The basketball thread

[MertzJay26]

Kinda seems like a lot of people don't feel the same about what a "Great Win" this was. I get the feeling most are chalking it up to, "Hey, it's basketball and Kentucky was gassed. Let's see what happens in Lexington."

We were the ones playing on much shorter rest, so not sure that excuse applies. Plus, Lunardi has us as a 3 seed in his latest projections. Keep discrediting though..

 

[MertzJay26]

Starting to get more love :)

 

[SC Gator]

http://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/canyon-barry-emerging-for-florida/

nice article

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

Arkansas beat SCar on the road tonight, which knocks the Cocks out of the three way tie for first. Looks like it's us and UK to the wire.

 

[LeeForThree]

Didn't know where to put this so I will put it here. Last week i found this info on our 2018 basketball recruiting. Not very in depth, but gives a decent review of where we stand with certain recruits and who we are targeting

http://ufhooprecruits.blogspot.com/2017/02/2018-recruiting-big-board.html?m=1

 

[InstiGATOR1]

Didn't know where to put this so I will put it here. Last week i found this info on our 2018 basketball recruiting. Not very in depth, but gives a decent review of where we stand with certain recruits and who we are targeting

http://ufhooprecruits.blogspot.com/2017/02/2018-recruiting-big-board.html?m=1

Thanks for posting this. It is a nice find. I would have preferred a separate thread on this but understand why you opted to put it here.

I have been wondering about the impact of the Egbunu injury on the 2017 class. Then on Saturday the announcers kept refering to him as a SR, as if they were told his career or at least UF career is over. I debated to my self about raising that in a new thread, in an old basketball recruiting thread or just putting it here.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

Didn't know where to put this so I will put it here. Last week i found this info on our 2018 basketball recruiting. Not very in depth, but gives a decent review of where we stand with certain recruits and who we are targeting

http://ufhooprecruits.blogspot.com/2017/02/2018-recruiting-big-board.html?m=1

Any thoughts on who UF might or should get from that list? I worry about taking anyone at a post position, ie C or PF, who is less than 6'8" tall.

 

[LeeForThree]

Thanks for posting this. It is a nice find. I would have preferred a separate thread on this but understand why you opted to put it here.

I have been wondering about the impact of the Egbunu injury on the 2017 class. Then on Saturday the announcers kept refering to him as a SR, as if they were told his career or at least UF career is over. I debated to my self about raising that in a new thread, in an old basketball recruiting thread or just putting it here.

I don't think the announcers knew anything. More likely they just don't know anything about Florida as usual. The Egbunu situation will be an interesting one. He may miss all next year so he may leave, but if he stays it will probably be to try and get a 6th year the following year or get back earlier than expected (December hopefully) If Robinson leaves I think we are good numbers wise and the class will remain intact. If Robinson stays (he should) then it will get a little crazy

 

[InstiGATOR1]

I don't think the announcers knew anything. More likely they just don't know anything about Florida as usual. The Egbunu situation will be an interesting one. He may miss all next year so he may leave, but if he stays it will probably be to try and get a 6th year the following year or get back earlier than expected (December hopefully) If Robinson leaves I think we are good numbers wise and the class will remain intact. If Robinson stays (he should) then it will get a little crazy

You are probably right about the announcers. As of now I see UF having the following players and signess on the 2017-18 roster: SRs: Chiozza, Egbunu, Robinson, JRs: Allen, Hayes, Hudson, SOPHs: Hester, Gak, Stone, FROSHs: Ballard, Bassett, Johnson, Okauru, Stokes which as you say puts UF one over if everyone stays.

I am not sure I think Robinson should stay particularly if his group has a good run in the tourney. He could be a guy like Parsons with good college numbers but measureables and skills that translate better to the NBA.

I did get to know a UF player's father a few years back. He said that then in the Donovan era players were offered scholarships after UF filled up for the next season on a contingency basis in order that they committed. That would mean that if UF does not have anything open up Okauru would be out. If Pons happened to commit to UF now, then Okauru would get first openning then Pons the second. Of course Donovan is not here not and there is a new AD too, but that was how the situation was described to me a few years back.

 

[ATXGator]

You are probably right about the announcers. As of now I see UF having the following players and signess on the 2017-18 roster: SRs: Chiozza, Egbunu, Robinson, JRs: Allen, Hayes, Hudson, SOPHs: Hester, Gak, Stone, FROSHs: Ballard, Bassett, Johnson, Okauru, Stokes which as you say puts UF one over if everyone stays.

I am not sure I think Robinson should stay particularly if his group has a good run in the tourney. He could be a guy like Parsons with good college numbers but measureables and skills that translate better to the NBA.

I did get to know a UF player's father a few years back. He said that then in the Donovan era players were offered scholarships after UF filled up for the next season on a contingency basis in order that they committed. That would mean that if UF does not have anything open up Okauru would be out. If Pons happened to commit to UF now, then Okauru would get first openning then Pons the second. Of course Donovan is not here not and there is a new AD too, but that was how the situation was described to me a few years back.

I get your point about Robinson's skills translating better to the NBA than to college, but I don't think he is close to as good as Parson's was in his junior or senior year. Parson's actually had the ability to take over the game and really dominate. I haven't seen Robinson show that yet. I think he does have the skills to do is, especially as he gets better with his pull-up jumper. For some reason I never feel like he is aggressive enough when he has the ball.

