SOURCES: Coaching rumors Part V

[TheDouglas78]

Its time for facility upgrades and big money tier 1 Coach. Bite the bullet Foley, pay to play!

We offered a coach top 10 money, wouldn't that be tier 1 money?

 

[TheDouglas78]

If Foley can pull a Stoops or Chip, or someone that blows us away then I will eat my words. But if we end up getting a third tier and he brags about how we got him on the cheap, then this will impress no one-recruits included. We can sugarcoat it all we want, but what is left is the third tier. During normal times we could not even be considering these people, let alone calling them. That is like dating a woman that you are unattracted to convincing yourself that in right light she looks awesome. CSU, lost to every mediocre team on its weak cupcake schedule, Air Force and Boise State. They beast Utah State by 3 pts and Nevada and San Jose State by a TD. This is most unimpressive to me.

Not arguing that point, just saying it is way too early for us to being getting on the ledge and assuming candidates. At least two conferences haven't finished there regular seasons, and a few Championship Games need to happen. Saturday has a few possible candidates that we have to wait until they are done before we can really know who is targeted and not. Losing a guy like Freeze, means only that we didn't get Freeze at this point.

 

[GatorStompin']

Paging Slevin, paging Slevin... He made an excellent post and point over on 24/7, offering up some "perspective" on coaching hires and searches. If he hasn't tried to make the point here, he needs to. If he has, he needs to again.

Basically you can look at all the great coaches across the nation, the "top tier" guys we're talking about, they all came from a mid-level school to the big leagues. Other than Saban, Meyer, and Spurrier, no coaches at elite jobs made lateral moves from one big-time program to another. And obviously, all the big names started small before they got their raise and really earned their prestige.

The point being, it's ok to get a proven head coach from the mid-level, it's even the norm. Mans actually, more than anything, we need someone that 1) knows offense and 2) is hungry to establish themselves as an elite coach.

If we get Stoops, I won't be complaining. I'll love it and have all the high hopes in the world. But, it might be in our best interest not to get a coach who's "burnt out" after 16 years at OU. As long as we can establish the offense and get that part of the ball firing on all cylinders again, we don't need the heavy weights. We have everything else necessary--the decensive personnel, the game atmosphere, the tradition, the fans, the university, the funds, the recruiting base--to be the best again, and make a mid-level guy, "the guy". We've done it before and so have most prestigious football programs across the country.

 

[gatormandan]

Most people here said Freeze was not their first choice. Me included. I think they will surprise us with someone really good. Its early yet.

 

[cornbread]

we need to forfeit all games next year, there isn't going to be a coach hired because it has been three days since the season ended, way to long for a coaching search

 

[Gator Fever]

Most people here said Freeze was not their first choice. Me included. I think they will surprise us with someone really good. Its early yet.

I can live with whoever is hired but I just done see us getting a big name now unless he changes his tune on a Rich Rod type. It looks like Stoops wasn't interested and Freeze turned us down. I just don't see Briles, Patterson, Kelly, Harbaugh or anyone like that leaving to come here now.

 

[-THE DUDE-]

Most people here said Freeze was not their first choice. Me included. I think they will surprise us with someone really good. Its early yet.

I have serious doubts we even offered freeze...

 

[GatorBenji]

we need to forfeit all games next year, there isn't going to be a coach hired because it has been three days since the season ended, way to long for a coaching search

Lol yeah seriously. It's way too early for the overreactions like I've seen from some

 

[GatorTAG]

I almost get the feeling Foley is floating names out there to see the response from the media and message boards so he'll know if he's making the right choice.

 

[kepler]

It's rough around here. I like McElwain, I think he would be a good hire, but his buyout really seems like it will be a problem. Do we really see Florida paying over $13 million to make a coaching change? Hard to believe.

 

[Gator98MD]

So, realistically who do we think its going to be now? Hudspeth seems to fit the Slevin theory. Mcelwain just doesnt blow my skirt up

 

[ATXGator]

I am just listing all of the options. I dont blame him for staying. I am not bitter about this. I am wondering about Foley, however.

Apparently Foley offered 4.2 or 4.3 million and Ole Miss came with 4 and raises for assistants... what more do you want Foley to do on this... offer 5...6...? How much should he offer Freeze... is it at all possible to you that Freeze wasn't going to come at all if Ole Miss paid him... that he wants to stay there and build something?

 

[TheDouglas78]

It's rough around here. I like McElwain, I think he would be a good hire, but his buyout really seems like it will be a problem. Do we really see Florida paying over $13 million to make a coaching change? Hard to believe.

Buyout might not be as big of an issue, due to CSU apparently didn't fulfill some of the things they were contracted to do as well.

 

[Gator Fever]

So, realistically who do we think its going to be now? Hudspeth seems to fit the Slevin theory. Mcelwain just doesnt blow my skirt up

Hard to say but my guess would be someone like Hudspeth or Holliday. I think the real big names are mostly off the table now.

 

[The Original DC]

Phone conversation between Foley and Bob Stoops, leaked by DCMZ, here's the transcript:

Foley: Bobby, I know you said you were interested but you wanted to wait until after your final game to have serious discussions. I'm fine with that, but just a heads-up, we're going to be vetting Jim McElwain, Hugh Freeze and Josh McDaniels. I'd be irresponsible if I didn't have a plan B, sir. Any reports that we've offered anyone else are not true, you are our only guy. Looking forward to talking to you Sunday, good luck in your game.

Stoops: I understand, we'll talk soon, Go Gators!

 

[G8RNGA]

Phone conversation between Foley and Bob Stoops, leaked by DCMZ, here's the transcript:

Foley: Bobby, I know you said you were interested but you wanted to wait until after your final game to have serious discussions. I'm fine with that, but just a heads-up, we're going to be vetting Jim McElwain, Hugh Freeze and Josh McDaniels. I'd be irresponsible if I didn't have a plan B, sir. Any reports that we've offered anyone else are not true, you are our only guy. Looking forward to talking to you Sunday, good luck in your game.

Stoops: I understand, we'll talk soon, Go Gators!

We can dream, right?!

 

[WobbleGator]

Hard to say but my guess would be someone like Hudspeth or Holliday. I think the real big names are mostly off the table now.

Freeze stays at Ole Miss and that means all the big names are off the table? :headscratch: