Patrick Surtain to UF rumor

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    Completely missed the news on Knox. Is it confirmed he's going to be an on-field guy?
     
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    He was ST and RBs there so I see close to know chance he won't be. The question is position group. Honestly, I think that or the Billy hire is what screws us. He already had enough friends for some 2-on-2 basketball so not sure why he needed the 4th buddy.
     
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      lol, that's an embarrassing mistake, but only bc it shows I'm writing the word 'veggie' way too much.
       
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        You crack me up man. I'm not bullish on this hire but you are regular basket of sunshine. Don't ever change; even if he surprises us.

        Edit - My assistant just came in and asked me what was so funny.
         
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        It's all fine Traz, 'cause I recognize your posts as gluten-free.
         
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        I'm not a grammar/spelling nazi. Just thought it was funny.
         
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        ST is a weird spot to hire so there are guys with better looking resumes, but you'd really have to break it down to make an informed decision. My concern with the knox hire has far more to do with us already having seider and billy g so I just don't see how they all fit. I really, really don't want to lose seider, but it's either that or knox doesn't have a position group, which doesn't make sense IMO.

        The ironic thing is that I actually probably get waaayyy less down about Gator football than most. Maybe that's what allows me to be more honest than some. I obviously don't like the hires, but my comments are basically always made while laughing. Not the type to actually get upset over a sport I'm not competing or working in. I'm not cool enough to have an assistant, but I show some of my players posts on boards sometimes that I think are funny.
         
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        Oh no doubt. You wouldn't even get invited to the combine for the league T Rex is playing in. If they ever open the Frustration Hall of Fame, his bust is going sit atop the rotunda.

        Assistants are overrated, I'd take players any day. It's not even PC to ask them to get you coffee anymore and if he messes something up HR doesn't even allow you to make him run suicides.

        Back to Knox - if he's on-field I'm assuming it has to be special teams. Other than loyalty maybe I'm not sure why you take him. Gonzales has been with him everywhere, and that was a given. Seider seems to be both a good recruiter and position coach, so I can't see the logic in bumping him. I'd rather have someone else in the ST spot.
         
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          I wish we could be QBU instead of DBU, DBs win you nothing, see the last 8 years.
           
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          Geez, how desperate are we that we are longing for Zook to return to our program? :(
           
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            Top notch recruiter and a talented special teams guy thats been in the NFL the past number of years......seems real desperate yea :crazy:
             
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              Grad assistant learn more that a pro bowler... must have misread a post or two...

              Hire him! ;)
               
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              ST and recruiting at UF. That's where Zooks always belonged.
               
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                Zook apologist alert

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                  Coley just turned Jimbo down...hes staying put at Ugay
                   
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                    How about both???
                     
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                    I meant in real life. I know people that are pumpers all winter (and probably on boards if they're on) and then get grumpy after every loss.

                    Your ST coach almost always has a position group also, bc of practice structure. Knox isn't actually teaching our kickers anything; he's only been a ST coach for a few years and you'd want a specialist for that anyway. So during position drills, he'd be on Facebook, bc he'd have nothing else to do. Unless you're hiring a true ST coach (that is also their kicking coach) then having someone just for that is a waste. I don't see him anywhere, but wr or rb, but I don't think Billy or seider could move. The only scenario i see that keeps seider is having hevesy run the whole oline (instead of splitting the most difficult group) and moving billy to TEs even though i don't think hes ever done it. Unfortunately, that makes every position weaker except for rb. Do you think msu's amazing special teams is worth that?
                     
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                    Do you think he wasn't very good as a ST coach or recruiter? I don't get the issue if that's the role.
                     
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                      Don't understand all the details, but STs are huuge in my opinion. I think they cost us enormously last year. A large part appears just to be motivation. Urban gave ST members special privileges-- getting to eat first, etc., and he had great special teams.
                       

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