Ray Rice RELEASED from team: New video shows what a real tough guy looks like

t-gator

Founding Member
too sexy for my shirt
Lifetime Member
Jun 13, 2014
15,747
18,144
Founding Member
It will be interesting to see what the market for him is. If he can be had for cheap I'd bet on the patriots. If he's going to be able to get a decent contract I'd bet the Bengals or the raiders .
 

Gator Fever

Founding Member
Senior Member
Jun 13, 2014
25,242
10,084
Founding Member
Gator Fever said:
KCgator;n45967 said:
Rice is clearly guilty of assault. Why wasn't he arrested? New Jersey law does not require the victim to press charges if there is other evidence a crime was committed. Thus a-hole is lucky he isn't locked up and protecting his fart hole right now.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...ore-ravens-arrested-alleged-altercation-woman

He was arrested but if its like FL the state usually wont go to trial without other witnesses if the victim refuses to testify and there is a law (in FL anyway) that says the state can't legally charge a person for refusing to testify in a domestic violence case.
Yep I have seen some pretty bad cases - worse than this Rice one where a guy walked free even when the woman was really hurt bad because they had no evidence except her word that he was the one that did it.
 

T REX

Founding Member
Well-Known Member
Jun 24, 2014
10,107
7,389
Founding Member
t-gator said:
It will be interesting to see what the market for him is. If he can be had for cheap I'd bet on the patriots. If he's going to be able to get a decent contract I'd bet the Bengals or the raiders .
He's suspended indefinitely. He'll never play another down in the NFL. He's f'ed
 

TheDouglas78

Founding Member
Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Jun 12, 2014
16,336
14,798
Founding Member
t-gator said:
It will be interesting to see what the market for him is. If he can be had for cheap I'd bet on the patriots. If he's going to be able to get a decent contract I'd bet the Bengals or the raiders .
Bengals would be my guess out of the two.
 

Jenny On The Railroad

Founding Member
Senior Member
Jun 16, 2014
959
5
Founding Member
oxrageous said:
The Original DC;n45531 said:
It was a terrible thing for Rice to do, of course. But why wouldn't he just pick her up and carry her to the room instead of letting her lay on the dang floor? If anyone asks, "she's drunk, sorry, too much to drink, we're gonna go sleep it off" instead of just letting her lay there. Regardless, it was ignorant and criminal to hit anyone like that, especially a man hitting a woman.
Good question. Rice is certainly strong enough to have just picked her up and carried her back to his room, shrugging it off to anyone who passed as her just having one too many. There would have been no suspicion and the elevator video wouldn't have even been reviewed.
probably still in contempt mode
 

t-gator

Founding Member
too sexy for my shirt
Lifetime Member
Jun 13, 2014
15,747
18,144
Founding Member
t-gator said:
It will be interesting to see what the market for him is. If he can be had for cheap I'd bet on the patriots. If he's going to be able to get a decent contract I'd bet the Bengals or the raiders .
Bull****. He should be done but Tony dungy will become his " mentor" and his suspension will be lifted and teams will be lining up to sign him.
 

AlexDaGator

Founding Member
The Hammer of Thor
Lifetime Member
Jun 19, 2014
12,796
31,996
Founding Member
KCgator said:
Rice is clearly guilty of assault. Why wasn't he arrested? New Jersey law does not require the victim to press charges if there is other evidence a crime was committed. Thus a-hole is lucky he isn't locked up and protecting his fart hole right now.
Good to see you posting here, KC.

Alex.
 

Swampy

Founding Member
Member
Jun 12, 2014
48
14
Founding Member
On Cowherd this morning, Tim Hasselback said that if it is proven that Goodell actually did see this video prior to giving the 2 game suspension and he has lied about it then he absolutely should lose his job. I tend to agree.
 

T REX

Founding Member
Well-Known Member
Jun 24, 2014
10,107
7,389
Founding Member
t-gator said:
It will be interesting to see what the market for him is. If he can be had for cheap I'd bet on the patriots. If he's going to be able to get a decent contract I'd bet the Bengals or the raiders .
F Dungy
 

KCgator

Superhero
Sep 7, 2014
927
624
Swampy;n46012 said:
On Cowherd this morning, Tim Hasselback said that if it is proven that Goodell actually did see this video prior to giving the 2 game suspension and he has lied about it then he absolutely should lose his job. I tend to agree.
Agreed. If it is proven Goodell saw this video prior to his ruling, he needs to go.
 