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

Egbunu really wouldn't be able to make it back by next November? I feel like 9 months is more than enough time to recover.

 

[GatorStud]

I'm just exited we're relevant. I hope we get to and have a few hell yeahs! in the dance :cool:

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

I'm just exited we're relevant. I hope we get to and have a few hell yeahs! in the dance :cool:

I'll be happy making the 2nd weekend after the last two years being so crappy. As of right now, Lunardi has Notre Dame as the 6 seed in our bracket with us as the 3. That's a ridiculously difficult second round matchup.

 

[LeeForThree]

Any thoughts on who UF might or should get from that list? I worry about taking anyone at a post position, ie C or PF, who is less than 6'8" tall.

Just from what I have read and watched: Dream class

PG: Weaver
SG:
SF: Little and Moore
PF: Williams
C: Brown

More likely but I think it's possible:

PG:
SG
SF: Little and Moore
PF: Williams
C:

A lot of the class will depend on current commits and players leaving early. I think we take 3 for sure next season and a chance at 5. I also think it will be one of the top classes in the country/in the last 6-7 years for us. I think Williams and Little are a very good chance as of now. Things can change once Duke and UK (and others) get involved but it's really a possibility.

I'm also thinking we see a few transfers. Bassett being one. Maybe Allen leaves after next season as well....possibly Hudson. I am really loving the info recruits have been saying about us. We just need that 1 big time recruit to commit and then it's going to take off from there

 

[MertzJay26]

Just from what I have read and watched: Dream class

PG: Weaver
SG:
SF: Little and Moore
PF: Williams
C: Brown

More likely but I think it's possible:

PG:
SG
SF: Little and Moore
PF: Williams
C:

A lot of the class will depend on current commits and players leaving early. I think we take 3 for sure next season and a chance at 5. I also think it will be one of the top classes in the country/in the last 6-7 years for us. I think Williams and Little are a very good chance as of now. Things can change once Duke and UK (and others) get involved but it's really a possibility.

I'm also thinking we see a few transfers. Bassett being one. Maybe Allen leaves after next season as well....possibly Hudson. I am really loving the info recruits have been saying about us. We just need that 1 big time recruit to commit and then it's going to take off from there

Why would Bassett transfer?

 

[LeeForThree]

Why would Bassett transfer?

Numbers/playing time. We usually have 1 in that situation. I think Hayes, Gak, Stone, Stokes, and Johnson will be ahead of him next season. That also doesn't include Egbunu and possibly Robinson if they come back. He might not transfer and be awesome even next year...but with the injury and numbers, I think he may transfer after this season or next

 

[MertzJay26]

Numbers/playing time. We usually have 1 in that situation. I think Hayes, Gak, Stone, Stokes, and Johnson will be ahead of him next season. That also doesn't include Egbunu and possibly Robinson if they come back. He might not transfer and be awesome even next year...but with the injury and numbers, I think he may transfer after this season or next

Gotcha. Not sure how good of a player he is, though I thought I read he's a really good rebounder. That said, can never have too many big bodies!

 

[InstiGATOR1]

I almost said in my post that I do not believe UF really has a tranfer candidate this year. Usually there is someone who might be happy to leave as a graduate transfer or might be a regular transfer candidate. UF does not have anyone in that situation this year.

Lee43 was clearly talking about who might leave after 2017-18. I think there could be an odd man out out of Ballard, Bassett, Johnson and Stone. Then again maybe Ballard is a 2, Johnson a 3, Bassett a 4 and Stone a 5 so there is no position overlap and they all develop into contributors to one degree or another.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

A couple of interesting things I have noticed recently:

1. Very quitely UF's bad loss has disappeared. Vandy had moved into the RPI top 50. It is still a home loss which is not good, but it is not longer a home loss to a team 50-100. I suspect Vandy may stay in the RPI top 50 as they have games left with UF and UK.

2. The SEC's unbalance schedule has worked out this year so that out of the top five conference teams (ie the SEC teams with 5 losses or less today and the only teams with above .500 SEC records today) games against each other are not balanced at all: Here are the schedules of the current top five teams against each other:

UAL: UAR road, UF home, UK home, SoCar road, for a total of 4 games evenly split home and road.
UAR: UAL at home, UF twice, UK road, SoCar road, for a total of 5 games, 3 on the road.
UF: UAL road, UAR twice, UK twice, SoCar twice, for a total of 7 games (out of a possible 8) with a slight majority on the road.
UK: UAL road, UAR home, UF twice, SoCar home, for a total of 5 games, 3 at home.
SoCar: UAL home, UAR home, UF twice, UK road for a total of 5 games, 3 at home.

So it appears UF is playing a good bit tougher SEC schedule than the other teams in the conference.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

I'll be happy making the 2nd weekend after the last two years being so crappy. As of right now, Lunardi has Notre Dame as the 6 seed in our bracket with us as the 3. That's a ridiculously difficult second round matchup.

Well:

Lunardi's 6s are: Creigton, Maryland, Notre Dame and St. Mary's
Palm's 6s are: Maryland, Minnesota, St. Mary's, Virginia

So I think unless you get an upset opposite you, you are going to face tough team in the round of 32. The only advantage of a 3 over a 1 or 2 is the slight chance of that upset. A 1 is assured of playing a tough team in the round of 32.