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From what I’ve read on this website, I’d get the impression that UF is a liberal communist hellhole. I wonder if people on other school’s forums bash their school and its players as much as UF and its players are bashed on here. Not saying UF or any school are perfect, and criticism is ok, but you’re supposed to love your school even if it’s imperfect.
Does Swamp Gas have as many Gator haters as this site?
Let's just say it has a lot more people like you. I encourage you to check it out. Strongly.
 

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From what I’ve read on this website, I’d get the impression that UF is a liberal communist hellhole. I wonder if people on other school’s forums bash their school and its players as much as UF and its players are bashed on here. Not saying UF or any school are perfect, and criticism is ok, but you’re supposed to love your school even if it’s imperfect.
Does Swamp Gas have as many Gator haters as this site?
Oh we are mild compared to the leghumpers, a$$noles, tenerc and the cocks sites
 

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The NBA will lose money until people realize they can't stomach baseball (a dying sport) for a month straight. The only people that should be genuinely triggered by the protests and boycotts are the people who subconsciously feel some culpability for the status quo.

See this is where I have an issue. You’re a reasonable person, but this becomes very personal. I’m not a Republican. In fact, I’m not a political person at all. But as Divits pointed out, I’m made to feel that if I’m not ok with BLM being shoved down my throat, then I’m the problem, or as you just said, subconsciously culpable. Yes, somehow this all my fault.

Let me share some stats with you. Correct me if I’m wrong, but by my count, since Kennedy’s first term, 60 years ago:

Democrats have controlled the House 46 of 60 years. They've controlled the Senate 40 of 60 years. They’ve basically split the presidency(28/32) with 8 recent years of an AA president, including 8 with a VP who’ll likely grab 80+ % of the vote in November. And basically all of the major cities where police issues and subsequent rioting are taking place have been longstanding Democrat run cities. If you dislike the “status quo” so much, and if things are even nearly as bad as some are claiming, blame these people, not me.

I didn’t propose a breakdown of the family. I didn’t marginalize a certain group into thinking they needed handouts to keep them on a payroll. I didn’t promote a glorification of gangs, drugs and violence and the denigrating of women through movies and music. I didn’t have a hand in creating or allowing any of this toxicity to develop within a culture. So if we’re truly looking to assign blame, maybe start with some self reflection at how we ended up here instead of looking for who you find to be “culpable”.
 
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SoFla you really think vote fraud will be that bad? .... That's the only way Joe gets 80% of the vote.
 

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. The only people that should be genuinely triggered by the protests and boycotts are the people who subconsciously feel some culpability for the status quo.

Would love to hear about that "culpability" and how that works.

:jerkstore:
 

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There's a name for people who sell out their "integrity" and beliefs for money.........:grin:

























Whores. They're called whores.
 

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The NBA has a monopoly on the business of professional basketball and the NFL has a monopoly on the business of professional football. Some of you are speaking as if this is not the case.

Actually since the USFL vs NFL the NFL (1987) hasn't been a monoploy. There have been other leagues in both sports and college sports that can fill the void. Let not forget no where in my post did I say they were going away, which shows how you are answering the arguments you want to answer... not what was actually said.

Moving the goalposts.


People can watch other things, but sports are deeply engrained in American culture.

Were engrained, there is a reason that even before all of these things started all pro sports were losing viewers. Which is something you aren't taking into account, but this is an argument purely made up by you not part of my argument what so ever.

Again you are moving the goalposts.

That's why you're on a sports message board right now. People do not cope well without them. Will we see the same thing in the NFL as we're seeing in the NBA? No. The two leagues function very differently, but it is foolish to pretend that there is a comparable alternative to be found in entertainment under the current circumstances. The NBA will lose money until people realize they can't stomach baseball (a dying sport) for a month straight.

In your opinion.... but as already mentioned they are losing. Also the NBA going away not part of my argument.

As far as alternative, people have been for months, and even are now. You don't think the 43% drop in viewership doesn't show that. I think it is funny you are quickly willing to point out how MLB is bleeding money, but overlook the NBA has been doing the same for years as well... especially when it comes to US viewership. The international markets have been the boon for the NBA.

Moving the goalposts to fit your argument.


The only people that should be genuinely triggered by the protests and boycotts are the people who subconsciously feel some culpability for the status quo.

Has nothing to do with my post, something you are using to try to justify your questionable at best argument. It's also ironic that your whole post is about how the status quo is the key in sports, but then you say something like this which is directly hypocritical.
 

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Does Swamp Gas have as many Gator haters as this site?

Just because people disagree with something, doesn’t make them haters. Period. I can tell you in 2016, in not so many words, Dean Rosenbury basically declared the day after Trump’s election a day of mourning. She created, and this is an actual quote, “comfort couches” so students could sit together and comfort each other because of the fear. I can also tell you from faculty I’ve talked to that she had a speaker at a faculty event that said (and there’s more to this, longer story, but point is) that those who attend church weekly and believe the Bible are the biggest threat to the United States. So forgive people, who can disagree with a heavily leaning one way.

But to the reason I pulled this, Swamp Gas. It has many good people. However, if you step out of line with The Narrative, they will rip you to shreds and/or ban you.

You can find on this site the Truth Takes I wrote about the 2017 Michigan game. The amount of messages I received from that and future posts basically saying it’s a miracle I was allowed to continue to post amazed me. Most weren’t negative toward me, but an observation based on the forums dedication to no criticizing anything UF. People were SHOCKED when I wrote anything insinuating Nuss should be fired mid-season. Some posters even went as far on one of my last Takes there to say that nothing could convince them that Nuss should be let go. The post was literally about what would convince either side of the MacNuss debate (which by A&M when I wrote the damn thing shouldn’t have been a debate) that they were wrong. Point is, no Swamp Gas isn’t as critical (and yes, we can be overly critical here), but that’s because free expression in many ways seems to be discouraged.
 