TheDouglas78

Founding Member
Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Jun 12, 2014
16,336
14,798
Founding Member
t-gator said:
It will be interesting to see what the market for him is. If he can be had for cheap I'd bet on the patriots. If he's going to be able to get a decent contract I'd bet the Bengals or the raiders .
Is what he did worse than Vick, Stallworth, or Leonard Little? He will be back in the league, just a mater when an owner will take a chance on him.
 

TheDouglas78

Founding Member
Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Jun 12, 2014
16,336
14,798
Founding Member
Gator Fever said:
Gatoravatara;n45925 said:
She stayed with him bc of the paycheck. Now that is gone we will see what happens.

He will play somewhere I would think and may even have a case against the NFL if they blackball him after giving him a suspension beforehand. That is really bad however.
t-gator also a dallas fan. Jones loves the backs we have too much.
 

t-gator

Founding Member
too sexy for my shirt
Lifetime Member
Jun 13, 2014
15,747
18,144
Founding Member
Gator Fever said:
Gatoravatara;n45925 said:
She stayed with him bc of the paycheck. Now that is gone we will see what happens.

He will play somewhere I would think and may even have a case against the NFL if they blackball him after giving him a suspension beforehand. That is really bad however.
Yea but you never know what that senile old basterd will do
 

Jenny On The Railroad

Founding Member
Senior Member
Jun 16, 2014
959
5
Founding Member
Haven't viewed the video. saw photo of the 2 at presser on yahoo news. Maybe it was just the shot. However, she has that beaten down ( literally) scared to leave him look. Don't kid yourself. He has most likely threatened to kill her or have her or family killed And every woman has said the emotional abuse is even more damaging to them. You can't assume she is intact enough to actually leave either.

Yes, there usually is a lot of ambivalence, However, I gotta say, just from the still photo, she does not look ambivalent.

I worked at one of the first crisis centers for battered women in the country. Many abusers make death threats. Most will not carry through with them. However, this is not a man, who by all accounts is remorseful.

There were a couple of instance I knew of, in which women had to relocate across the country, or abusers chained their families, or in one case brought the wife to the office with a broken jaw to flaunt his power. I wasn't there that day I am aware of local law enforcement in their small towns forcing women whose children were being abused back to the home, and social services would not intervene because the woman ( who was chained at the time of appt) didn't show for appointments.

Many abusive men ( or women) were abused as children, are carrying internalized rage, low self esteem, insecurity, from various things and explode on the safest people- family., And regret it later, but the pattern continues. Many learned this is acceptable also and don't' respect women.

Some are very mentally disturbed, and some are criminal type enttiled a holes.

There actually are some therapeutic approaches that work for abusers- depending on the specific person and the patterns. One of the early ones that seemed to be working involved learning to be emotionally intimate with men ( not business or sports talk) Key factor in change is acknowledging that it is happening and is unacceptable combined with a desire to stop responding that way. There is a lot of choice involved in abuse, but also for some, some strong physicological prompts that need to be recognized and altered. I include this, because I think it important to realize most abusive people are not merely monsters. Almost all the emotionally or sometimes physically/sexually abused male children that came in were set up to become abusers later. And the stories the women told about their partners life were worse than these kids. It really has generational components. The other surprise for me, was that what often caused the women to leave was discovering the sons were being sexually fondled by their spouse. ( these were women without financial resources mostly, so leaving was a huge step.

I agree spousal and family violence should be labeled assault or battery. Why is it OK to be violent with your family when it is illegal elsewhere? The roots of accepting this go back centuries.

.Sadly the nfl response is reminiscent of the special classification of non action that was given to physical crimes against family as late as the late 70's. It has been discouraging the last year ( winston rape case public and institutional responses and now this) to see how engrained the no big deal attitude is toward "domestic abuse".

OTOH, the culture, and the legal/judicial system have become much more aware and non accepting of family violence compared with the 50s, for instance.

Sorry for the discourse.
 

WobbleGator

Founding Member
Chatterbox Mod
Jun 11, 2014
8,664
2,104
Founding Member
The Original DC;n45825 said:
Incognito, Hernandez, Ray Rice, sounds like a league that doesn't need Tim Tebow to me. Smh.


Don't start that again.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Help Users

You haven't joined any rooms.