Take it for what it's worth

[AugustaGator]

I'm honored recruits are reading Gatorchatter. Hey fellas!

You're in sales aren't you?

 

[AugustaGator]

Lololololololol he thinks it really hurts recruiting. That's freaking hilarious

What is this 'it' you refer to?

If it is negativity, I assure you it is. It's a buyer's market. Many are looking for reasons not to accept.

 

[AugustaGator]

Another post deflecting the blame where it belongs...Mac.

It's the fans. Laughable. If we have the much affect on recruiting then they should hire some us.

2222Goebbels is working overtime.

Swoosh!

The topic is not Mac.

 

[CU-UF]

Social media does count, and it does impact how recruits view the program and university. Are they coming on gatorchatter and reading the boards? Probably not, but it other people do, and they pick up on not the criticism, but the negativity. And then when they go out and speak about the gators its all negative. On many of the posts here there is a stark contrast between criticism and negativity. I have been on Bama and Vol boards, and yes there is plenty criticism on there, but it I don't hear derogatory names of their coaches or calling the staff idiots, looking at some inconsequential thing, like not wearing socks as an example of how "dumb" and "jackass" out coach is.

Even if you don't think message boards matter, you have to admit the possibility that it contributes to the general vibe around the program, as friends tell friends and so on and so on. If that is the case, then it is in your interest to keep things constructive.

 

[jdh5484]

I have made the the statement here that the fan base impacts players' decision to attend a school. I've been told this is a lie.

I am just saying what has been told to me.

Long, long time ago, when I was around people who were potential players, they would speak about the fans. They wanted to be where the fans were supportive, loud, obnoxious, fun, etc.

Believe it or not, I was told, on more than one occasion, UF had a reputation for negative fans...this was back in the late 70's early 80's...probably based on the late 60's, early 70's...Don't shoot the messenger...this is what I was told by potential recruits.

Personally, in the mid and late 80's I thought we had the best fans. We were there every game packed solid, drunk as hell, yelling like crazy till the bitter end whether we lost or won. I do not recall many boos but I do recall lots of loses and signing its great to be a florida gator at the end of the game walking out.

Again, personally, now that I look back over it, I was there for the players and not the other way around. I guess that is why I am not going all negative when we lose. Make constructive criticisms and move on.

Well put.

 

[AugustaGator]

Well the negativity doesn't help. Not sure how much it hurts. May hurt with some recruits. May just be an easy excuse to give the reporters they try to troll everyday. There is logic based negativity and spewing shyt. We have some of both.

The real question is why Miami is getting recruits with Richt rumor out there.

It's not a rumor. It's well known he's gay.

 

[oxrageous]

Never said positive was better than negative. Just that negative is better traffic than constructive criticism. I'm all about the $$$s. But don't ry to act like you're a neutral bystander in all this. And certainly don't try to say that negativity doesn't have an effect, Even on the 30,999 site on the net.

The negativity doesn't have a positive effect, that's what I'm telling you. If we had a good team and the vibe was mostly positive, we'd get more traffic. As far as "constructive criticism", you can't use that in the same sentence as "fan". They don't go together, never have, never will, in any sport, ever.

As far as me, I'm going to keep giving my opinion like I always do, regardless of my ownership of the board. I was always happy with the brutally honest (and entertaining) views of all of us when we were on the GSMB, and didn't want things to change here. I understand it's not for everyone. Those with thin skin left long ago. Those that stick around will find the smartest, funniest, most passionate Gator fans on the internet. There's a reason we have 500-1000 lurkers every single day and growing, despite the poor product on the field and the "tone". People are entertained as hell.

I don't mind mentioning my competitors. Swamp Gas is a place that doesn't allow criticism, unless it's of an extremely constructive nature. If you want to be bored out of your mind, you can always head over there. I don't want anyone to leave, but I understand it.

 

[oxrageous]

One more thing: people under 24 don't visit message boards. According to my data, our visitors that are 23 or under is less than 4%. These kids get ALL their info, positive or negative, from social media.

 

[CU-UF]

One more thing: people under 24 don't visit message boards. According to my data, our visitors that are 23 or under is less than 4%. These kids get ALL their info, positive or negative, from social media.

message boards are a form of social media. yes 18yo are not coming on here, but parents, friends of friends, etc. you get the picture

 

[Omar's Coming Yo!]

