No reason for an extra reward for non skill.

 

[LeeForThree]

Does anyone else think that stupid line has ruined the game? Now you have asshats standing around that line for entire games. In my opinion, it has ruined a lot of the creativity of the game. If it was removed, how would the game change? Would players actually have to play the effing game?

Discuss.

Love it, but I think it needs to be moved back to the NBA line

 

[LeeForThree]

Nice graph, though another one with the expected point value would also be illuminating. To me what it shows and what Ox's question raises is that the court needs to be wider along with 3 point line moved back. But alas old arenas like at Duke don't have the room to widen the court so it has not happened.

Also I think the 3 point shot should be turned off at half court. Someplace inside of the half court shooting starts and throwing ends. I know any shot made from the back court is just a throw at the basket and not shooting skill. No reason for an extra reward for non skill.

They have enough money...it would be an easy fix

 

[Zambo]

Do you honestly think that a ballclub even factors hitting into the equation when considering whether to sign a pitcher?
"But can he hit?" probably never comes up in the front office when it comes to deciding between a Jacob deGrom or a Max Scherzer.
"Gee Bob, Jacob is hitting .081 with runners in scoring position while Max is at .074. I say we go with deGrom".

One pitcher hitting "better" than the other is like saying:
"Well, she's not pretty, but at least she's not as ugly as her sister".
To me, it's negligible.

And now I've forgotten what the OP is...

Oh yeah, ...three pointer.
Keep it...
It's like the NHL restructuring the blue line to add more scoring.

It's essentially an attempt to NOT be like the 1-0 flopper, ...er, I mean, soccer games...(yawn).

No, I think pitchers should be able to hit a friggin baseball. They aren't women fer crissakes.

 

[Zambo]

You wanna make basketball interesting? Give out 1 point for a layup, 2 points from beyond 10 feet, 3 beyond 15 feet, 4 beyond 18 feet, and 5 beyond 20 feet. You get 5 points for a dunk, 8 points for an alley-oop dunk, and 30 points if you break the backboard. BTW, get rid of dribbling and fouls, and reduce the shot clock to 10 seconds.

 

[Gatordiddy]

No, I think pitchers should be able to hit a friggin baseball. They aren't women fer crissakes.

They should be able to hit, and yet... they don't.
Pitchers not being able to hit is not new to the game.
It's just not important to their development.
So why subject their ineptitude to the paying public?
It's like watching Garo Yepremian throw a pass.

 

[Zambo]

They should be able to hit, and yet... they don't.
Pitchers not being able to hit is not new to the game.
It's just not important to their development.
So why subject their ineptitude to the paying public?

Its just a part of the game. All the other players know how to hit. I'm sure there are plenty of humans who are stellar fielders who can't hit worth a crap. Those guys don't play professional baseball because there are guys who can field as well as hit. I fail to see why pitching is any different. The only reason pitchers can't hit is because nobody makes them hit. We turn specialists into superstars. The real superstars are guys that can do it all.