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Total waste of a year. Biggest mistake since that top ranked RB chose Colorado for no apparent reason years ago. How ironic that he’s rumored to be following Sanders to the same place.
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Total waste of a year. Biggest mistake since that top ranked RB chose Colorado for no apparent reason years ago. How ironic that he’s rumored to be following Sanders to the same place.
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Probably had the best tackle of our 2020 season where he destroyed the uga RB. Think he’d been burned on the opening play, so maybe wanted revenge. I’m shocked he’s having this much success. Did not see that. Good for him.
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Think there is some truth to a little bit of all this. I understand Billy was dealt a $hit hand when he came in. However, he was given all his demands and has the biggest recruiting staff in the country. I don't see how our administration can be the issue if we were able to flip rashada back to us. If we outbid Miami for him, it had to be a considerable amount of money. If we have that much to throw at him, how can we not muster it up for a couple of other big needs? Personally I'm not willing to put the majority of the blame on Admin. Also, I understand Miami is throwing supposedly large sums of money around, but how many recruits do you all honestly think Billy would have beat Mario out for if NIL wasn't around? Be honest and try to put the hate for them aside. Same thing when it comes to Walker. How many of you think Kirby or Saban would have lost a head to head battle with UCF if they really wanted him?
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Ohio State did. He committed to UCF over Ryan Day. Who many consider the best recruiter in the country.
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Don’t forget Rashada flipped right after cristobal sent his QB back in the game when it was obvious he wasn’t in any shape to “tough it out.”
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As a recruiter? Yeah.
As a runner of a program? No. Kirby and Saban have more complete recruiters on staff. But when Day wants a recruit and is the main recruiter he can compete with both.
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Ran across this tweet. Let that soak in for a minute. Right now we're in a perfect storm. Gonna take a TON of work to correct this shyt storm. I can understand some criticism that Billy needs to fix and hopefully that will happen.
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Point taken but don't forget he was a lock to us according to most recruiting sites and Mario pulled the rug out from us on decision day. Kudos for Billy to get him back, now we have to get him on campus. My gripe is the part of the fan base that is putting all the blame on NIL. They say NIL is being hamstrung by the admin, which I could see to a certain percentage. But if that's the case, how do we explain getting Rashada back because we had to fork out some money to get him here even with Mario's incompetence on the field. You're telling me that the University of Florida is having to take the "Money Ball" approach to NIL? I mean if we are, good strategy by the staff because if you can hit on a game changing QB, he can cover up a lot of bad. See AR at his peak for example, but we should never have to SETTLE. Napier needs to put extreme pressure on the admin if this is the case.
@GatorJ I respect your opinion, I just have a different one. I think Kirby and Saban are on a different level and then its everybody else.
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I think the big thing with NIL is the collective is that money gets spread to every athlete across UF athletics whereas Miami has a booster just targeting football players for them. Would not shock me to learn that we couldn't pay for a OT because we had they sent that money to women's badmitten.
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Here's my two bits on people/boosters ponying up NIL money, and I'm just spit ballin' here based on the types of "money people" my daughter has interacted with over the last two years in the Presidential Suite at BHG (and that's every game, and she is the student Chairperson for hosting, so she walks around and talks to the people, not standing behind a counter handing out drinks):
- Granted, this is the President's box, not the sloppy drunk rich boosters. This is by invite only and all are people who give a minimum of $100K+ (no less than that amount). This is where the real power is, it's not in the sloppy drunk rich boosters box(es).
- That said, many of the sloppy drunk rich boosters are allowed to come in during the game for a few minutes.
- Whether they are the $100K+ people or the sloppy drunk rich boosters from the box next door, 99% of them are Conservatives (sorry for the politics, but it's important), and almost all of them are self-made guzzilionaires.
- These type of guys are tight with their money. The calculate and expect an ROI or a tax benefit. To be fair, not all "guys," the richest woman in South Carolina is one of them.
- These type of guys have their names on buildings at UF, and not just sports related buildings, but entire colleges and departments within colleges.
- Most of them truly bleed Orange & Blue, and are generational Gators, but they aren't into pissing their money away on "one off's" with incalculable returns. These are guys who see business in cycles that last 30 years and understand big ups and downs in the "market".
- So I don't think many of these guys are bought into the NIL thing... they see it as playing the lottery/Powerball and HOPING you win big, not as an investment. They'll pony up HUGE money for FOUNDATIONAL things, but not for an unproven "brick" that may be a bust or leave UF altogether.
- I suspect the big money people at places like Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, and maybe even Georgia (yes, I said Georgia) are more in the same mold than most would think.
- I think the big money equivalents for a school like Miami are completely different than what I outlined above.
- There is NO ONE in the President's box at UF like a "Ruiz" and I suspect Miami has several "Ruiz's." I don't think Ruiz gives a single fuk about "da U", it's advertising/marketing for him in his market space (and that market space is what, 10-20x the size of Gainesville?).
- We have Hugh Hathcock... and I'm guessing even he will get tired of buying Powerball tickets every time there is a $1B prize player potential jackpot.
- To compete in NIL (if we're going to play that game), you will need several Hugh Hathcock's to coordinate closely with each other, the recruiting staff, and the collective (and I have no idea what's even allowed by law or otherwise in that department) and run what would effectively be an "NFL draft analysis" every cycle, in real time... that takes even more time and money.
- Add to that, there is NO REAL RETURN ON INVESTMENT for ponying up NIL money other than winning not just football games, but CHAMPIONSHIPS... giving up hard earned money for NIL is gambling, period. At best, it's the worst case of "calculated risk" known to man.
- You have to be willing to piss away millions of dollars, every year, to play this new game.
- What a schit show.
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