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Just because people disagree with something, doesn’t make them haters. Period. I can tell you in 2016, in not so many words, Dean Rosenbury basically declared the day after Trump’s election a day of mourning. She created, and this is an actual quote, “comfort couches” so students could sit together and comfort each other because of the fear. I can also tell you from faculty I’ve talked to that she had a speaker at a faculty event that said (and there’s more to this, longer story, but point is) that those who attend church weekly and believe the Bible are the biggest threat to the United States. So forgive people, who can disagree with a heavily leaning one way.

But to the reason I pulled this, Swamp Gas. It has many good people. However, if you step out of line with The Narrative, they will rip you to shreds and/or ban you.

You can find on this site the Truth Takes I wrote about the 2017 Michigan game. The amount of messages I received from that and future posts basically saying it’s a miracle I was allowed to continue to post amazed me. Most weren’t negative toward me, but an observation based on the forums dedication to no criticizing anything UF. People were SHOCKED when I wrote anything insinuating Nuss should be fired mid-season. Some posters even went as far on one of my last Takes there to say that nothing could convince them that Nuss should be let go. The post was literally about what would convince either side of the MacNuss debate (which by A&M when I wrote the damn thing shouldn’t have been a debate) that they were wrong. Point is, no Swamp Gas isn’t as critical (and yes, we can be overly critical here), but that’s because free expression in many ways seems to be discouraged.

Thoughtful post, but I'm trying to point out the difference between the Gator sports teams and the actual university.

For all of time, people are going to be critical of their sports teams/coaches/players, which is fine. When I criticize, it's mainly the coaches, even though Driskel and Franks were too tempting of targets even for me.

Unless UF screwed you out of money, gave you substandard education, or was the place of a traumatic experience, then you should never hate the school (disagreeing with its policies is one thing, despising it as a liberal hellhole is something else).

So to put it simply-
Gator hater of sports - ok
Gator hater of the UF institution - not ok

Regarding Swamp Gas, I've looked at it and read a few posts. Ox is begging me to leave and join that website, but I gotta keep annoying him here as the token liberal/Democrat.
 

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According to Hoyle:

Gator hater of sports - ok
Gator hater of the UF institution - not ok.

I think I will keep my God given rights to say whatever the hell I like whenever the hell I like. Tough concept, I know.
 

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You just renewed my faith In America.
I’m humbled , thank you.

Any chance you could speak to our team?
Sounds like a joke but someone with your experiences and obvious compassion and love for our country could make a huge difference in the narrative That’s being pressed into young minds.

Awesome post

Thank you sir.
Honestly that’s so humbling thank you for your kind words. I can’t imagine anyone would actually be interested in giving up 5 min of their life to hear anything I have to say with so much going on, but I really do hope to encourage anyone that I can to believe in the goodness of America.
 

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See this is where I have an issue. You’re a reasonable person, but this becomes very personal. I’m not a Republican. In fact, I’m not a political person at all. But as Divits pointed out, I’m made to feel that if I’m not ok with BLM being shoved down my throat, then I’m the problem, or as you just said, subconsciously culpable. Yes, somehow this all my fault.

Let me share some stats with you. Correct me if I’m wrong, but by my count, since Kennedy’s first term, 60 years ago:

Democrats have controlled the House 46 of 60 years. They've controlled the Senate 40 of 60 years. They’ve basically split the presidency(28/32) with 8 recent years of an AA president, including 8 with a VP who’ll likely grab 80+ % of the vote in November. And basically all of the major cities where police issues and subsequent rioting are taking place have been longstanding Democrat run cities. If you dislike the “status quo” so much, and if things are even nearly as bad as some are claiming, blame these people, not me.

I didn’t propose a breakdown of the family. I didn’t marginalize a certain group into thinking they needed handouts to keep them on a payroll. I didn’t promote a glorification of gangs, drugs and violence and the denigrating of women through movies and music. I didn’t have a hand in creating or allowing any of this toxicity to develop within a culture. So if we’re truly looking to assign blame, maybe start with some self reflection at how we ended up here instead of looking for who you find to be “culpable”.
Fuchsing a!
 

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So to put it simply-
Gator hater of sports - ok
Gator hater of the UF institution - not ok.
When you say “hater” do you mean the word in classic sense or do you mean it as one criticizing?
I am assuming it must be the latter, because other than the occasional troll from another fan base, I don’t see actual “hate” per se.
I am one of the few non UF grads here and I rarely have any comments other than positive ones (besides, one, happy wife, happy life, so I’m not going to bad mouth her alma mater; two, my son has been well taken care of by UF), but were it where I went I’d feel the right to criticize the school if I thought it was going down the wrong path. Some of the harshest critics here are folks I happen to know love their school and are very proud to be alums.


Regarding Swamp Gas, I've looked at it and read a few posts. Ox is begging me to leave and join that website, but I gotta keep annoying him here as the token liberal/Democrat.
This is (intentionally or not) actually a compliment to GCMB. Even if Ox were serious, he wouldn’t force the issue by banning you. I know I’ve personally annoyed him on several occasions, and yet, I’m still here. (There is a possibility he’s kept me around as a thank you for being the only person to actually listen to his podcasts last fall.)
 

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