I'm calling BS. LSU and Bama fans have called players out on Twitter or sent death threats yet they pull in great classes. I've never seen so much excuse making for a bad coach. WM didn't even get this much backing.
Brandon Harris is garbage and Danny Etling is not much better!Time to play Lindsey Scott!!!
6:17 PM - 24 Sep 2016

 

[Thick&ThinG8r]

It's Zach he's talking about and his afternoon radio show. He's starting to embarrass himself with stuff like this I was listening to Steve Russel on the same UF station at noon and he read an email from Zach stating all the negatively on the station was affecting recruiting, Russel laughed and said Zach my man I don't have a dog in this fight but I have a show to do. He is either protecting his job or angling for a job at Gatorzone with the UAA. Of course, there's the possibility that 2222 is Zach.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Wanna know why recruits arent coming here? Here are a few of the top ones:

127th ranked offense again;

Retained known terrible OC;

Retained terrible ST "coordinator" /TE coach;

Forced to use support staff to recruit;

laziness, one of the last teams to show up to recruits and offer always ; and

Poor recruiter HC and several assts.


I was hopeful in December and even after the bowl game that Butters was going to move forward with fixing the problems. Instead, he demanded to retain the terrible assistants and went public trying to defend it.

There wasnt any significant negativity the last twi years and recruiting still sucked.

Butters killed his own career. Its just a question of time for him.

Im sure he will get another chance at UAB or Southern Miss eventually.

 

[Okeechobee Joe]

Want to reverse fan negativity? Win some big games. Shocking.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Want to reverse fan negativity? Win some big games. Shocking.

Exactly, shut up and win Mr 2-8.

 

[Alagator]

........,,,,Im sure he will get another chance at UAB or Southern Miss eventually.

Maybe FAU after Kiffy gets the boot for knocking up an 18 year old undergrad.

 

[alcoholica]

I think something not talked about is the actually radio shows these kids do interviews on. You get Jake Allen going on a radio show, and you know he's telling everyone he'll be on the radio. So people tune in and they hear a couple callers before Jake's interview and it's all spewed garbage. Or you have people on twitter posting ridiculous stuff. So yeah the kids hear it and they know about it.

Does it really matter? I'm sure it can factor in, especially when coaches and such hear it. It's not like we pack the Swamp anymore. So there is no more "it's a demanding fan base" but they support the team. It looks like we've given up on the team.

I'm guilty of letting frustration set in and piling on, and I'm not saying it is hurting recruiting, but it certainly doesn't help. And the recruits hear the noise. Nothing said on here is going to change how Stricklin does things. Only the big boosters have that influence, and they aren't influenced by GC. So all you've been doing is venting, and it doesn't help recruiting. How much it hurts is probably minimal, but how many times have we come in second place? How many of those kids were truly on the fence and the "noise" affected them? No one knows and it may be zero, but I don't think a single recruit will point to the negativity and say that's why they chose us

 

[revgator]

I'm sorry guys but this is just silly to me. If the negativity on this board is driving recruits away then the opposite must be true. So, if the board becomes overwhelming positive then recruiting will rise with nothing else changing. I don't buy it.
That's like the law of attraction to me, I'll pass.
I remember being on campus when UM was here and I was busting my butt studying and trying to excel. I would be waiting for the bus or walking and I would see the little UAA go cart with the plastic sides with a recruit and his family. I used to just imagine what that experience was like meeting the coaches and university big wigs, having access to locked door facilities, and being given vip treatment to go to the college that I worked so hard to get in.

I highly doubt that at some point that kid said, "all this is great coach, but swamp donkey calls you butters"

 

[CU-UF]

I'm sorry guys but this is just silly to me. If the negativity on this board is driving recruits away then the opposite must be true. So, if the board becomes overwhelming positive then recruiting will rise with nothing else changing. I don't buy it.
That's like the law of attraction to me, I'll pass.
I remember being on campus when UM was here and I was busting my butt studying and trying to excel. I would be waiting for the bus or walking and I would see the little UAA go cart with the plastic sides with a recruit and his family. I used to just imagine what that experience was like meeting the coaches and university big wigs, having access to locked door facilities, and being given vip treatment to go to the college that I worked so hard to get in.

I highly doubt that at some point that kid said, "all this is great coach, but swamp donkey calls you butters"

That's a simplistic response to a complex issue. No one is saying or at least I'm not, that recruit X is coming on a message board and saying "oh they are calling the coaches names, I'm going someplace else". But like it is talked about in the PF, the "liberal" media picks a certain theme, continues to run with it, and it can influence the overall feeling on a particular topic. In this same vein, this constant environment of "butters" and "hee-haw" and "we suck like we never have before", reinforces the theme, like any social media, a friend picks up on it, then another, and so on. Before you know the perception becomes the reality. Like alcoholica says, it certainly isnt helping and worst, it may definitely be hurting, so why engage in it.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

If Butters was winning games and fielding a competent offense, no amount of negativity on the internet would affect him.

Butters created this. It's his failure that caused the rightful analysis of his failures.

 

[CU-UF]

If Butters was winning games and fielding a competent offense, no amount of negativity on the internet would affect him.

Butters created this. It's his failure that caused the rightful analysis of his failures.

I just have to chuckle